Monday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while Craig T. Nelson takes you to the top.
This morning we're 75 days away from pitchers and catchers reporting to Maryvale and spring training tickets are on sale. With that said, for the next few days the center of the baseball universe will be the Hilton Anatole Hotel in Dallas (pictured here), where baseball's annual Winter Meetings kick off today. Rob Neyer is in attendance for the first time, but might be missing the point. Tom Haudricourt talked to Doug Melvin about his preparation for the event.
Even before Brewer representatives arrived in Dallas, though, we had the meetings' first major rumor. Word is circulating that the Brewers may have offered a three year deal with a club option for a fourth to former Cubs third baseman Aramis Ramirez (FanShot). However, it seems unlikely they're the high bidder at this point: Ramirez's agent said they're "getting serious" with four teams, and the Phillies appear to be one of them. The Tigers are also expected to meet with him this week.
I'm really hoping one of those teams produces a better offer, because I'll be strongly disappointed if the Brewers give a long term deal to Ramirez. He's 33 years old and one year removed from a season that was only a little better than Casey McGehee's 2011 campaign. If the Brewers have that kind of money available, there are better places for them to spend it. With that said, View From Bernie's Chalet has Ramirez playing third and batting cleanup in their hopeful 2012 Opening Day roster. Keep Turning Up the Heat! is closer to my side.
However, the Brewers probably can't go into 2012 counting on a bounce-back season from Casey McGehee. Nick Prill of The Brewers Bar has a look at several other players who had sudden and precipitous drops like he did, and the results aren't pretty.
I'm sure there will be plenty of Prince Fielder notes from Dallas this week. Here are today's installments:
- CBSCleveland.com reports Fielder has narrowed his options down to three teams, with Toronto the leading candidate and the Rangers and Brewers in contention.
- With that said, Blue Jays GM Alex Anthopolous denied the report.
- Orioles GM Dan Duquette says his team is interested in Fielder. (h/t @JesseGennigen)
- Danny Knobler of CBS Sports says the Brewers are finally showing some optimism regarding Fielder.
- Mark J. Miller of Yahoo reports some expect Fielder to sign with "a team east of the Mississippi that will contend in 2012."
- Jon Heyman still lists six teams as possibilities.
- The Nationals have once again confirmed their lack of interest.
Elsewhere in free agent notes: David Fung of Beyond the Box Score has a graphic showing how the Brewers could replace the runs they're losing this offseason via free agency (FanShot).
Jimmy Rollins is one of the players on that graphic. MLB Depth Charts wonders if the Brewers should make him a priority.
Meanwhile, could a trade actually help the Brewers more? Jon Heyman tweeted this morning that the Astros are willing to eat most of the money due in the remaining season on Carlos Lee's contract if a team will take him off their hands. He could be an interesting stopgap solution for a year at first base, and the .275/.342/.446 batting line he posted for Houston last season would fit nicely in the lineup.
Elsewhere in market speculation, MLB Trade Rumors is reporting that the Brewers are interested in former Cardinals reliever Octavio Dotel. He's already 38 and has received a one year offer to return to St. Louis, so the Brewers would probably have to offer two years to get him. Pass. With that said, Jon Heyman says few teams want bullpen help more than the Brewers and Padres.
And, of course, the Brewers still need to figure out what they're doing at shortstop. @GiantsNirvana compiled a list of things Yuniesky Betancourt does well.
Francisco Rodriguez, Prince Fielder and all other rated free agents have until Wednesday at midnight to accept or decline arbitration offers from their former teams. MLB Trade Rumors reports the Mets have contacted K-Rod about a possible reunion.
- 2011 second round pick Jorge Lopez made his winter league debut yesterday, allowing a run on two hits and four walks over 1.1 innings in Mayaguez's 5-3, 14 inning loss to Ponce in Puerto Rican play. You can read about that and more in today's Winter League Notes.
- We also haven't spent much time talking about it, but Frankie De La Cruz is having a really rough winter in the Dominican Republic. He was knocked around again on Saturday and carries an ERA over eight through five appearances.
- Nashville pitching coach Chris Bosio told the Appleton Post Crescent over the weekend that he's the Cubs' new pitching coach. He'll join former Brewers Dale Sveum, Jamie Quirk and Pat Listach on that staff.
- @Mass_Haas directed our attention to this 2009 story from the Spokane Spokesman-Review about recent free agent signee Miguel Velasquez and his troubled past. As he notes in the tweet, there must be more to the story because Velasquez also missed the 2011 season.
- Last year I sat down with the schedules before the season and bought tickets for eleven Timber Rattlers games that I could go see without missing the Brewers. This season there appears likely to be 25 such games.
This is what happens when we don't have enough news to discuss: Miller Park Drunk has a point-counterpoint on Remetee.
If you weren't around this weekend, you might have missed Noah's look at Doug Melvin's history at the Winter Meetings. There are some great names in there I'd completely forgotten. And Adam McCalvy remembers that the last time the meetings were in Dallas the Brewers traded Lyle Overbay to make room for Prince Fielder.
Around baseball:
Angels: Acquired pitcher Brad Mills from the Blue Jays for catcher Jeff Mathis.
Astros: Signed infielder Diory Hernandez to a minor league deal.
Cardinals: Hired John Mabry as their new assistant hitting coach.
Dodgers: Signed pitcher Chris Capuano to a two year, $10 million deal.
Indians: Signed catcher Matt Pagnozzi to a minor league deal.
Mariners: Signed outfielder Darren Ford to a minor league deal.
Marlins: Signed shortstop Jose Reyes to a six year, $106 million deal (FanShot).
Phillies: Signed outfielder Laynce Nix to a two year deal.
One of this week's final events from Dallas will be Thursday's Rule 5 Draft. Bucs Dugout has a great look at 28 players left unprotected, including former Brewer prospects Erik Komatsu and Rob Bryson. Ben Badler of Baseball America also tweeted brief scouting reports on Angels pitcher Steve Geltz and Indians pitcher Elvis Araujo.
While the baseball world focuses on Dallas this week, across the ocean another interesting storyline is brewing. The bidding for negotiating rights with Japanese shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima has concluded, and it appears the Rays might have been the only team who participated.
Today in baseball economics: The new CBA is taking a lot of criticism, but it looks like the Yankees might be using it as a reason to cut payroll before 2014. If that happens, the new deal has to be considered at least a partial success.
It still appears somewhat inevitable that Major League Baseball will expand their playoff system to include a second Wild Card, but the timing is still up in the air. Jayson Stark has a list of reasons it might not happen in 2012.
Here's something else that might not happen in 2012: Home runs in the Marlins new ballpark. FishStripes has a graphic showing that the new facility is actually larger than Petco Park in San Diego.
Today in former Brewers:
- Bill Hall is on Twitter. (h/t @NicoleHaase)
- adarowski of Beyond the Box Score has an interactive 2012 Hall of Fame ballot for your consideration. It's not exceptionally kind to Jeromy Burnitz or Eric Young.
- 1988-90 Brewer Tom Filer will be the Pirates' AAA pitching coach in 2012.
This morning's edition of Today in Brewer History celebrates what would have been the birthday of Beaver Dam native and 1901 Brewer Pink Hawley. Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times notes that today is also the anniversary of the Brewers selecting Ned Yost from the Mets in the 1977 Rule 5 Draft, and that it's been 9000 days since Juan Nieves' no-hitter.
In the link above, Jaffe also notes that it's been 25 years since the Illinois legislature "stopped the clock" to get extra time to pass a bill that funded a new stadium for the White Sox and prevented them from moving to St. Petersburg. You know all about that if you've been reading The Extra 2% as part of the BCB Book Club. Here's a reminder to read chapters 4-6 and meet back here tomorrow night to discuss them.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I must report the facts.
Drink up.
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Don't know anything about this guy, but he's twittering from the winter meetings
DKnobler:
Brewers are in on everyone at several positions (including SS, 3B), not down road at all on any of them [via Twitter]
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Dec 5, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions
Yeah, that's Danny Knobler.
He’s quoted in the Mug frequently, including today.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
A team east of the Mississippi that will contend in 2012...
So…the Brewers?
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Dec 5, 2011 12:38 PM CST reply actions
That gives me an idea for a Sporcle quiz (though I'm not too interested in actually putting this one together)
Can you name all 12 MLB franchises west of the Mississippi River in 1 minute?
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...and I already screwed it up
Should be 13, not 12.
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I don't know that it's too difficult.
There are nine (soon to be ten) teams from the West divisions, and the other three or four are pretty easy to pick out from the central divisions.
That's the main reason why I'm not too interested in actually putting it together.
The biggest challenge is if you can recall all of them and type them out in under a minute. There will be more people failing the quiz due to slow typing than being unable to think of all of them.
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Here's one that will make you think
Can you name the MLB teams in order by latitude from north to south?
(I think there is a Sporcle quiz out there for this, but if not, I will be making it tonight.)
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I think that doing the NFL is a little harder than MLB
If just because of the North/South divisions plus one or two teams in divisions that have nothing to do with geography
I'm going to do some kind of Sporcle quiz tonight.
I have a few ideas, maybe something more directly involving the Brewers.
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Here's one for everyone
from the Bill James Gold Mine 2008 (yeah, so I read out-of-date baseball statistics books during the off-season. So what?):
Apart from Barry Bonds in 1999 who is the only other player since 1900 to have scored 85 runs in a season despite having less than 100 hits?
I’m guessing that no-one has done it since 2008 but haven’t checked.
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Congratulations
You win a concept
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
Yep, the answer's Rickie
Was part of an article suggesting Weeks as a break-out candidate for 2008…
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I made the Mug! Beer for everyone!
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That article on the Bucs Dugout
Is waaaaay more in depth than I was expecting. I think I might need to set aside a bit of time before reading it.
What about not spending any money?
As I noted in the replacing Fielder thread, the Brewers won more games than they “needed” to last year. If they expand to 2 wild card teams, 90 wins should almost definitely make the play-in game. Losing Fielder won’t cost the Brewers 6 wins no matter how good he was. If Gamel and Green give the Brewers practically anything then all they need to do is shore up the bullpen and they’ll make the playoffs again.
There doesn’t appear to be any value in the FA market this year at position the Brewers need help on. I say save the money for an overpriced midseason move and call it good.
We don't have a shortstop.
Is this a vote for Yuni?
Not sure that there will be a 2nd wildcard team for 2012
Unless they can tweak the schedule as Jayson Stark’s column that Kyle linked to above notes
Also this year there are now 2 free agent SS left who could be a big improvement. Next year’s FA class for SS is nothing to get excited about
by Saltire on Dec 5, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Your not factoring in regression (or improvement) or 3rd order wpct
I figure that as of right now, the Brewers are a 84 win true talent team (without any moves having been made yet). Thats startng at a 92 win base, taking out Fielder, regressing Morgan, Braun, Axford, Loe Narveson and adding in improvement for Greinke, Gallardo, Marcum, McGehee…..
You are right though about the 2nd WC if it happens, they are contenders right now, but probably need to improve in at least one spot to get more of a chance. The Cards will have Wainwright back, and probably Pujols, Reds shoudl revert to norm, Giants, Nats, Braves, even Marlins might even contend next year.
So given that Prince is a five-win player
That means that you think that Morgan, Braun, Axford, Loe, and Narveson are going to regress three whole wins more than Greinke, Gallardo, Marcum, and McGehee are going to improve? Given that Greinke had one of the most flukishly unlucky seasons by a pitcher in recent history, I find that hard to believe.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Braun and Morgan alone
Probably lose as much combined as Fielder did.
The upgrades for Greinke, Marcum and Gallardo are all half game apiece probably, and Braun at 7.8? Even a 5.8 is an elite year, and Morgan from 4 to 2 …Thats 4 games right there. Forgot about Hart too, he’s probably a whole win…..
Kick Almonte, Nieves, and Felipe off the team, and we pick up 1.5 wins.
Give Weeks another 100+ ABs, there’s another 0.5-1.0 win.
This is fun!
Fair enough
I guess it depends on whether you’re using Fangraphs or B-Ref WAR to determine your projections. Because Greinke’s B-Ref WAR was 1.7, and I would expect more than a half-win improvement over that from him next year.
As for Hart, he’s put up an almost identical line the past two years. I could see some regression, but I’m not sure why you would expect a win less than that next year, especially since he only played in 130 games in 2011.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Right
But in terms of the actual practical results for his team, his Fangraphs WAR is much more of a measurement of how well he should have produced (i.e. how well he should have done with average luck on balls in play), while B-Ref measures how well he actually produced. The reason there’s such a huge gap between his Fangraphs and B-Ref WAR is precisely because he was so insanely unlucky.
In other words, if he puts up a 4.6 Fangraphs WAR next year, average luck would dictate that he puts up something around 4 to 4.5 B-Ref WAR, which would be a 2.5-win improvement.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 2:30 PM CST up reply actions
By the same right
we know that Greinke was throwing some meatballs with his fastball, because he tries to avoid walks a little too much. We don’t understand all of the factors that go into statistics, but there’s some anecdotal evidence as to why there was a discrepancy between Grienke’s advanced stats and his observed stats this year.
Or he was just incredibly unlucky.
Absolutely true
My point was mainly that if Greinke’s Fangraphs WAR actually improves next year as btc projects, he will probably have a massive improvement in the actual number of runs he allows.
I think Greinke’s 2011 was some unknown mixture between bad luck and the meatball factor – I guess we’ll find out more about how much of each next year.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
As per usual
BTC’s predictions are risible. It is fairly common knowledge among anyone who has the slightest clue about baseball that Greinke’s WAR next year will be exactly 4.7.
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Are you taking into account Fielder's replacement?
If they can get even 1 win out of Gamel or whoever they sign there, that’s more production they don’t need to replace.
Also, Braun has gotten better with every year he’s been in the league. I don’t necessarily expect him to put up the same numbers next year, but it’s not a foregone conclusion that his production will drop. For all we know, during his prime this last season very well could be his “true” talent level. Pujols has been consistently great as has Bautista the last two years. I wouldn’t count Braun out on repeating his 2011 campaign.
Did you just cut and past last year's projection?
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 5, 2011 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
If Loe regresses...
… he’s probably not on the team by June. I can see regressions for Morgan, depending on how he’s used, and Braun’s regression from the obvious MVP of the league is almost inevitable. :)
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 5, 2011 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
What about Bonifacio?
Is there any way the Marlins would trade him now that they’ve signed Reyes or is Bonifacio too valuable as a Utility-man? His WAR last year was 2.4, a far cry ahead of Betancourt’s .7. Rollins is 3.7 – clearly better and Bonifacio seems to be average at best on defense. Still, Bonifacio is pretty young and much much cheaper. What would it take to land him? Randy Wolf? I’d hate to lose a part of our rotation but I think right now we can think past this year. We have the core to be good for a while if we make the right moves. Wolf’s value is probably the highest it will ever be. We would save a substantial amount of money by trading his (9 million?) for the 500,000 or so that we’d pay to Peralta/Estrada/whoever and we’d still have a great rotation. Plus we’d save a bunch of money at shortstop. Money we could put into the bullpen as well as signing grienke/marcum long term. This wouldn’t be a bad lineup at all
1. Bonifacio (.296/.360/.393 with 40 steals last year!)
2. Morgan/Gomez
3. Braun
4. Weeks
5. Hart
6. Gamel
7. Green/McGhee
8. Lucroy
We could also then re-sign Hairston for a utility-man. This is a good lineup. Obviously it lacks the punch in the middle of last year but it is more consistent. This is a lineup that can wear down a starting pitcher. It has potential to be a BETTER lineup than last year because of that. This would also likely improve our team defense. Especially if Green wins out at third. We still wouldn’t be great on defense but Bonifacio is a big improvement over betancourt and Gamel may be an improvement on fielder – there are conflicting views on this I know.
This is a lineup/rotation that would be consistent for the forseeable future – wouldn’t that give us a better shot than going all in for one year? Plus we’d have some money potentially to make a push at some point.
Brewers dont have a lot to trade with any value
Best options are probably Greinke and Marcum, and they arent going anywhere.
Bonifacio is cost controlled for 3 more years I believe and most likely winds up playing the super sub role with the Marlins who are probably looking to compete next year with the Reyes signing and a healthy Josh Johnson.
You’re probably buying high no him at this point as well.
Objection, relevance.
Melvin’s not going to trade a starter.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 5, 2011 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
Bonifacio looks like a classic buy-high candidate to me, too.
OPS+ the last five years:
53
67
61
74
107
Yikes.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
I crunched a few numbers to guess what kind of numbers this lineup might put out
I took Gamel and Green’s career Minor League numbers and dropped each (BA/OBP/SLG) by 20 points – like i said just a guess. that would equal a lineup with upwards of .270/.350/.450 150 homeruns and a team OPS higher than .800!
Gonna have to drop each of those by a lot more than 20 points.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
maybe, but i wouldn't be surprised to see these kinds of lines from those two
Green – .271/.353/.438
Gamel – .284/.356/.478
We know they are both capable of hitting. they might be somewhat inconsistent but those numbers from them really don’t seem that far-fetched to they?
I think those are pretty lofty numbers for both guys
Particularly Gamel. You’re basically saying that Gamel will have a better season than Weeks did in 2010.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
this might not mean much but here's a little bit of reference
Weeks career minors numbers – .289/.404/.493 career majors – .255/.354/.435
Hart’s Minors – .299/.357/.499 – Majors – .277/.334/.487
Braun’s Minors – .313/.375/.572 – Majors – .312/.371/.563
Interesting that Weeks dropped off by around .40 in each category, hart by about .20 and Braun is basically the same – of course these are their career numbers, not their first year numbers but this might give some range for what to expect – anywhere from 40 points lower to about the same (though Braun is certainly an exceptional case)
It's not really an apples-to-apples comparison
You’re forgetting about age. Weeks, Hart, and Braun were all young for their levels through the minors, while Gamel and Green are both older.
For example, Weeks put up a .320/.435/.655 line in Nashville at age 22, and Gamel put up a .310/.372/.540 line there last year at age 25. There is a massive difference in the long-term Major League projectability of those two sets of numbers.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
In theory, yes
But it also means there’s much less of an upside to his projected numbers, since we can’t expect Gamel to improve as much as he goes along.
by Cheeseandcorn on Dec 5, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
Let me try this again since this is the right post
I find it hard to believe that a guy like Prince who is all about the money
Would want to play in Canada and pay Canadian taxes on half of his pay checks but I guess is they pull enough dump trucks full of money in front of your house you go anywhere :)
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Of all the places Prince could end up besides Milwaukee, I'd most like to see him go to Toronto...
by DudeBrewzWI on Dec 5, 2011 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
agreeded
Plus Prince would have to suffer getting to that downtown stadium every day lol.
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
More than half of all baseball stadiums are downtown
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Seattle for me.
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by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 5, 2011 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
At this point
Fielder is just choosing which dump truck full of money looks the nicest to him.
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In other words
Do you want the smaller shiny dump truck, the medium dull dump truck, or the massive rusted dump truck?
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by -JP- on Dec 5, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like making a comment about balls being hit and creating holes through the rust of the dump truck.
I don’t know what the best way to word that would be, or if it would be appropriate.
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The truck also has difficulty moving to its right.
The driver has to compensate by driving in the other lane occasionally.
Crasnick is taunting us
Saying on Twitter that, according a source close to him, Prince “isn’t chasing the money.” Jaymes pointed out that’s pretty much the only reason Milwaukee’s still involved. Hopefully that “source” wasn’t Cecil.
Not chasing money?
Then there’s another reason he didn’t take the 5 yr/$100M offer the Brewers gave him a short while back?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Prince may not be....
… but Boras is. And Boras is a genius as persuading his players that the team that is offering the most money also just happens to be the perfect fit for the player anyway.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 5, 2011 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Phillies = New Yankees
They have spent just as much, if not more than New York in the last couple years. They’ve already gone way too high for Papelbon, and they’re probably going to do the same for Rollins and Ramirez.
Amazing.
by cwolf20 on Dec 5, 2011 1:51 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think part of that is down to the success that they have had the last few years
And the fact that they have been getting 40000+ crowds the last few years. Indeed last year they topped the majors in attendance with over 45K per game
And the Yankees figured out they don't have to spend so much to be competitive
Making the playoffs by 6 wins costs more than making the playoffs by 2 wins, but the end result is the same. New ownership, new philosophy. The Yankees are now as much about business as they are about winning. Under Steinbrenner the elder, it was practically all about winning as long as there’s some coin leftover afterwards.
I wonder if that will change with the 2nd wild card playoff
It is now alot more important to win the division than settling for 2nd place since that is now a lottery rather than the only handicap being the lack of home-field advantage.
That's what I like about the 2nd wildcard
Winning the division is huge. Should the league really reward the team that happens to win the most games after the division winners the same as the division winners? I like having division champions matter.
In that sense, I think they should expand the wildcard idea even further. Why not make the wildcard a 3-team ladder or 4-team bracket of 1-and-done at a neutral pre-determined location? If you don’t want to get stuck in the Last Chance tournament, then stop crying and win your division. Sure the 94-68 team has to play the 81-81 team, but the 94-68 team should’ve won their division.
This would mean more teams involved in the postseason, a ton of additional TV attention and still reward the best teams.
If you’re going to have 2, why not have 4 wildcard teams?
That seems fine in concept
But it still ignores the fact that the 83-78 2006 Cardinals were division winners, while the 90-72 2008 Brewers were not.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 5, 2011 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So, if the Phillies sign Ramirez
I wonder what it would take to get Polanco from them.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Sack o' potatoes
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"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 5, 2011 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yuni's not under contract
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
2-time BCB Fantasy Baseball Champion
Never underestimate potatoes
If I had to pick my top five desert island fruit or vegetables potatoes would be about the first thing I choose. Probably onion, tomato, lemon as well and not sure what number five would be. Perhaps mushrooms?
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
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Yeah
I figure it would fit in with the other ingredients and I could also use it to make lemon sorbet. Although if the desert island also had vinegar in plentiful supply (and weeks of reading Robinson Crusoe taught me nothing if it didn’t teach me that desert islands are full of casks of vinegar) I’d be prepared to drop it in favour of something else…
I suppose if the island was really hot then I could be persuaded to go for a melon or something instead…
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
Lemon juice is a decent preservative, and is a good flavoring for fish
Depending on the kinds of aquatic life available to you, you could really extend the length of your tolerance for sea fare with some lemon juice.
You should make it clear
that British radio would be incomparably better if they had a hugely popular show based around celebrities choosing their favourite vegetables. Could be like “Me and My Spoon”…
"I love it when any team called 'The Brew Crew' wins": Tad Kubler
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
I was thinking about that today
He is due $6.5 million for next year and mutual option for $5.5 in 2013.
I would expect him to put up about 2 WAR for the next two seasons, so given his price tag, unless the Phillies chipped in, you’re spending about twice as much money on Polanco to get about 0.4 extra WAR with McGehee. And thats before you factor in what it would take to get him.
I would assume they would want someone off of the top 10 prospect list at least.
He's going to be 36 for all of 2012
and then 37 for the 2013 season. If the Brewers are going to pay $7.5M guaranteed to that guy for 1 year ($1M option for 2013), I don’t think that a top 10 prospect is something that the Phillies will get. This guy is on the wrong side of regression mountain.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 5, 2011 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
If the Phillies want a top 10 prospect (even in the Brewers system) for a redundant bench player
who is 36 years old and getting paid 6.5 mil, they will be sorely disappointed in the market available for him.
by cwolf20 on Dec 5, 2011 3:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Glad to see the Halos were able to get *something* for Mathis
Somebody at Halos Heaven posted a bit earlier this year comparing Mathis’ career numbers with Uecker’s. It was grossly unfair to Uecker.
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
Do Angel fans hate Scioscia yet?
I know I would if I was an Angel fan. I was a Napoli fan well before he was traded, and thought Scioscia was an idiot for wasting his talent on the bench.
More twitter tracker from winter meetings:
EyeOnBaseball:
RT @MattSnyder27: also from Roenicke, he expects McGehee to be a regular, either at 3B or 1B (if Prince leaves and Gamel falters) [via Twitter]
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Dec 5, 2011 3:44 PM CST reply actions
BSOHL or bust
McGehee hit a lot better when he was trim, the added bulk may have given him a little extra strength but it hurt his bat speed and fielding.
Fielding?
Wasn’t his UZR last season better than the previous two?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Considerably so, yes.
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by SRB on Dec 5, 2011 5:49 PM CST up reply actions
Knee injuries dogged him previous years
and presumably not this past, but when he was healthy he was clearly a better fielder than he demonstrated last season.
Are you saying that his UZR last season is not indicative of how he played defense?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
But UZR for one season doesn't matter!
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
It matters about the same as 200 PA
Whether you were sarcastic or not.
by cwolf20 on Dec 6, 2011 1:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm aware of that
And I wasn’t sarcastic, just pointing out how the fact that you can’t make statements like SRB did with a whole season of UZR makes it absolutely worthless.
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
What's Roenicke supposed to say in that situation, though?
Anything less than a vote of confidence in McGehee would’ve been seen as an acknowledgment of need.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Dec 5, 2011 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree--I wouldn't give this any more attention than any other rumor, just figured it was worth mentioning
Same tracker says SF Giants no longer interested in JHJ. Since Brewers and them are only 2 teams associated with him at any point so far (that I’m aware of), that’s probably good for Mil.
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, there seemed to be some pointless Q/A there.
Some others from the interview:
When asked about Doug Melvin taking him out to Ice Cream after winning the NLDS: “I was really craving chocolate or cookie dough, but I love vanilla just as much. Did I tell you I ate a live scorpion?”
On MLB banning maple bats: “That’s a great cut of wood. We’re certainly going to miss it, but I’m looking forward seeing a lot more Ash on the diamond.”
On rosters expanding to 40 during September: “I love it. I hope they expand it to 60, 70, 250. I would love to coach every single player in the league for a game. They’d all look great in our uniforms, and I think we’d stand a really good chance of winning.”
Also
’I hope that both of the guys we offered arbitration to accept it"
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Dec 5, 2011 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
Jeez, what did Melvin put in that ice cream anyway?
I’ll have the Rocky Road, hold the delusion sauce.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 5, 2011 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
That's fine if he was asked about McGehee...
… if he wasn’t, then, not so much.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Dec 5, 2011 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
Is there any confirmation that the Rays actuall bid on Nakajima?
It appears to be a mystery.
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