Tuesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while embarking on a quest.
The Brewers' first official full squad workout of the spring is underway today, with hitters facing live BP for the first time after some remarks from Mark Attanasio and Ron Roenicke.
At least one Brewer will be glad not to be hearing from Ken Macha today: Ryan Braun has been relatively outspoken this week about the difference in approach between Macha and Roenicke when it comes to negativity, saying "the baseball experience last year was not positive," and "the whole environment and atmosphere, not necessarily with the players, was negative."
Hitters are facing off against the pitchers for the first time today, so you'll probably hear a fair amount about awkward swings. Of course, Zack Greinke is pretty good at getting awkward swings most of the time. At Royals Review, Jeff Zimmerman has lots of photos and charts showing how the Brewers' new ace pitched last season when working with catchers Jason Kendall and Brayan Pena.
About a year ago at this time, we learned that Corey Hart's spring training physical had revealed a need for minor vision correction. What we didn't know until now is that Hart threw away his contacts sometime during the spring and played all of last season without them. I'm not sure how to react to that.
Other notes from camp:
- Mark Kotsay checked into camp yesterday, so everyone is in on time.
- Thankfully the injury report is still minor at this point: John Axford is still recovering from a recent bout with food poisoning and Manny Parra is throwing again after taking a couple of days off with a stiff back.
- Adam McCalvy talked to Casey McGehee about his time with the Brewers and snapped a picture of workers mowing a pattern into the grass at Maryvale.
- Tom Haudricourt has profiles of George Kottaras and Dan Merklinger, and a video blog on this spring's optimism.
- Harper Babin of the Journal Sentinel has video of Randy Wolf giving some pitching advice.
- Kati Shearer of the Journal Sentinel talked to team nutritionist Leslie Bonci and home clubhouse assistant Matt Smith about the team's diet this spring.
- Caitlin Moyer has a profile of Brewer Clubhouse Director Tony Migliaccio.
Looking ahead, we're about eight months away from Prince Fielder's likely free agent departure. Keith Law said that hitting the market at the same time as Pujols probably hurts Fielder's value a bit, but shouldn't affect Pujols.
In the minors:
- Prospect Madness continues at Bernie's Crew: This morning's matchup features Khris Davis and Shea Vucinich.
- Brewersprospects.com has a profile of 2010 draft pick Yadiel Rivera.
It's time once again for some shameless self-promotion: Rob Neyer received his copies yesterday of a dozen Maple Street Press Baseball Annuals. Have you received your Brewer annual yet? If not, you can order it here or look for it on newsstands on March 1.
It's a relatively quiet day around baseball:
Braves: Signed GM Frank Wren to a two year contract extension.
Today in former Brewers:
- Jason Kendall sounded like a real piece of work as he butted into an interview with Royals prospect Mike Moustakas.
- Scott Podsednik, in camp with the Blue Jays, is starting spring training in a walking boot as he recovers from plantar fasciitis.
- Bill of The Platoon Advantage is the latest to pile onto the "Jim Edmonds for Hall of Fame" bandwagon.
I have a couple of notes today that can be lumped together under the heading of "contract curiosities." First, Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic has a look at non-guaranteed contracts and the points at which teams begin to owe money on them. Then, Dave Cameron of FanGraphs has a look at an unusual clause in Red Sox pitcher Andrew Miller's deal: There's a $3 million option for 2012 that only vests if Miller is claimed off waivers by another organization.
Here are some more spring training stories from today:
- "Not being a distraction" is this spring's new catch phrase.
- Hopefully Royals pitcher Everett Teaford won't be distracted by having his truck stolen.
- R.A. Dickey's "pitch face" is in midseason form.
With help from the B-Ref Play Index, we have three posthumous birthdays today:
- Seattle Pilot Steve Barber would have turned 73.
- Cazenovia, WI native Ryne Duren would have turned 82. Duren spent ten major league seasons between 1954-65 as a member of the Yankees and six other teams.
- Portage, WI native and 1891 Milwaukee Brewer George Davies would have turned 143.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I think there's something in my coffee.
Drink up.
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Rewind!
Starting to think that Dave Kerwin is a guy that follows Jason Kendall around, telling him to burn things.
Time for Braun to put on the title belt.
by drezdn on Feb 22, 2011 10:18 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
if you haven't already
make sure to scroll through the comments at Royals Review. There’s some pretty nice photoshops of Kendall. This whole story made my morning.
by Nicole Haase on Feb 22, 2011 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
and i may end up throwing out “rewind yourself” around all season now…
by Capt Science on Feb 22, 2011 11:30 AM CST up reply actions
I'm thrilled too
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
I'm glad you mentioned it
Because I hadn’t read the comments on the first pass either. There’s some really good stuff in there.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Feb 22, 2011 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
I think Dave Kerwin sounds like an Irish name...

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 22, 2011 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Remind me
why we didn’t keep R.A. Dickey around? Snicker-worthy name, questionable choices in growing his hair (always a positive in a relief pitcher), and ridiculous facial expressions… in other words, the total package.
Hart?
seriously? I take all the things back about how I think you might live up to your contract. Your getting hits last year: flukes. Until you get corrective vision, pitchers will learn how to take advantage of you.
I don't want to pay $7 to read that link
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 22, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I enjoy your posts/comments
But that reaction is a little OV-like.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Feb 22, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Part of the reason I didn't make a comment on it is because what I said probably would have been similar.
I’m glad Hart improved last year. I don’t really care what changed, as long as it doesn’t change back. With that said, I’m strongly disappointed with his decision to reject something that could have helped him improve more.
I understand that making the adjustment would have been challenging and frustrating. And if he hadn’t felt like he could do it in time to be full speed for Opening Day, I would’ve understood the decision to put off the change or take more time to work it in. But I’m having a hard time accepting the fact that he knew his vision could be improved and flat-out discarded all available solutions.
Side note: This probably explains some of the terrible decisions he makes reading balls off the bat in the outfield.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Feb 22, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Your side note makes a lot of sense
The article said he was diagnosed as being “slightly nearsighted” which means he has more trouble seeing things far away.
Would seem to come into play much more in the OF than something closer like the spin on a baseball from 60 feet away when he’s at the plate.
Get a ife broseph
nearsighted
applies to anything further away than a book that you hold at a reasonable distance. And some things at less distance than that. eg, I’m nearsighted and I can’t read a book unless it’s inches from my face.
The rating of 20/20 is for 20 feet…60 is obviously more than that.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 22, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
Right
But not all near-sightedness is the same for everyone and it differs in the degree of severity for different people, right?
Saying Corey Hart can’t read the spin on the ball is making an assumption that may not be correct IMO.
Get a ife broseph
true
but i’m assuming his vision would need to be at least 20/25 in order for them to raise a flag, and that indicates that he sees 25% less well than he should. Maybe they do make contacts for 20/20.05 vision though:P
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 22, 2011 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
I understand that making the adjustment would have been challenging and frustrating.
We’re still talking about contacts, right? Not learning to hit left-handed or replacing one of his hands with a hook or something?
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
How about replacing one of his eyes with a hook?
Would probably scare the pitcher into walking him quite a bit.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
If you can improve something, do it.
But the contacts were NOT an improvement, which is why he ditched them. He tried them, and it didn’t work.
If they cleared his vision, but were so uncomfortable as to be a distraction, then that is not an improvement. Sure, maybe with the contacts, he could pick up the spin on the ball better — but that wouldn’t help if the contacts caused him to blink incessantly or caused his eyes to be bloodshot, etc…
Just because he rejected the contacts, doesn’t mean he rejected an opportunity to improve. Quite the opposite, by trying contacts, he took the opportunity to improve, but it simply didn’t work out.
by cmow on Feb 22, 2011 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
If the contacts made him blink incessantly or caused his eyes to be bloodshot...
he should have just worn the goggles.
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by Yar Nivek on Feb 22, 2011 1:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i agree
they could have ordered them again…i’m sure the team could afford them.
of course, those could have been uncomfortable as well, but give them a shot.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 22, 2011 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
He said he hated it
last spring and that he probably wouldn’t keep them (too lazy to find a link, but I think TH covered it). He said seeing things behind the ball became dristracting. I don’t know if that’s a load of BS, but I also don’t have his eyes and can’t prove it didn’t hurt his batting.
by mpbMKE on Feb 22, 2011 1:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
If the corrected vision was the answer to his improvement, it would mean that the problem was solved. Since that wasn’t the case, then it raises some concern regarding whether he might regress.
Particularly since vision problems rarely ever go away by themselves over time… in fact, they’re more likely to get worse as he gets older.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
If his problem isn't "solved"
And he puts up another year even close to what he did last year (without the almighty glasses), I’m cool with it.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Feb 22, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm cool with it
if he keeps it up long enough to serve out his contract (although maybe a month/year short so we don’t feel obligated to re-sign him)
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 6:11 AM CST up reply actions
For the most part, I don't really mind this
I think only the freaks like a Tony Gwynn (Sr.) ever actually read the spin on the ball. I think most players just have experience regarding what pitches they expect to see and can judge from the release, release point and trajectory of the ball what kind of pitch is coming their way. Hart can still pick most of that up assuming his vision isn’t all that bad.
Hitting is so much about confidence rather than physical ability at the major league level and vision correction hasn’t been proven by any stretch to improve performance at the plate for every player. If Hart is comfortable hitting without contacts, that’s probably more important than seeing a little more clearly with the contacts.
I think you might have a great point about his work in the outfield, though. 60 ft and 270 ft would be completely different for someone with 20/40 vision. I wonder if he would be willing to wear goggles in the field, but not at the plate. It might get too disorienting to change corrective vision so often during the game and I doubt it would ever happen, but it might also serve as the best of both worlds.
by ecocd on Feb 23, 2011 7:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"It might get too disorienting to change corrective vision so often during the game and I doubt it would ever happen"
yeah, this would be an issue
The first hour or two after switching from glasses to contacts to e.g. play tennis, the ball seems to physically behave different, look different. My depth perception is completely off.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
perhaps
but I think if he’s vision is bad enough to be diagnosed in consecutive seasons, it’s likely not perfect. Better vision would likely help him see the spin on the ball, and thus predict the pitch a bit better. He had problems with the low and away slider for a couple of years. I don’t think he was pitched them quite as frequently last year, but even if he has sewed up that hole in his game, he’ll probably have a new one rip open now that pitchers suspect he can’t read the spin.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 22, 2011 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
I personally have no idea how bad his vision is
Or how it affects him when he plays, or how much of an adjustment it is for him to use contacts/glasses when he’s never had them before, or how well he can see the spin on the ball right now, and a million other things about how Corey Hart’s brain works when he plays baseball.
I agree with you in principle – if you can improve something do it, but its different for every player and every person.
I thought your reaction of calling his hits “flukes” was a bit reactionary, and that’s why I made the OV comment.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Feb 22, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We better call Bill Hall
and make sure Hart visits a different eye doctor
If Jack Cust is in left field, think triple.
by Rob Deer For President on Feb 22, 2011 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I can't believe it
but I just rec’d that
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
by theBrouhaha on Feb 22, 2011 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
I'm going to like Greinke
From TH – http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/116683129.html
My favorite part of the article (the whole thing is a good read)
As for picking his spots to talk to reporters, he said, "Probably 99% of the time I do it like this is because every day I come to the park and want to get focused on my start, and then random people come and waste my time talking every day. It takes eight minutes to get a real question out because they’re like buttering me up. Then they get to the question and it’s a stupid question. So it’s a waste of 10 minutes, and in that 10-minute time I don’t get to do what I needed to do.
"The main reason is it gets rid of all the ‘eye-wash’ comments from reporters and I actually get to focus on what needs to be focused on instead of wasting energy on other stuff."
Greinke said that also goes for shooting the bull with teammates when he’s not in the mood.
"To talk to people, I have to spend energy talking to them," he said. "If I expend my energy on talking to people and making friends, it takes away from the energy I could focus on getting ready to pitch. I try to avoid nonsense talk.
"It wears me out to do stuff like our meetings every day. If I actually listen to the person talking, it’ll wear me out. So I kind of go into a little daze. Then I’m still refreshed from it."
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Feb 22, 2011 3:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
after eating Chiptole
can he still go full speed?
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 22, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
I suppose another key question
despite his earlier embargo of guacamole at chipotle due to the price increase, has he resumed purchase of said guaco due to acceptance of that’s the way it is now and dammit, he likes his guacamole? In other words, I want to know if he’s caved to the man yet.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 22, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
Man, I love Zack Greinke.
OV, on the other hand:
I lost a lot of confidence in him after this article. He sounds so mentally
fragile. The act of listening and talking to people wears him out?
Spending energy talking to people? He sounds more like a lilly-livered,
schlemiel than a top-of-the-rotation pitcher!
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 22, 2011 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
flagged
for staring into the sun
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
As another guy with social anxiety
Zach Greinke is a fucking inspiration. Cause I’ve had these exact same thoughts multiple times.
Also, for more gold check the twitters, yo.
Greinke Quotes
The two best things about baseball are Home Runs and Curveballs.
by mladwig0 on Feb 22, 2011 4:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I think more people than we think feel something like this about interacting with other people
We just haven’t made it socially acceptable to be honest about those feelings.
/therapist’d
//nobutseriously
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 22, 2011 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Greinke and Sheffield
I guess its better to hate everybody in general.
The problems come when you starting naming specific people or cities or teams.
Wait a minute..how did Greinke escape accusations of not wanting to be in Milwaukee in the first place?
If Jack Cust is in left field, think triple.
by Rob Deer For President on Feb 22, 2011 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
By wanting to be in Milwaukee in the second place
http://www.mlbsoup.com
by tcyoung on Feb 22, 2011 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
different magnitude though
I have serious troubles in job interviews trying to make small talk and I just don’t have a fucking clue what’s going on. boss: “Hey how’s your day?” me: “job, you give me job?”
Greinke’s been my SAD hero for a few years, actually.
I'm a simple man, I go to the ballpark for Home Runs and Victories. Everything else is bonus.
by mladwig0 on Feb 23, 2011 12:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
sorry...misread "social anxiety" as
“seasonal affective” for a bit….I guess we have to stop giving our psychological ailments cute acronym names
another reason I love baseball – played in sunny months.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 6:16 AM CST up reply actions
Played 6-7 months of the year
more, more, more!
I'm a simple man, I go to the ballpark for Home Runs and Victories. Everything else is bonus.
let me extend this
I know a guy who had what appear to be the same issues as ZG. Hardly ever talked to anyone. Started getting therapy last year (or the year before) and now says awesome things, like ZG;)
only Zach Greinke can pitch too!
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 6:13 AM CST up reply actions
Sign Fielder
Since prince probably doesn’t want to face free agency with Pujols hanging out there. The Brewers should offer Fielder a 18,000,000 contract with incentives for 2012. Sell him on the fact this team will still be together in 2012. He will still be able to file for free agency and get his dough but this would lessen the impact from Pujols.
Tim Bring back the chalet,frank charles at the wurlitzer organ, bob betts at the mic, and the barrell man logo!!!!
Good luck with that
If he wanted to sign a short term deal or delay his free agency, he would have done so by now.
He’ll still get big money next offseason no matter what Pujols does.
Get a ife broseph
Exactly.
There’s still only one team that can sign Pujols.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
In Soviet Russia...
Pujols sign team
by Digger Simoens on Feb 22, 2011 4:57 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
you need to stop lurking
you’re depriving us of a great sense of humor
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
maybe the rest of his posts would amount to
spppppppppuuuuuurgggggggggggggg
and
gleep
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 6:17 AM CST up reply actions
and we all know it's not a myth
that Digger Simoens is a is a Skeevy Pervert
okay…a bit of a reach
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 8:21 AM CST up reply actions
Although what you're saying is true...
I think the personnel changes could change Fielder’s mind about signing a short-term deal with Milwaukee.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Wishful thinking
Fielder has done nothing to suggest that he’ll sign for anything less than the maximum money/years he can get as a FA after the season – from his choice in Boras as an agent to public comments, to the non-desire to negotiate a contract in the offseason.
If nothing has changed his mind in his 5+ years with the team, I don’t think adding a couple new pitchers is going to do anything.
Get a ife broseph
"to the non-desire to negotiate a contract in the offseason."
by cwolf20 on Feb 22, 2011 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh, sorry
I guess the enter key has a delay before it goes.
To be fair, he was negotiating all offseason, it’s during the season that he won’t negotiate.
There wasn't any negotiation this past offseason
It mostly ended when they weren’t able to come to an agreement before the start of last season.
Get a ife broseph
Not gon' happen. Let's just enjoy him while he's here, though, shall we?

Ain’t he cute?
I'm a simple man, I go to the ballpark for Home Runs and Victories. Everything else is bonus.
I think he's OK with facing Free Agency with Pujols
especially since there’s a good chance Pujols still resigns with the Cards.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Pujols being in FA won't really impact Fielder very much
It’s not like there’s only one team that could afford a huge contract and looking for a first baseman.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I predict
Fielder will go to the cards, assuming they don’t sign Pupu
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 6:19 AM CST up reply actions
Pujols might actually help Fielder
Add a team or two making a spot for a 1B in hopes they have a chance at Pujols. Fielder is the back up option.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
When we hire managers
Do they meet with any of the players before they get the job?
I feel like the Macha years could’ve been averted with a meet n’ greet.
I'm a simple man, I go to the ballpark for Home Runs and Victories. Everything else is bonus.
by mladwig0 on Feb 22, 2011 4:53 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know about that.
Haven’t you ever met someone who you liked at first but who, once you got to know them better, started to rub you the wrong way?
Oh you mean like the people here?
/sarcasm
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by Jeo on Feb 22, 2011 5:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt it
Just because the players like someone doesn’t mean that they’ll be a good manager… and vice-versa.
Plus, do you think a simple meet and greet would reveal to the players how a manager would run the team?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
point is
i think they should try to make sure your manager is compatible with at least the core guys (Prince, Braun, Yo, Rickie-now Greinke) before they give him that contract.
Actually, I wish there was no manager and the hitting coach made the lineup and the pitching coach did the starter and ’pen. They could just rock/paper/scissors over pinch-hitting disagreements.
I'm a simple man, I go to the ballpark for Home Runs and Victories. Everything else is bonus.
by mladwig0 on Feb 23, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In this regard
I think this falls on the responsibility of the general manager to know his players and based on that who will be the best manager for them. Melvin failed with Macha. Hopefully he’s right with Roenicke
I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful
Wouldn't the hitting coach choose pinch hitters?
seeing as they’re “hitters,” and the pitching coach gets control of the bullpen.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
I think the issue is not "who" but "when"
ie, when you’re pulling a starter.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
but in any case, rather than RPS
pitching coach decides when, batting coach decides who.
by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 23, 2011 8:15 AM CST up reply actions
Sigh.
Baseball is so close, and I just took a new job, 2nd shift. 2-10. I will see very little baseball this year :(
Are you crazy?
Get a DVR. You can watch the games in less time. I have been doing it for years.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
tough to blind yourself from the knowledge of what actually occurs in the game
watching games after the fact isn’t as fun
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