Chris Narveson Is Human After All, Nationals Beat Brewers 4-3 In 10 Innings
by Kyle Lobner on Apr 15, 2011 9:28 PM CDT
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W: Chad Gaudin (1-1)
L: Zach Braddock (0-1)
HR: Rickie Weeks (4)
MVP: Carlos Gomez (+.215)
LVP: Zach Braddock (-.368)
FanGraphs Win Expectancy Graph and Star of the Game Voting
After back-to-back starts where he pitched like an ace, Chris Narveson looked more like a #5 starter tonight. His scoreless streak came to a somewhat ignominious end in the second inning, as he walked the #8 hitter and the pitcher with the bases loaded to force in the first two runs of his 2011 season. He recovered to put together a decent outing, though: He allowed three runs on five hits and four walks over 5.2 innings, striking out five. He threw exactly 100 pitches.
Rickie Weeks helped the Brewers close the gap a bit with a two run homer in the fifth inning, but that was all the Brewer bats could muster until the ninth. In fact, in the first seven innings of this game the Brewers only reached second base one time. Finally, in the ninth inning Carlos Gomez singled home Rickie Weeks to tie the game, but was thrown out trying to take second on the play, sending the game into extra innings.
The Brewer bullpen kept the team in the game for 3.1 innings tonight, as Sergio Mitre, Mitch Stetter and Sean Green combined to hold the Nationals scoreless through regulation. Unfortunately their luck ran out in the tenth as Jayson Werth reached and took second on a Yuniesky Betancourt error, stole third and came home on a walkoff fielder's choice.
In other notes:
- Zach Braddock pitched the tenth inning tonight and hit 93 on the gun, so his velocity appears to be back up. He lost the game and gets LVP tonight despite not allowing a hit.
- With Narveson on the mound, Wil Nieves (who had caught both of his prior starts) got the start at catcher tonight. He went 1-for-3 with a double before being lifted as part of a double switch when Narveson left the game.
- With the Brewers facing a lefty for the second straight day, Erick Almonte made back-to-back starts for the first time all season. He went 1-for-4 with a single.
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I said once and I'll say it again
Sub 0.200 BABIP and he’s not just getting unlucky. He’s that awful.
The Brewers lost in extra innings on a dumb Betancourt error?
Oh my goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood!!!
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Apr 15, 2011 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
saw the link and clicked
signed in to green for an A+ troll 2 reference.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Apr 15, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Somebody needs to hook up a USB cable to the DVR and rip it off there
Slowly negating baseball nerdery on BrewCrewBall.
JEO's Fantasy Football team sucked.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 15, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Brewers.com will have it later I'm sure
Brewers, I'm planning on sending you the bill for the heart disease you'll eventually give me. Packers, you're on notice.
Great Moments in Sporting History: Apr. 6, 2011- Carlos Gomez takes a four pitch walk
I want to save it for ehhhhhfuuurrrrr
Slowly negating baseball nerdery on BrewCrewBall.
JEO's Fantasy Football team sucked.
by Dikembe Meiztombo on Apr 15, 2011 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Instead of a Fire Ken Macha or Doug Melvin site someone
should make a Fire Betancourt site…
by Flanyboy on Apr 15, 2011 9:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
FireJoePa truned into a support site.
gotta be careful with them
Brewers, I'm planning on sending you the bill for the heart disease you'll eventually give me. Packers, you're on notice.
Great Moments in Sporting History: Apr. 6, 2011- Carlos Gomez takes a four pitch walk
Do you think Melvin in his head is going through the FA list
Knowing he can’t actually make a move, but fantasizing about it?
Why can't he?
Nationwide Writer for SBNation's Nascar Ranting & Raving (www.4ever3blog.com)
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
Now on Twitter: @RockstarTroy
the FA list of available shortstops is uh
barren.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Apr 15, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
There's that one guy
he HAS to be better
Brewers, I'm planning on sending you the bill for the heart disease you'll eventually give me. Packers, you're on notice.
Great Moments in Sporting History: Apr. 6, 2011- Carlos Gomez takes a four pitch walk
That’s what I thought, I wasn’t sure if I was missing something with the way ecocd said that.
Nationwide Writer for SBNation's Nascar Ranting & Raving (www.4ever3blog.com)
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
Now on Twitter: @RockstarTroy
might as well just play counsell every day then.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Apr 15, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
As bad as Yuni is (and he found a way to be worse than projected)
He’s no worse than any available options on the FA market. Letting Cruz walk might outrank Melvin’s signing of Kotsay.
Walk?
He was going to leave unless he made the team. If Kotsay isn’t signed, Cruz makes the team.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
no
you mean if almonte or reed dont make the team we let cruz make the team….we had 30 or 40 outfielders making the team anyway and Melvin let reed and almonte on it
If any of those guys don't make the roster, then there'd be a spot for Cruz on the roster.
However, Reed and Almonte had a good ST, so you could argue that they earned their spots. Can you really say the same about Kotsay?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Cruz didn't want to play here either way.
He left to play in the minors for Texas, so I don’t think the 25-man roster was his main goal.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Apr 16, 2011 5:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, yes. There were other free agent options out there at the time
If Cabrera and Punto were still available and Eckstein was available, Eckstein is still the worst of the three. Beggars can’t be choosers and Eckstein might be capable of putting up a 0.0 WAR season so he could be the best alternative available despite being terrible..
Actually
It was last winter when you posted that… and there were much better options out there at that time.
Yes, he’s probably the best option available on the FA market.
Also, I don’t know about you being “soundly ridiculed”. I only see one post questioning the suggestion and one post flagging it… followed by a few posts about Costas’ comments about Eckstein.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
5 man infield
very pleased to see RR willing to call for one. didn’t work tonight, but i think that’s mostly because YUNI IS A GOD AWFUL FIELDER AND HIS BAT IN NO WAY MAKES UP FOR HIS BABY-SMOTHERING DEFENSE.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
I thought it was a smart move.
Should have worked too. Looked like Prince lost the handle on the ball.
Without the Betancourt error, it’s a non-issue though. He needs to go.
For your health!
Even with a good throw, I think Werth is safe.
I can see why he doesn’t walk LaRoche to setup the DP (wanted to keep the lefty-lefty matchup), but why wasn’t the infield in?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
They were playing at the edge of the infield grass.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Actually
without Narveson walking in two runs in the first, it’s a non-issue.
"The Milwaukee Brewers' line score is starting to resemble an international phone number" - Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout - 4-22-10
really?
never know when the sarc detector is giving a false positive
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 16, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
This is the type of loss that makes you want to throw yourself off a bridge...
Not seriously but damn its frustrating… Yuni is lucky that happened on the road, oh man imagine the shit storm that would have from from a packed Friday night game in Miller…
I wonder if pitchers ever get mad at photographer for taking mid pitch photos. Those things are always gold.
Nationwide Writer for SBNation's Nascar Ranting & Raving (www.4ever3blog.com)
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
Now on Twitter: @RockstarTroy
It sucks, I was actually coming around to Yuni after he had been making some nice plays of late
Then YunE6 showed up and I’m back to hating him.
Though, you have to admit Fielder made some mistakes in the 10th too, one he could’ve gotten off the bag to get that ball and kept Werth at first, and then he made a bad throw to the plate to end the game. Plus, Braddock easily could’ve picked off or at least attempted to pick off Werth at 2nd and 3rd honestly. Werth was half way to home when Braddock threw the pitch, think he was leaning a bit?
Everyone just needs to Grillax a little bit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVod3uqtqgk
Appparently MLB Network made the same point about Werth
With a 5-man infield, you can play one of the fielders on the 3rd base bag to keep the runner honest. Fielder doesn’t even have to go home if Casey’s on the bag.
I bet Werth is willing to test Braddock's pickoff move to third.
I would dare him to throw the ball my way if I was on third with a lefty on the mound, there.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
It's all on Betancourt
The throw to 1B was horrid… it looked like it sailed away from him. My guess is that Betancourt rushed it and didn’t get a good grip on the ball before throwing it.
As far as the play at home, Werth was not halfway to home when Braddock threw the pitch. Look at the video I linked above. He was about a third of the way home after LaRoche hit the ball.
If anything, I thought the infield should’ve been playing in.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
its not all on Yuni
Fielder has to get off the bag realizing the poor throw or stretch farther to catch it….it looked like he was standing straight up….you gotta at leat try to stretch…so its not all on Yuni
he was not standing straight up
Every man must believe in something, I believe I'll have another drink.
Watch the video again
He was not standing straight up. He was already stretching to his left. The throw was high and sailed away from Fielder.
It was a routine play at SS. It wasn’t like Betancourt was making an off-balance throw. The ball was right to him and all he had to do is throw it to Fielder… not down the baseline.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I know we're all gloom and dooming now, and I'm sorry to interrupt that.
But tonight’s Stat of the Night might be the best one I’ve ever had, so be sure to stick around for that.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
And it's up.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Apr 15, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions
TWHS
Celebrating the addition of Greinke and mourning the loss of my man crush Cain
by molitorfan on Apr 16, 2011 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Time to drown my sorrow with a klondike bar
Nationwide Writer for SBNation's Nascar Ranting & Raving (www.4ever3blog.com)
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
Now on Twitter: @RockstarTroy
what would ya dooooOOOOOoooo
Brewers, I'm planning on sending you the bill for the heart disease you'll eventually give me. Packers, you're on notice.
Great Moments in Sporting History: Apr. 6, 2011- Carlos Gomez takes a four pitch walk
Here's something to talk about while we're waiting for Roenicke's postgame remarks:
If the two teams find a way to play tomorrow through the weather, do you start Yo and risk a rain delay, or push him back to Sunday and start Estrada?
Now that's great tasting chicken!
If you do
Hopefully Yo pitches better on Sunday this year then he did last year.
Nationwide Writer for SBNation's Nascar Ranting & Raving (www.4ever3blog.com)
"A ringing single for David Eckstein who, in my view, is the perfect size for an American male." -Bob Costas
Now on Twitter: @RockstarTroy
no, we cannot yet use yo
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
I don't know if this was covered in the thread or on the air...
Why didn’t the brewers just load the bases after the guy reached 3rd with one out?
The middle could have played for the DP, and they would have had a force at home.
Laroche has a huge K%
Close to 30%. There’s a real good chance Braddock strikes him out, almost did.
Get a ife broseph
Load the bases?
That would’ve required them to walk the next two batters. I can’t remember any team ever doing that before. I guess that’s possible, but then you have bases-loaded with one out. A flyball to the OF likely scores Werth in that case, plus it forces the pitcher to throw strikes (as a BB scores a run too).
You could maybe argue walking LaRoche to set up the DP, but as Supertramp stated, LaRoche is a lefty and isn’t very good against lefty pitchers… and brings up Ramos who has been on fire at the plate so far this season.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Apr 16, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I seem to remember this happening from time to time.
At least as often as the old five man infield.
A grounder or fly was going to score the run. So you have a about a 30% chance of a K or popup.
If you loaded the bases you might get
A strikeout.
A force at home (Prince would have gotten him at home with a clean field and throw)
Double play.
Pretty much any grounder would have kept the crew in the game.
"We practiced it a couple of times this spring," said Braun. "That’s my natural position. I’m good at shortstop; I’m comfortable there."
lol
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Apr 16, 2011 1:36 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
He might be better at SS than 3B
He played SS in college and was converted to 3B when he came to the pros.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Braun for SS!
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
Ugh
That was pretty painful to attend with the wind, cold temps, and below par Brewers baseball. I would like to give a shout out to the Wave of Douches that were sitting around me:
3rd Place: The Brewers fan behind me who apparently had never seen the Brewers play before and was confused about such things as double switches, left-right splits, and pinch hitters. The only saving grace was the Twins fan sitting with him who complained about Gomez the whole night.
2nd Place: The guy in the row behind me who looked like Billy Bush, cheered for the Nats while claiming he was “the world’s biggest Braves fan” and who thought “we are still winning” was a clever response to Brewers’ fans cheering for Rickie’s HR.
Douche of the Night: The guy 2 rows in front of me with a Red Sox hat who was 23 beers into his night and was taunting Braun for 2 innings. One problem: we were in right field and he was yelling at Almonte. When I finally told him in the bottom of the 9th that Braun played left his response was, “He is on my fantasy team and he needs to carry my squad”. He would be one hell of a motivational speaker.
I can’t wait for Sunday’s game. Hopefully they have Wi Fi in prison after I snap someone’s neck in the stands.
Celebrating the addition of Greinke and mourning the loss of my man crush Cain
by molitorfan on Apr 16, 2011 7:56 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
did he look like paul molitor
or alternatively a FOX animated character?
by PagsBrewCrew on Apr 16, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Some Nats fans
were yelling Yount and Molitor at me every time I left the section. I was enjoying it.
Celebrating the addition of Greinke and mourning the loss of my man crush Cain
Not sure how that was supposed to be making fun of you...
but you could’ve asked them to name a HOFer from the Nats. That would’ve shut them up for at least a few innings.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
There's a couple future HOFers
Vlad and Pudge. Pudge will probably go in as a Ranger, but Vlad might go in as an Expo.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
What's the term for unrealistic optimism?
What if this is a trigger for Yuni? A turning point, if you will. Early in his career he was at least average defensively. He got progressively worse and from what I’ve picked up, progressively more round throughout his career.
What if knowing he was responsible for the scoring run to come across home plate when it actually matters to him if the team wins or loses makes something click in his mind? “I used to make that play. I used to get to that ball. I let all these guys down. This is important now.” You know, actually feeling bad about a loss.
The last time it mattered if his team won or lost was in 2007 with the Mariners. The rest of his teams have been horrible and had no chance to make the postseason before the first pitch was even thrown. Knowing you’re responsible for a loss and you actually care about losing can be pretty powerful.
Or he really doesn’t give a damn about baseball or his teammates. He wasn’t very good when he was at his best. Then he laughs it off and continues to be even worse than the most pessimistic projections.
by ecocd on Apr 16, 2011 8:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
high
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
I believe the term you're looking for is "wishful thinking"
Although the scenario you laid out sounds like it would make an EXCELLENT fan fiction piece, if done correctly, so maybe that would be a better term.
If I were Ryan Braun, I'd be really excited to be Ryan Braun, too.
He's not good and probably not getting better, but one error does not make him any worse than he was the day before yesterday or coming into the season.
It’s not like Betancourt single-handedly cost the Brewers the game last night.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
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