Monday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while taking yourself out.
The Brewers picked up another win yesterday to improve to 13-6 at home but nearly fell victim to the curse of "one bad inning." Zack Greinke had faced the minimum through four frames but needed 47 pitches to complete the fifth as five Pirate runs crossed the plate, trimming a 6-0 Brewer lead to 6-5. Ron Roenicke said the Brewers considered the possibility that Greinke might have been tipping his pitches during his rough inning.
It was a pretty good homestand for a lot of Brewers but Jonathan Lucroy probably had the best week, hitting .500/.526/1.000 with five extra base hits in five games. Nick Petakas of The Brewers Bar is starting the campaign to get Lucroy to the All Star Game.
Other notes from the field:
- Ryan Braun and Casey McGehee's first inning home runs yesterday were the fourth time two Brewers have homered in an inning this season. When Jonathan Lucroy tacked one on later, it was the seventh time they've had three long balls in a game in 2011.
- You Can't Predict Baseball notes that the Pirates went 5-for-8 with runners in scoring position yesterday while the Brewers went 2-for-11.
- Here's a transcript of Ron Roenicke's postgame comments.
- Ryan Braun, Jonathan Lucroy and Marco Estrada are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game voting.
- 37,059 paid to see yesterday's game, a day after 42,422 showed up for Saturday's contest. It was the Brewers' third sellout of the season.
- Greinke has some distant relatives in Wisconsin, and they were in attendance yesterday.
- Brandon Boggs hit his second Brewer home run on Saturday and rounded the bases in 17.11 seconds, the fastest trot of the day.
- The italian sausage won Sunday's sausage race, and the hot dog won on Saturday. I think the hot dog also won on Friday, but I'm not sure.
- Friday night's game featured a minor bench-clearing incident after Rickie Weeks and Ronny Cedeno collided on a rundown between second and third base. No punches were thrown, but Todd Rosiak notes that it was Ron Roenicke's first such incident as manager.
- Pirates reliever Jose Ascanio pitched a scoreless inning on Friday in his first major league game since undergoing shoulder surgery in 2009.
- All six Great Lakes teams won on Friday for just the 13th time since 2000.
Meanwhile, here's a note on what didn't happen yesterday: Brewer batters were not hit by a pitch for the 15th consecutive game, and Plunk Everyone notes that it's their longest streak since 1996.
Tim Dillard also didn't make his 2011 debut. He was called up on Saturday when Brandon Kintzler's sore triceps finally forced him to go on the DL (FanShot).Adam McCalvy says Dillard is the most likable human being he's ever met. Apparently he also had no idea the promotion was coming.
I mentioned this in Friday's game thread, but I'll bring it up again: After a weekend of watching and hearing Clint Hurdle, I'm happy he's not managing the Brewers and even more excited to have him at the helm of a division opponent. Here's what he told Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review about statistics:
"Playing it by the book covers your backside," Hurdle said. "But I decided early on I didn’t want to look back and say, ‘That stat sheet got me.’ The scouting report is important, but I do think that sometimes we get too analytical."
...
"Something new always pops up," Hurdle said. "The challenge I have, looking at all those obscure numbers, is those numbers were all crunched with no human emotion involved."
Looking forward, the Brewers are in Los Angeles this morning getting ready to open a quick two game series against the Dodgers tonight. Joey Nowak of MLB.com has the preview.
Zach Braddock could rejoin the team in LA today, but at this point the decision has not been announced. A whirlwind West Coast trip might not be the best thing for a guy with a sleep disorder.
Zack Greinke's April and May have opened a fair number of eyes to the pitfalls of potentially dangerous offseason activities. Hangwith'em Rach has a look at the Brewers most likely to be injured by their hobbies.
Speaking of Greinke, he's on the road with the team this week but will fly home early to get a good night's sleep before Friday's start against the Rockies. Since the final game of the trip is a 9 pm Thursday start in San Diego, the rest of the team might not get back to Milwaukee until after sunrise Friday morning.
By the way, allowing San Diego to schedule getaway-day night games is absolutely asinine. This "four day, two city" trip would be bad enough without having to deal with four straight 9 pm starts.
Elsewhere in stupid things:
- First base ump Brian O'Nora demonstrated a lack of professionalism by staring down Rickie Weeks after calling him out on a check swing yesterday. I screenshotted it, in case you missed it.
- Because Fox has decided to start televising night games instead of afternoon games on Saturdays and no other games can be televised during their window, Saturday's Brewers-Rockies game will not be on TV.
- Hangwith'em Rach documented her issues attempting to explain blackout policies to the people at DirecTV who are supposed to understand them.
Yovani Gallardo will pitch the first game of the Padres series on Wednesday. Over the weekend he won our Brewer of the Week voting for the second time this season.
Even with last week's impressive home showing, the Brewers are still one of baseball's least productive offenses in May. Baseball In-Depth notes that the Brewers were fifth in OPS in April and 25th in May, making them one of seven teams to drop ten spots or more.
In the minors:
- The affiliates went 1-4 yesterday, with Nashville picking up the only win. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- Wisconsin's loss snapped a seven game winning streak, which was their longest since 2003.
- In a draft note, Jim Callis of Baseball America says the Brewers are "hot & heavy" for lefthanded Georgia high school outfielder Larry Greene.
- Adam McCalvy reports that the Brewers have released pitcher Alex Periard and outfielder Demetrius McKelvie. Neither had played in the organization in 2011.
If you'd like more Brewer content this morning but you're sick of reading, Todd Rosiak of the JS has a video blog discussing Sunday's win and this week's road trip.
If you missed it over the weekend, you really should go back and read sicklebeat's Brief Story of Redemption. I won't spoil the ending, but I gained a fair amount of respect for Doug Melvin reading it.
Around baseball:
Braves: Placed pitcher Brandon Beachy on the DL with an oblique injury.
Dodgers: Placed reliever Blake Hawksworth on the DL with a groin strain.
Mariners: Claimed pitcher Jeff Gray off waivers from the White Sox.
Nationals: Designated pitcher Brian Broderick for assignment.
Padres: Pitcher Randy Flores has opted out of his minor league contract and is now a free agent.
Pirates: Released pitcher Scott Olsen.
Rangers: Placed outfielder Julio Borbon on the DL with a hamstring injury.
Tigers: Placed outfielder Magglio Ordonez on the DL with an ankle injury.
Twins: Placed reliever Jose Mijares on the DL with an elbow injury and designated catcher Steve Holm for assignment.
This weekend's sweep brought the Brewers back to third place and within four games of the now division leading Reds, who swept the Cardinals over the weekend. You know that and much more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central.
Today in former Brewers:
- Lorenzo Cain hit for the cycle with a grand slam for AAA Omaha on Saturday.
- Carlos Lee picked up his 2000th hit on Saturday. Brian McTaggart noted that 275 of those hits came as a Brewer.
- Todd Coffey's weekend wasn't as good. He was hit above his elbow by a line drive on Sunday. X-rays came back negative.
- Doug Davis pitched five innings and allowed three runs (one earned) on four hits, walking one and striking out six in his Cubs debut on Saturday. They went on to lose the game 3-0.
- John Sickels of Minor League Ball notes that Brett Lawrie and Jake Odorizzi would have been eligible for the 2011 draft if they'd gone to college instead of signing with the Brewers.
- Keith Law is betting Lawrie will be called up to the majors before June.
- J-Doug of Beyond the Box Score has a look at retired uniform numbers around the NL Central.
- Rollie Fingers and Nashville pitching coach Rich Gale are matching up in the first round of NotGraphs' Baseball Card Tourney.
- The B-Ref Blog has a list of players who have made at least 502 plate appearances in a season with a BABIP over .400, and Jose Hernandez's 2003 season is on it. That's better known as the season where he struck out 188 times.
- Greg Vaughn, Jim Edmonds and Ben Oglivie made B-Ref's list of players who hit 40 home runs in a season after age 30 despite never doing it before.
We're halfway through May and offense still hasn't picked up in 2011. Cybermetrics notes that the NL is hitting just .248/.320./.379 in the month.
One of the best things about my daily search for Mug content is the random stuff I learn but otherwise never would have known. Gaslamp Ball, for example, has a post today on PETA's "Boycott PETCO" brick outside PETCO Park. I also would not have known that the Rays have baseball's first eunuch mascot.
Over the winter I mentioned the Indians "Snow Days" promotion, where they turned their park into a giant winter playground, and wondered why more teams don't do something similar. Here's why: The team ended up having to re-sod the entire outfield, and now it doesn't drain as well. The Indians were rained out at home twice this weekend.
Today in baseball economics: The Mets are just now starting to make payments on over $30 million owed to Bobby Bonilla because of deferred salary from 1999. It would've cost them $5.9 million to pay him off then, but they deferred it at 8% annual interest instead.
Thankfully the Brewers aren't on this list: Jason Brannon of SBNation.com has visual evidence of the 20 ugliest caps licensed by Major League Baseball.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to return Jon Miller's pants.
Drink up.
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No mention of Bautista's 3 HR day?
I mean, holy crap, that was incredible; he now has one less HR in Target Field than the Twins do combined!!
Can you imagine if he had been healthy the whole year??? Wowwwwww
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
it's getting to the point where you honestly wonder if Bautista could break the HR record
for a single season, if he plays 150+ games
he’s definitely on pace to do it and really does not seem to be slowing down
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
hate to say it
but the first thing I think when I look at Bautista’s pre- and post-Jays numbers is PED.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 16, 2011 10:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You don't just take steroids and learn how to be patient and mash like he has
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on May 16, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I understand how anabolic steroids work.
His ISO was .357 last year…nearly double anything he had ever done in his career prior in a big sample size.
That would be what we call an exception to the rule.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 16, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course he's on steroids
He’s just good at pissin’
by nullacct on May 16, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pitch tipping
it sounds like RR was suggesting that he was tipping his pitches to the opposing dugout. What the hell would that do? The batter can’t exactly look into the dugout to see what the pitch is and then refocus on the ball in time to hit it. The only ways that pitch tipping makes sense is a) the batter seeing the tip himself b) having a signal coming from up the middle (which isn’t going to happen for a visiting team) c) major league esque catcher saying “here comes a fastball” d) wireless radio receivers in the batter’s helmet (is this allowed in MLB?)
I thought he meant that he couldn't see if Greinke was tipping
Because he was in the 1B dugout and couldn’t get a good view.
The opposing team would be able to see better from their dugout, and alert their batters on what to look for.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What I got from his comments, is that Ron couldn't tell if he was tipping his pitches, because he was looking at Greinke's back.
If he was looking at his front, he’d have a better idea if Greinke was doing something to tip his pitches.
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by tcyoung on May 16, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"All six Great Lakes teams won on Friday for just the 13th time since 2000."
and on friday the 13th, no less
I concur.
I’m going to have a burger at lunch in honor of their cleverness.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 16, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'll be eating a bird and a pig with some cheese that was milked from a cow.
I won’t be eating it at PETCO, though.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
i'm vegan, and i dislike peta.
i find their tactics to be heavy-handed and mostly counter productive.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on May 16, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Given his affinity for mac and cheese
I’m going to guess no.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait. Haven't I seen pictures of you eating an entire jar of Mayonnaise?
I'm a Prince Fielder honk.
Also, the LIONS! (tm)
by Dikembe Meiztombo on May 16, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I like to challenge myself
I try to see how many different animals I can consume in a single burger
I think that 5 might be the most I have had = beef, bacon, ham, egg (it counts because it is chicken), and bratwurst.
by BrewCrewBrian on May 16, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
What?
Yeah, right Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.
by BrewCrewBrian on May 16, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
That's probably three animals....
Depending on what the bratwurst was made from. Chances are it comes from the same animal as either the beef or the bacon & ham.
Of course, for all I know it was made from something like lamb, and then it is four.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
I give you... The Ark Burger!

Chicken Schnitzel, egg, pineapple, bacon, scotch fillet steak, beef patty, cheese, BBQ chicken, tomato and onion. As far as I can tell, it’s still only 3 animals, in total, however.
by mpbMKE on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brewers scored 17 runs during their road trip (only 9 in their 8 losses)
but 40 during the homestand.
I understand variance and all but this is just astonishing.
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
wow, this Betancourt quote sucks
Betancourt entered Sunday’s game hitting 5-for-37 in May with no walks, giving him a .135 average and a .128 OBP for the month. For the season, Betancourt was batting .225 with a .250 OBP.
“He always has [had a low on-base mark],” Roenicke said. “He’s a swinger. He’s not going to hit .230. What happens with him is he’ll hit .270, .280 and his on-base is going to be [in the] low .300s.”
Can’t Brewers coaches ask Betancourt to try taking some pitches?
“They have before, and he gets defensive and his at-bats aren’t as good,” Roenicke said. “That was the problem in Seattle; they approached him that way. Last year [in Kansas City], they didn’t and he had a very good offensive year. They let him be himself.”
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
Sigh.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on May 16, 2011 9:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And double sigh:
I failed to sigh about the part where the problem in Seattle was that THEY TRIED TO COACH HIM.
Blarg.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on May 16, 2011 10:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I sort of see his point
If Seattle tried to drastically rebuild his entire plate approach, it could make him worse than he already is (yes, that is possible).
The rest of that just seems like RR trying to stick up for his player.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
so what do they do?
Start Counsell twice a week to “minimize” the damage? Pick up someone at the deadline?
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
That's, um, optimistic, Ron.
Yuni hasn’t had a BA at .270 or an OBP in the low .300s since 2008, and even then, his OBP was .300 even.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he's talking about the good month that Yuni is going to have at some point...
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The biggest statistical anomoly of the Brewers' quarter-season
Ryan Bruan 173PA, OPS .996 (#6 in MLB)….three doubles.
"obscure numbers" crunched with "no human emotion"
sigh. i can’t think of too many other professions where management is allowed to blatantly and ignorantly disregard statistical analysis in favor of gut feelings and heart and grit.
I blame that on Kotsay.
by MKEtotheATX on May 16, 2011 9:56 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Ah yes, good call
How could I have forgotten about KUG rankings!
I blame that on Kotsay.
by MKEtotheATX on May 16, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
That quote is bonkers.
Ignoring statistics that can provide context for your decisions is akin to not caring whether the pitcher warming up in the pen is a lefty or a righty. 90% of the time statistics are just going to confirm what is already obvious. Sabermetic stats tell us that Pujols is a great hitter, no surprise. Stats are valuable in that 10% of the time where perception is deceiving and some context can give you a more rounded viewpoint.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on May 16, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting to me is that their GM (whose name I can not recall) is a big proponent of sabermetrics. I wonder why he would hire a guy that didn’t think the same way.
Of course, Melvin hired a couple of guys that differ a bit philosophically
It's not quite so important for a rebuilding team.
If you’re not expected to win, playing the matchups isn’t terribly important, but making sure you give your youngsters as many chances to play as possible, and making sure you’re catching the mechanical adjustments they can make to improve their stats is.
But yeah, if you have a contender, you want a guy who’s willing to delve deep into those stats to give his team the best chance to win NOW.
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by tcyoung on May 16, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Callis Quote
More of the same from the Brewer draft team is what this appears to me. Some nice tools there especially power, but not the guy that would be ideal for the 15th pick.
The rumored guy they are “hot and heavy for” for that #12 pick could be disastrous as well (Tyler Guierreri).
Not a good sign, imo, that the SD/Department is heading in the right direction.
Who do you want to see, and why?
Not trying to be pushy or rude or anything, I just know nothing about these draft picks.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
For me
Most of the top shelf talent will be gone when the Brewers pick at #12 and #15, but there will still be plenty of potential impact players there.
The reason that I am not big on either Guirrieri or Green is that both of them have come out of nowhere this year, and not that that is a bad thing by itself, but those guys tend to flame out (Eric Arnett ring any bells)?
Guirrieri has potential ace stuff with a mid 90s fastball and a nice breaking ball as well, but the changeup isnt really there yet, and you never really know if will ever get there. He reminds me a lot of Jeffress at the same age, who I also was not high on, and felt that when the Brewers took him it was an over draft.
And Greene has big power potential and has the football player type body. But he really only has the one tool maybe could get to 2 at some point. Again, it is a non protected pick, but taking a guy 20 or maybe even 30 spots too early just because its a safe sign, well, thats just not good planning imo.
I would prefer to see Matt Barnes, RHP, UConn with the 15th pick. He has the same stuff as Guierriri, exccept has the polish and experience that TG does not. The only thing he lacks is consistency. He would be 2 to 3 years closer to MLB roster and is more of a certainty. He will want a nice signing bonus, but you wont have a hard time signing him, so they dont have to worry about losing the guy. They could also go with 1B CJ Cron of Utah, who is a big bat first baseman who also can play catcher but has been limited to !B this year because of injury. Again, he has the experience and can prove he can hit good pitching (above a guy like Greene) and even though he is a C his bat can play at 1B.
At that #12 pick I would go a bit more risky with Blake Swihart, a switch hitting catcher who has power and all of the defensive skills to stick and play a good MLB catcher. He would have a higher ceiling than a guy like Lucroy does.
What about Francisco Lindor?
Our farm system could really use a SS, but I’ve heard mixed reports about him.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on May 16, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I would LOVE Lindor
But he is a top 10 pick most likely. Some people think even top 5.
There’s word out there even that the Pirates may even take Dylan Bundy over Cole or Rendon, which would lead me to believe that if people are worried in that way about the two best prospects in the draft, might be driving up the value of HS players (such as Guerreri or Greene). This would be good for Lindor as well.
I personally wouldn't put any stock in what scouts and such are saying at this point.
Not on on draft predictions like this. I don’t remember once hearing last season that the Crew was interested in Covey. It’s just speculation right now. I’m sure they’re very interested in a number of players, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to draft them.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on May 16, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Friday's Sausage Race
I was at the game on Friday… and the Hot Dog won the race.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Pitching matchups for road trip
Nice that the Brewers miss Kershaw and Billingsley this week. The two Padre pitchers they get – Harang and Mosley- have both struggled lately.
Get a ife broseph
the Padres offense has been on fire since the Tuesday game though
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
Petco might fix that.
Actually, a park that big, with as little power as the Padres have, might actually help them..
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Thankfully
Going to keep needing good luck in that respect in order to climb out of the hole they created
Get a ife broseph
may schedule looks pretty friendly though
they need to be playing their best ball in June, if they can get into July at .500 or better they should be able to make a run
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
Yeah it definitely helps
All 3 of those games against the Pirates hurt the Pythagorean W-L. Gallardo and Greinke’s starts might not have been W’s with teams that hit.
They havent really changed pace from where they were a couple of weeks ago. They are producting like a 95 win team, but are 2 games under .500. If you believed like I did that they are an 88 win team, if they get to .500 and play at .543 ball the rest of the way, they wind up with 86 wins.
Probably some regression due from Braun, Fielder, Weeks, Gomez, McGehee Lucroy, with increase from Hart. And then on the pitching side regression due from Marcum and Narveson with improvement from Gallardo, Greinke and Wolf.
Here’s a good topic for discussion: Who do you think has outperformed the most so far this year? The answer is Carlos Gomez, who is on pace for a 4.8 WAR season. (1.2 × 4 (quarter of the way through the season right now).
Gomez? Nearly 5 WAR?
blows brains out
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
that's not with the 7x premium for defense?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 16, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Its not out of the question
But I see your point. Either way, he’s a regression candidate.
How much would OV freak if they saw a 28 UZR guy in CF of all places, and a -6 bat?
according to WAR he's actually the 5th best player on the team
the others are Braun, Fielder, Weeks, and Marcum
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
McGehee's OPS so far is 50 points lower than last year and 100 points lower than 2009
And you still think he’s going to regress even from that? Or are you just talking about regression on defense?
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
MAybe regression to the mean.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
This
And the defense question.
Do you really believe that he is an 800 OPS guy? It took a huge week from bad pitching to get him to a decent level. Much like I felt about JJ Hardy in 08, I feel the same way about McGehee now.
Most projection systems, as well as scouting, believe the guy is going to regress. I’m not alone in this belief.
I still want to know when it's no longer "regressing"
He’s had two years of productive major league experience. If he happens to have an OPS of .800 by the All-Star Break is he still in danger of “regressing?” How many seasons does it take for a poor season to be a “down year” rather than a regression?
by ecocd on May 16, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha, sort of my thinking as well
Feel like he’ll fall apart in 2018 and there will be a bunch of talk about how he finally regressed
Get a ife broseph
A lot of people were talking about Braun regressing last year.
And how he was “past his prime.” Granted, they were mostly Cubs fans.
And to anyone who was saying so
I pointed out that he had an injured elbow and would return to form shortly. Which he did.
A person is smart.
People are dumb, panicky animals and you know it.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
I defer again to my feelings on JJ Hardy in 2008
Of course I dont know how it works with other players from other teams, but things tend to even out in this game. And scouts and scouting reports are usually correct.
That being said, if he finishes the year with a .750 or so OPS I wouldnt really call it a down year, as the start of something, given his age, and skill set. Again, my opinion, but I’m not the only one with it.
I'd be curious what his current scouting report says
After changing some parts of his swing and approach from his time in the minors. That would matter a bit more to me than something from a few years ago.
Get a ife broseph
Guys change thigs every year.
We hear almost every year when a guy does better how the change he made over the offseason is helping him this year. I don’t expect McGehee to be much more than a .750-.780 OPS guy going forward.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Probably right about where I'd expect him to be as well
His minor league scouting report probably had him worse than that, which is why I’d be curious in hearing a professional report since he changed his swing in 2008.
Get a ife broseph
My guess is it would be much worse.
If I remember correctly in his best minor league years he was around .770 OPS.
Never mind, I just looked it up. A .750 OPS based on his MiLB numbers is pretty generous.(.693/.704/.776/.742/.729/.774) Pretty ugly really.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Not too outlandish to say the guy is outperforming`
A guy on pace for 64 HR is obviously playing out of his head right now. He is on pace to perform at a rate 3 times that of league average.
If I were to put a projection on him going forward, I would put him in the 8 WAR Range for the season. He is on pace right now for a 15.6 WAR season.
I get that he's supposed to regress (obviously, he already has)
I just wonder how much further you expect him to drop. The guy’s not going to turn into Yuniesky Betancourt at the plate.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No not that bad
But MLB average, in the 2, upper 2 WAR Range would be about where I put him, with a dip down to the upper 1’s when he reaches his FA years.
According to B-Ref
He’s only at 0.3 WAR so far, which means he’s underperforming (and fairly significantly), even by your standards. He’d need a 0.6 WAR at this point to be on pace for your projection.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Your math confuses me
I’ll just leave it at that.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
He has a 1 WAR right now according to FanGraphs
x 4 = 4 WAr for the season, which would be about double what he was projected to have.
There's part of our problem
That’s a massive difference in value – 0.3 vs. 1 WAR. I’m guessing FanGraphs has been significantly overvaluing his defense.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Could be
but its not out of the question to rely on them for value driven information.
Also, a lot of the shifting the defense has done this year may be adding to that defensive value. This is kind of a false indicator, but it still would mean he is getting to balls and turning them into outs. Put him in a vaccum and he’s probably a negative defender.
Agreed.
I think a couple of the Brewers’ infielders (most likely Fielder and McGehee) may end up with some bizarre defensive numbers this year because of the shifts.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Shifts are supposed to be thrown out in UZR.
I am sure some still get counted though. This leads to either the shifts being counted and the numbers looking higher than they should or to few plays to really show anything of value.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Have three infielders on the right side...it gets dropped.
Position McGehee a few steps to one side or the other and it’s not going to be dropped.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Wouldn't a .03 WAR put him at 1.2 for the season?
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
It's not regression, and I'll tell you why
Because he’s being stupid on the bases, on defense, and with the bat. I’m not sure what’s been distracting him, but he wasn’t season-ready in April. When he tunes up, he’ll hit like normal. It’s not age, it’s conditioning.
He shaved his beard back down a week or so ago
It’s back to that little tuft of hair on his chin.
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Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I'm hoping we get another PETCO-aided Gallardo start like his last one there
2-1 win, Yo and Weeks hit solo HRs for all the scoring we needed.
It was great to see
the bullpen make it out to Friday night’s scuffle, but it just made me miss Todd Coffey.
luckily Estrada has filled in that role quite nicely
I don’t agree with the decision to jet Coffey, I miss that guy a lot too
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
Did he sprint out to the Weeks/Cedeno "brawl"?
It didn’t look like anyone was moving faster than anyone else (which wasn’t very fast). Coffey could have made it out there while there was still a reason to be out there.
by junyer_mint on May 16, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
one of my favorite Coffey moments was when he sprinted out there during a brawl
same way he always ran out to the mound, faster than anyone else, too
dunno why but I always found it really funny
"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan
The Brewers record listed on the right side of the page (above the standings) is listed as 19-21-3
Is there a reason for that?
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Oy. Now I remember why I rarely cruise these threads during breaks at work.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 16, 2011 11:03 AM CDT reply actions
Yes.
Very clever.
Are you a member of PETA?
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on May 16, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Given that one of their offshoot orgs made a blanket death threat that covered one of my family members at her job
nope
by PagsBrewCrew on May 16, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
The ALF once trashed a place where I worked
Using mice for research thing, up at the U of MN. Was odd walking into work that day with the FBI crawling all over the place.
Because sometimes people post stuff that is very vague?
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by Jeo on May 16, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I have been around awhile, so apprently I am just ignorent
because I dont get it
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Lucroy is confused because he didn’t recognize the guy giving him a high-five. RR has the same problem when he decides who to play in the OF when the starters are out.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
In Wisconsin?
They announced a list of Midwestern/Eastern seaboard states that were going back up, but Wisconsin wasn’t among tehm.
Whoops - I'm in Illinois, didn't realize it was state by state rollout
Will probably be up for at least a couple days before it gets hacked again
Get a ife broseph
Mine was back up yesterday.
I was able to watch the Brewers game live on the big screen.
That’s probably because they brought up the West Coast servers sooner than others.
Cool
A friend of mine just got a photo assignment to snap pictures of Marcus Hanel at Miller Park, and she asked me to be her assistant, haha.
He is a very nice man
If you are a Christian, you and he will have tons to talk about. And if not, he may try to convert you (j/k).
you could talk about Baseball
or do baseball players not like to talk about baseball. I have never really talked to a professional baseball player
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I think that when you do that with a professional baseball player
It either comes off as gushing, or depending on the conversation, as a guy who doesnt know what they are talking about.
I try to avoid talking about a professional's profession.
Unless I have an intimate and immediate understanding of it, as well as something informative and insightful to contribute. Especially since it’s a professional shoot, I doubt there’ll be much chit-chat, anyhow.
This is all assuming I can get out of my real job for that day to go play at the stadium.
You might not be able to say
but what kind of professional photo shoot requires Marcus Hanel?
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He sounds like he might be a guy I wouldn't mind meeting.
Of course, that probably will never happen.
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- molitorfan
He has a fund raiser every year down in Racine
that is open to the public. And again, if you are a Christian, he LOVES talking about that, or at least he did when I last saw him. Granted I met him in that context though.
Just heard Aroldis Chapman went on DL.
That will hurt the Reds a little.
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- molitorfan
Ouch....
I only remebered what he did before and during the last series against the Brewers. It looks like he went downhill fast after that.
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Rach
good rant, but it is spelled DirecTV.
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