Game Thread #-8: Brewers (13-9) v. Padres (10-12)
by Kyle Lobner on Mar 22, 2011 2:00 PM CDT
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PrintThe Brewers were rained out yesterday and are off tomorrow, so this is the only chance we'll get for a few days to experience Cactus League baseball.
Follow the jump for today's pitching matchup, lineup and more!
Marco Estrada makes his first start of the spring today, and his fourth appearance. He's posted a 2.25 ERA in four Cactus League innings, walking two and striking out none.
Estrada is probably another candidate to start on April 6, so today could be a chance for us to see how close he is to being stretched out. He made one start as a Brewer last season under somewhat strange circumstances, being pressed into duty and becoming the first Brewer in decades to start on zero days' rest. Shortly after that start he was placed on the DL and didn't pitch again in 2010.
Estrada has never faced the Padres.
He'll face off against Clayton Richard (3.75 ERA, 3.81 FIP in 2010), making his third start of the spring. Richard has posted a 4.26 ERA in 6.1 innings, walking three and striking out four. He last pitched against the Rangers on Thursday, allowing a run on four hits over four innings, walking one and striking out three.
Richard has a low 90's fastball which he supplements with changeups (15% of pitches) and sliders (13.7%), along with the occasional cutter and curve. His fastball, slider, cutter and curve were all above average according to FanGraphs in 2010.
Richard has faced the Brewers four times in his career: three times in 2009 and once last season. On April 30 of 2010, he shut the Brewers out for six innings, allowing four hits and three walks while striking out eight.
Lineup:
Rickie Weeks 2B
Carlos Gomez CF
Ryan Braun LF
Casey McGehee 3B
Mark Kotsay RF
Yuniesky Betancourt SS
George Kottaras C
Erick Almonte 1B
Marco Estrada P
With the exception of first base, this is probably pretty close to the Opening Day lineup. Fielder would probably be in there, but he and Zach Braddock were sent home due to illness.
Weather:
The weather is a little cool for Arizona today, but the rain is out of the forecast. Gametime temps will be in the low 60's, and advance into the mid 60's as the day goes along.
Coverage:
Today's game is on WTMJ and available via Gameday Audio.
Enjoy the game!
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Interesting
Dillard was supposed to start yesterday. I figured they would’ve had him start today instead of Estrada.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
All I had to do was slide my finger across my phone's screen a few times to find it.
That’s the benefit of having the MLB At Bat 11 Widget on a home screen on my Android phone.
ALL the way across the screen? Gah, why bother?
by mpbMKE on Mar 22, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finding the hidden meaning
Here’s how this started:
“The Brewers were rained out yesterday and are off tomorrow, so this is the only chance we’ll get for a few days to experience Cactus League baseball.”
Here’s the hidden meaning:
“The Brewers are mercifully getting rest from being rained out yesterday and are off tomorrow, so this is the only time we’ll have to hold our breath for a few days to hope that Cactus League baseball doesn’t hurt more Brewers players.”
Humperdink, Humperdink, Humperdink!
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Me too.
I have an irrational dislike for that man.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Mar 22, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I like how he started to talk about Kotsay's year with the White Sox
and then Kotsay spared him by getting out
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
he made multiple deals this offseason
he’s a bond bimbo
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 22, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Gamel optioned to minor league camp today.
My prediction was one day off.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Your prediction was off the same way his throws are off.
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My prediction didn't hit anyone in the stands.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Mar 22, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
estrada mowing down..
These talented padres hitters
I only watch the games for Taiilgate Tips.
by jmag043 on Mar 22, 2011 3:45 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Provus with a muddled explanation of options
He should just call it an option year and be done.
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
Coors came up with "Cold-Activated Glass", Miller had to come up with some gimmick.
They’re all equally ridiculous.
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Consumers are strange creatures
The taste activator glass could save them millions in sales, regardless of being worthless in practical terms. There’s a lot of money to be made in coming up with the next taste activator glass.
I always thought that it was bad to have beer with lots of head
so I thought that was an odd selling point to feature
by Nicole Haase on Mar 22, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
You typically want about 3/4" to an inch of head on a typical pint glass
doing that with an american style light lager (miller lite, coors light, Bud light ect) is actually really difficult because the head goes away in like 23 seconds
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Depends on the style of beer, too
On an IPA you want very little head, and a stout you want a good one, etc.
My review of an IPA
“It’s like there’s a party in my mouth, and all the hops were invited!”
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With almost any beer
you want some head on it, in alot of European countries now (Not here yet) you get a pint glass ( or a 500ml glass to be accurate since they tend to for metric measures) where the line for the measure is about an inch from the top. The idea being that you should get beer up to that line and the rest should be the head of beer.
Indeed
and “pint” glasses in America, what you usually get at a resturant or a bar are typically around 14 oz than 16 oz
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I just had to look that up
to see how much 14/16oz was since you know, we dont measure liquids by weight. Why do you do that in the US?
I am assuming that the weights are based on water aswell (which is actually very similar to some of the beer mentioned in this thread)
Fluid ounces are a measure of volume, not weight.
It’s the volume of an ounce of water.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
That is what I thought
It just seemed strange when I have always associated ounces as things that made up pounds (lbs not £s)!
1 US fluid ounce = 29.5735296 mL
yes, it’s a measure of volume, not weight. But since nearly everything has the approximate density of water (alcohol less than water, but there’s probably enough solids to put it back there), you can use weight to get volume.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 22, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell-tale sign
is if you can feel a recessed bottom of the glass.Also, the thickness of the glass towards the bottom. I can put up with the 14 oz. glass as long as you’re not short-pouring me on top of it.
I have just worked out that beer here is served in approx 19oz glasses
Since 1 pint is 568ml. I think that 14oz glasses would just result in more trips to the bar.
You were paying attention to the beer?
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Without disagreeing
Those are the same company, right? So, the same moron is probably behind both of them?
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True.
I wish I could have 1% of the money spent marketing macro-brewed beer. I have a hard time believing any of that money is actually productive…most beer drinkers I know are either strongly brand loyal to one major company or hate them all.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
But how did they become strongly brand loyal in the first place?
MARKETING!
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I feel this way about Pepsi and Coke
commercials are not the deciding factor when choosing between the two
by Nicole Haase on Mar 22, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like you need to come up with some quirky gimmick to attract people here.
by BrewCrewBrian on Mar 22, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Brew Crew Ball - Now Taste Activated
hmmm….maybe not
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
is it better than....
grillax?
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Gotta figure the market
The target audience for those commercials thinks “Git R DONE!” is hilarious,
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
During the generic food craze
I wonder if they made generic beer.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
how i met your mother
A man introduced a self-named microbrew, “Wharmpuss” (pronounced Warm Piss)
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thicker head = less of that crappy beer
sounds like a good idea, although I don’t know why you’d pay for it to begin with
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 22, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Calling someone who hates Miller Lite a "beer hater" is like calling someone who hates American cheese a "cheese hater."
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Mar 22, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's more of
Miller Lite : Beer :: Cheez-wiz : Cheese
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Except
Miller Lite is actually a beer. Cheez Whiz is not cheese.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
that'd debatable
I swear they don’t brew Miller. They just take water and infuse it with filtered hop water and add a couple of drops of ethanol.
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 22, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
"More taste!"
(We never said it was a good taste)
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Slight truth to it
All major breweries and some smaller ones (including spotted cow sadly) are high gravity brewed. Which means what is brewed is higher in alcohol due to added sugar in the brewing process. It is then watered down to get the stuff you drink
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Sounds more like a beer snob than a beer hater.
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yep...i am
although I had a miller light on Patty’s day. In my defense, it was free
by PagsBrewCrew on Mar 22, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I only asked since Miller
is quite popular here (Sold in bottles) but I don’t think I have ever seen Miller Lite
They don't make regular "Miller" anymore
Miller Chill, Miller Genuine Draft, MGD 64, Miller High Life and Miller Lite are the only brands with the Miller name in them.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Miller High Life was "regular" miller
As far back as I can remember (I’m nearly 40). When I was a kid, it was either High Life or Lite, nothing else.
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm the same age as you
And despite High Life being known as just “Miller”, there actually was a “Miller” that was made during the mid-to-late 90s. The label was red, which led to it being known as “Miller Red”, but it was simply labeled as “Miller”.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Wow, I missed that
The 90s was my Milwaukee’s best period, though
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Lite is still their most popular brand in the US
but MGD and High Life have their fans.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
They reduced high life to their bargain brand for a while
Kind of went all in with MGD in the late 80s and early 90s
I’m a little nostalgic for Meister Brau now.
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember those days
When they were really pushing the black label.
They’re sort of still marketing High Life that way (e.g. the “common man” commercials).
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Little history for y'all
Way back, Miller High Life used to be their “good” heavy.
They then re-branded that recipe to make Miller/MGD.
At that time they also decided to make a crappier beer and call it Miller High Life.
Moral of the story – macro brews blow. Drink New Glarus or Lakefront or Tyranena or any of the other delicious breweries beer.
by BrewCrewBrian on Mar 23, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah!
We were talking about this. They actually started this campaign last year, if not earlier. A lot of higher-end microbrews use them for the same reason. I know Sam Adams glasses (not a micro, of course, just another example) have been using etching for a long time. The idea is that it maintains effervesence, keeping the flavor crisp and preventing that stale taste you get towards the end of your beer if you aren’t drinking professionally (that is, fast).
It’s pretty much the lipstick on pig scenario, since all you’re doing is making it taste Miller Litey longer.
Finally, some offense.
Take that Richard.
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Bet he is amazing in PETCO
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Gomez
Once again everyone around him is getting on base, but he can’t put the ball on the ground so he makes an out.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
At least he hits it? The game I watched last week, I made a comment like
“You think he’ll take a pitch?”
He then proceeded to fall to the ground with a horrendous swing and miss on the first pitch.
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He still needs to navigate the tunnel
And the showers… and god knows what dangers lurk in the parking lot
need we remind you
of the time Matt Wise knocked his head getting in to the dugout?
by Nicole Haase on Mar 22, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Playing the gender card
I have a hard time believing anyone questions the identity of the CEO of Cousins just because she’s not a man.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Mar 22, 2011 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
She sounds so sad when she says that.
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I think that and the fact that she's so young
Most people probably still thought her dad still runs the company.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Almonte looking better for making the team
I suppose it depends on whether they view Kotsay as a possible 5th outfielder. (todays game would indicate that they do)
Assuming Hart starts on the DL then Dickerson,Boggs and Kotsay could all make the team then
While we're at it
What the hell is a “Banquet Beer”? Who at Coors came up with that?
by Marty McSuperFly on Mar 22, 2011 4:50 PM CDT reply actions
I think that is one of those old timey things that never went away
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Beer that pairs nicely with microwave dinners.
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I'm not following the game
but you mean turning two DPs… not hitting into two of them, right?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Not your fault I'm not following the game.
Just needed clarification since the latter was more likely to happen.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Gomez and Kotsay are the only Brewer starting position players that are still hitless today.
I should keep that line somewhere so I can copy-paste it about 20-30 times this season.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
I'll be sad if Kotsay is in the starting lineup that much this season.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
At least the rest of the team would be hitting then!
Silver lining
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All of this Beer talk
I feel like we are in mid-season form!
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I love how Uecker says "Everth"
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Was surprised how many comments this game thread was getting
Then saw they were almost all about beer. Yay Spring Training games!
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