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Some things to read while taking yourself out.

The Brewers picked up another win yesterday to improve to 13-6 at home but nearly fell victim to the curse of "one bad inning." Zack Greinke had faced the minimum through four frames but needed 47 pitches to complete the fifth as five Pirate runs crossed the plate, trimming a 6-0 Brewer lead to 6-5. Ron Roenicke said the Brewers considered the possibility that Greinke might have been tipping his pitches during his rough inning

It was a pretty good homestand for a lot of Brewers but Jonathan Lucroy probably had the best week, hitting .500/.526/1.000 with five extra base hits in five games. Nick Petakas of The Brewers Bar is starting the campaign to get Lucroy to the All Star Game.

Other notes from the field:

Meanwhile, here's a note on what didn't happen yesterday: Brewer batters were not hit by a pitch for the 15th consecutive game, and Plunk Everyone notes that it's their longest streak since 1996.

Tim Dillard also didn't make his 2011 debut. He was called up on Saturday when Brandon Kintzler's sore triceps finally forced him to go on the DL (FanShot).Adam McCalvy says Dillard is the most likable human being he's ever met. Apparently he also had no idea the promotion was coming.

I mentioned this in Friday's game thread, but I'll bring it up again: After a weekend of watching and hearing Clint Hurdle, I'm happy he's not managing the Brewers and even more excited to have him at the helm of a division opponent. Here's what he told Rob Biertempfel of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review about statistics:

"Playing it by the book covers your backside," Hurdle said. "But I decided early on I didn’t want to look back and say, ‘That stat sheet got me.’ The scouting report is important, but I do think that sometimes we get too analytical."

...

"Something new always pops up," Hurdle said. "The challenge I have, looking at all those obscure numbers, is those numbers were all crunched with no human emotion involved."

Looking forward, the Brewers are in Los Angeles this morning getting ready to open a quick two game series against the Dodgers tonight. Joey Nowak of MLB.com has the preview.

Zach Braddock could rejoin the team in LA today, but at this point the decision has not been announced. A whirlwind West Coast trip might not be the best thing for a guy with a sleep disorder.

Zack Greinke's April and May have opened a fair number of eyes to the pitfalls of potentially dangerous offseason activities. Hangwith'em Rach has a look at the Brewers most likely to be injured by their hobbies.

Speaking of Greinke, he's on the road with the team this week but will fly home early to get a good night's sleep before Friday's start against the Rockies. Since the final game of the trip is a 9 pm Thursday start in San Diego, the rest of the team might not get back to Milwaukee until after sunrise Friday morning.

By the way, allowing San Diego to schedule getaway-day night games is absolutely asinine. This "four day, two city" trip would be bad enough without having to deal with four straight 9 pm starts.

Elsewhere in stupid things:

  • First base ump Brian O'Nora demonstrated a lack of professionalism by staring down Rickie Weeks after calling him out on a check swing yesterday. I screenshotted it, in case you missed it.
  • Because Fox has decided to start televising night games instead of afternoon games on Saturdays and no other games can be televised during their window, Saturday's Brewers-Rockies game will not be on TV.
  • Hangwith'em Rach documented her issues attempting to explain blackout policies to the people at DirecTV who are supposed to understand them.

Yovani Gallardo will pitch the first game of the Padres series on Wednesday. Over the weekend he won our Brewer of the Week voting for the second time this season.

Even with last week's impressive home showing, the Brewers are still one of baseball's least productive offenses in May. Baseball In-Depth notes that the Brewers were fifth in OPS in April and 25th in May, making them one of seven teams to drop ten spots or more.

In the minors:

If you'd like more Brewer content this morning but you're sick of reading, Todd Rosiak of the JS has a video blog discussing Sunday's win and this week's road trip.

If you missed it over the weekend, you really should go back and read sicklebeat's Brief Story of Redemption. I won't spoil the ending, but I gained a fair amount of respect for Doug Melvin reading it.

Around baseball:

Braves: Placed pitcher Brandon Beachy on the DL with an oblique injury.
Dodgers: Placed reliever Blake Hawksworth on the DL with a groin strain.
Mariners: Claimed pitcher Jeff Gray off waivers from the White Sox.
Nationals: Designated pitcher Brian Broderick for assignment.
Padres: Pitcher Randy Flores has opted out of his minor league contract and is now a free agent.
Pirates: Released pitcher Scott Olsen.
Rangers: Placed outfielder Julio Borbon on the DL with a hamstring injury.
Tigers: Placed outfielder Magglio Ordonez on the DL with an ankle injury.
Twins: Placed reliever Jose Mijares on the DL with an elbow injury and designated catcher Steve Holm for assignment.

This weekend's sweep brought the Brewers back to third place and within four games of the now division leading Reds, who swept the Cardinals over the weekend. You know that and much more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central.

Today in former Brewers:

We're halfway through May and offense still hasn't picked up in 2011. Cybermetrics notes that the NL is hitting just .248/.320./.379 in the month.

One of the best things about my daily search for Mug content is the random stuff I learn but otherwise never would have known. Gaslamp Ball, for example, has a post today on PETA's "Boycott PETCO" brick outside PETCO Park. I also would not have known that the Rays have baseball's first eunuch mascot.

Over the winter I mentioned the Indians "Snow Days" promotion, where they turned their park into a giant winter playground, and wondered why more teams don't do something similar. Here's why: The team ended up having to re-sod the entire outfield, and now it doesn't drain as well. The Indians were rained out at home twice this weekend.

Today in baseball economics: The Mets are just now starting to make payments on over $30 million owed to Bobby Bonilla because of deferred salary from 1999. It would've cost them $5.9 million to pay him off then, but they deferred it at 8% annual interest instead.

Thankfully the Brewers aren't on this list: Jason Brannon of SBNation.com has visual evidence of the 20 ugliest caps licensed by Major League Baseball.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to return Jon Miller's pants.

Drink up.

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No mention of Bautista's 3 HR day?

I mean, holy crap, that was incredible; he now has one less HR in Target Field than the Twins do combined!!

Can you imagine if he had been healthy the whole year??? Wowwwwww

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 9:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, he's been a beast.

Beltran had a 3 HR game the other night as well.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on May 16, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's getting to the point where you honestly wonder if Bautista could break the HR record

for a single season, if he plays 150+ games

he’s definitely on pace to do it and really does not seem to be slowing down

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

hate to say it

but the first thing I think when I look at Bautista’s pre- and post-Jays numbers is PED.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on May 16, 2011 10:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I understand how anabolic steroids work.

His ISO was .357 last year…nearly double anything he had ever done in his career prior in a big sample size.

That would be what we call an exception to the rule.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on May 16, 2011 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course he's on steroids

He’s just good at pissin’

by nullacct on May 16, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pitch tipping

it sounds like RR was suggesting that he was tipping his pitches to the opposing dugout. What the hell would that do? The batter can’t exactly look into the dugout to see what the pitch is and then refocus on the ball in time to hit it. The only ways that pitch tipping makes sense is a) the batter seeing the tip himself b) having a signal coming from up the middle (which isn’t going to happen for a visiting team) c) major league esque catcher saying “here comes a fastball” d) wireless radio receivers in the batter’s helmet (is this allowed in MLB?)

by PagsBrewCrew on May 16, 2011 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought he meant that he couldn't see if Greinke was tipping

Because he was in the 1B dugout and couldn’t get a good view.

The opposing team would be able to see better from their dugout, and alert their batters on what to look for.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What I got from his comments, is that Ron couldn't tell if he was tipping his pitches, because he was looking at Greinke's back.

If he was looking at his front, he’d have a better idea if Greinke was doing something to tip his pitches.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on May 16, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i'm vegan, and i dislike peta.

i find their tactics to be heavy-handed and mostly counter productive.

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on May 16, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like to challenge myself

I try to see how many different animals I can consume in a single burger

I think that 5 might be the most I have had = beef, bacon, ham, egg (it counts because it is chicken), and bratwurst.

by BrewCrewBrian on May 16, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bacon and Ham

Did the deli tell you something we don’t know?

by nullacct on May 16, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's probably three animals....

Depending on what the bratwurst was made from. Chances are it comes from the same animal as either the beef or the bacon & ham.

Of course, for all I know it was made from something like lamb, and then it is four.

"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan

by -JP- on May 16, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give you... The Ark Burger!

Chicken Schnitzel, egg, pineapple, bacon, scotch fillet steak, beef patty, cheese, BBQ chicken, tomato and onion. As far as I can tell, it’s still only 3 animals, in total, however.

by mpbMKE on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Brewers scored 17 runs during their road trip (only 9 in their 8 losses)

but 40 during the homestand.

I understand variance and all but this is just astonishing.

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

wow, this Betancourt quote sucks

Betancourt entered Sunday’s game hitting 5-for-37 in May with no walks, giving him a .135 average and a .128 OBP for the month. For the season, Betancourt was batting .225 with a .250 OBP.

“He always has [had a low on-base mark],” Roenicke said. “He’s a swinger. He’s not going to hit .230. What happens with him is he’ll hit .270, .280 and his on-base is going to be [in the] low .300s.”

Can’t Brewers coaches ask Betancourt to try taking some pitches?

“They have before, and he gets defensive and his at-bats aren’t as good,” Roenicke said. “That was the problem in Seattle; they approached him that way. Last year [in Kansas City], they didn’t and he had a very good offensive year. They let him be himself.”

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Sigh.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on May 16, 2011 9:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And double sigh:

I failed to sigh about the part where the problem in Seattle was that THEY TRIED TO COACH HIM.

Blarg.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on May 16, 2011 10:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I sort of see his point

If Seattle tried to drastically rebuild his entire plate approach, it could make him worse than he already is (yes, that is possible).

The rest of that just seems like RR trying to stick up for his player.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

so what do they do?

Start Counsell twice a week to “minimize” the damage? Pick up someone at the deadline?

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno.

Doesn’t seem like it’s something that can be fixed this year.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on May 16, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on May 16, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's, um, optimistic, Ron.

Yuni hasn’t had a BA at .270 or an OBP in the low .300s since 2008, and even then, his OBP was .300 even.

by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't fight heart with facts!

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on May 16, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's talking about the good month that Yuni is going to have at some point...

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by Yar Nivek on May 16, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

"obscure numbers" crunched with "no human emotion"

sigh. i can’t think of too many other professions where management is allowed to blatantly and ignorantly disregard statistical analysis in favor of gut feelings and heart and grit.

I blame that on Kotsay.

by MKEtotheATX on May 16, 2011 9:56 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

That quote is bonkers.

Ignoring statistics that can provide context for your decisions is akin to not caring whether the pitcher warming up in the pen is a lefty or a righty. 90% of the time statistics are just going to confirm what is already obvious. Sabermetic stats tell us that Pujols is a great hitter, no surprise. Stats are valuable in that 10% of the time where perception is deceiving and some context can give you a more rounded viewpoint.

by Bernie's Mustache Wax on May 16, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting to me is that their GM (whose name I can not recall) is a big proponent of sabermetrics. I wonder why he would hire a guy that didn’t think the same way.

Of course, Melvin hired a couple of guys that differ a bit philosophically

by grant76 on May 16, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not quite so important for a rebuilding team.

If you’re not expected to win, playing the matchups isn’t terribly important, but making sure you give your youngsters as many chances to play as possible, and making sure you’re catching the mechanical adjustments they can make to improve their stats is.

But yeah, if you have a contender, you want a guy who’s willing to delve deep into those stats to give his team the best chance to win NOW.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on May 16, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Callis Quote

More of the same from the Brewer draft team is what this appears to me. Some nice tools there especially power, but not the guy that would be ideal for the 15th pick.

The rumored guy they are “hot and heavy for” for that #12 pick could be disastrous as well (Tyler Guierreri).

Not a good sign, imo, that the SD/Department is heading in the right direction.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Who do you want to see, and why?

Not trying to be pushy or rude or anything, I just know nothing about these draft picks.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on May 16, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

For me

Most of the top shelf talent will be gone when the Brewers pick at #12 and #15, but there will still be plenty of potential impact players there.

The reason that I am not big on either Guirrieri or Green is that both of them have come out of nowhere this year, and not that that is a bad thing by itself, but those guys tend to flame out (Eric Arnett ring any bells)?

Guirrieri has potential ace stuff with a mid 90s fastball and a nice breaking ball as well, but the changeup isnt really there yet, and you never really know if will ever get there. He reminds me a lot of Jeffress at the same age, who I also was not high on, and felt that when the Brewers took him it was an over draft.

And Greene has big power potential and has the football player type body. But he really only has the one tool maybe could get to 2 at some point. Again, it is a non protected pick, but taking a guy 20 or maybe even 30 spots too early just because its a safe sign, well, thats just not good planning imo.

I would prefer to see Matt Barnes, RHP, UConn with the 15th pick. He has the same stuff as Guierriri, exccept has the polish and experience that TG does not. The only thing he lacks is consistency. He would be 2 to 3 years closer to MLB roster and is more of a certainty. He will want a nice signing bonus, but you wont have a hard time signing him, so they dont have to worry about losing the guy. They could also go with 1B CJ Cron of Utah, who is a big bat first baseman who also can play catcher but has been limited to !B this year because of injury. Again, he has the experience and can prove he can hit good pitching (above a guy like Greene) and even though he is a C his bat can play at 1B.

At that #12 pick I would go a bit more risky with Blake Swihart, a switch hitting catcher who has power and all of the defensive skills to stick and play a good MLB catcher. He would have a higher ceiling than a guy like Lucroy does.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

What about Francisco Lindor?

Our farm system could really use a SS, but I’ve heard mixed reports about him.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on May 16, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would LOVE Lindor

But he is a top 10 pick most likely. Some people think even top 5.

There’s word out there even that the Pirates may even take Dylan Bundy over Cole or Rendon, which would lead me to believe that if people are worried in that way about the two best prospects in the draft, might be driving up the value of HS players (such as Guerreri or Greene). This would be good for Lindor as well.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I personally wouldn't put any stock in what scouts and such are saying at this point.

Not on on draft predictions like this. I don’t remember once hearing last season that the Crew was interested in Covey. It’s just speculation right now. I’m sure they’re very interested in a number of players, but that doesn’t mean they’re going to draft them.

My goodness.

by BrewHaHeather on May 16, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Friday's Sausage Race

I was at the game on Friday… and the Hot Dog won the race.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on May 16, 2011 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Pitching matchups for road trip

Nice that the Brewers miss Kershaw and Billingsley this week. The two Padre pitchers they get – Harang and Mosley- have both struggled lately.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

the Padres offense has been on fire since the Tuesday game though

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Petco might fix that.

Actually, a park that big, with as little power as the Padres have, might actually help them..

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on May 16, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thankfully

Going to keep needing good luck in that respect in order to climb out of the hole they created

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

may schedule looks pretty friendly though

they need to be playing their best ball in June, if they can get into July at .500 or better they should be able to make a run

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah it definitely helps

All 3 of those games against the Pirates hurt the Pythagorean W-L. Gallardo and Greinke’s starts might not have been W’s with teams that hit.

They havent really changed pace from where they were a couple of weeks ago. They are producting like a 95 win team, but are 2 games under .500. If you believed like I did that they are an 88 win team, if they get to .500 and play at .543 ball the rest of the way, they wind up with 86 wins.

Probably some regression due from Braun, Fielder, Weeks, Gomez, McGehee Lucroy, with increase from Hart. And then on the pitching side regression due from Marcum and Narveson with improvement from Gallardo, Greinke and Wolf.

Here’s a good topic for discussion: Who do you think has outperformed the most so far this year? The answer is Carlos Gomez, who is on pace for a 4.8 WAR season. (1.2 × 4 (quarter of the way through the season right now).

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gomez? Nearly 5 WAR?

blows brains out

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its not out of the question

But I see your point. Either way, he’s a regression candidate.

How much would OV freak if they saw a 28 UZR guy in CF of all places, and a -6 bat?

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

according to WAR he's actually the 5th best player on the team

the others are Braun, Fielder, Weeks, and Marcum

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

McGehee's OPS so far is 50 points lower than last year and 100 points lower than 2009

And you still think he’s going to regress even from that? Or are you just talking about regression on defense?

by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

MAybe regression to the mean.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on May 16, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

And the defense question.

Do you really believe that he is an 800 OPS guy? It took a huge week from bad pitching to get him to a decent level. Much like I felt about JJ Hardy in 08, I feel the same way about McGehee now.

Most projection systems, as well as scouting, believe the guy is going to regress. I’m not alone in this belief.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still want to know when it's no longer "regressing"

He’s had two years of productive major league experience. If he happens to have an OPS of .800 by the All-Star Break is he still in danger of “regressing?” How many seasons does it take for a poor season to be a “down year” rather than a regression?

by ecocd on May 16, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha, sort of my thinking as well

Feel like he’ll fall apart in 2018 and there will be a bunch of talk about how he finally regressed

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

A lot of people were talking about Braun regressing last year.

And how he was “past his prime.” Granted, they were mostly Cubs fans.

by mpbMKE on May 16, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

And to anyone who was saying so

I pointed out that he had an injured elbow and would return to form shortly. Which he did.

by nullacct on May 16, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

A person is smart.

People are dumb, panicky animals and you know it.

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by Yar Nivek on May 16, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I defer again to my feelings on JJ Hardy in 2008

Of course I dont know how it works with other players from other teams, but things tend to even out in this game. And scouts and scouting reports are usually correct.

That being said, if he finishes the year with a .750 or so OPS I wouldnt really call it a down year, as the start of something, given his age, and skill set. Again, my opinion, but I’m not the only one with it.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be curious what his current scouting report says

After changing some parts of his swing and approach from his time in the minors. That would matter a bit more to me than something from a few years ago.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guys change thigs every year.

We hear almost every year when a guy does better how the change he made over the offseason is helping him this year. I don’t expect McGehee to be much more than a .750-.780 OPS guy going forward.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on May 16, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably right about where I'd expect him to be as well

His minor league scouting report probably had him worse than that, which is why I’d be curious in hearing a professional report since he changed his swing in 2008.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

My guess is it would be much worse.

If I remember correctly in his best minor league years he was around .770 OPS.

Never mind, I just looked it up. A .750 OPS based on his MiLB numbers is pretty generous.(.693/.704/.776/.742/.729/.774) Pretty ugly really.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on May 16, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not too outlandish to say the guy is outperforming`

A guy on pace for 64 HR is obviously playing out of his head right now. He is on pace to perform at a rate 3 times that of league average.

If I were to put a projection on him going forward, I would put him in the 8 WAR Range for the season. He is on pace right now for a 15.6 WAR season.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get that he's supposed to regress (obviously, he already has)

I just wonder how much further you expect him to drop. The guy’s not going to turn into Yuniesky Betancourt at the plate.

by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No not that bad

But MLB average, in the 2, upper 2 WAR Range would be about where I put him, with a dip down to the upper 1’s when he reaches his FA years.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to B-Ref

He’s only at 0.3 WAR so far, which means he’s underperforming (and fairly significantly), even by your standards. He’d need a 0.6 WAR at this point to be on pace for your projection.

by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I look at FanGraphs

.3 would be right no track, only a bit under

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has a 1 WAR right now according to FanGraphs

x 4 = 4 WAr for the season, which would be about double what he was projected to have.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's part of our problem

That’s a massive difference in value – 0.3 vs. 1 WAR. I’m guessing FanGraphs has been significantly overvaluing his defense.

by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Could be

but its not out of the question to rely on them for value driven information.

Also, a lot of the shifting the defense has done this year may be adding to that defensive value. This is kind of a false indicator, but it still would mean he is getting to balls and turning them into outs. Put him in a vaccum and he’s probably a negative defender.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I think a couple of the Brewers’ infielders (most likely Fielder and McGehee) may end up with some bizarre defensive numbers this year because of the shifts.

by Cheeseandcorn on May 16, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shifts are supposed to be thrown out in UZR.

I am sure some still get counted though. This leads to either the shifts being counted and the numbers looking higher than they should or to few plays to really show anything of value.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on May 16, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have three infielders on the right side...it gets dropped.

Position McGehee a few steps to one side or the other and it’s not going to be dropped.

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by Yar Nivek on May 16, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't a .03 WAR put him at 1.2 for the season?

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on May 16, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

Which is just a bit lower than what PECOTA had projected for him pre season.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not regression, and I'll tell you why

Because he’s being stupid on the bases, on defense, and with the bat. I’m not sure what’s been distracting him, but he wasn’t season-ready in April. When he tunes up, he’ll hit like normal. It’s not age, it’s conditioning.

by nullacct on May 16, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was great to see

the bullpen make it out to Friday night’s scuffle, but it just made me miss Todd Coffey.

by junyer_mint on May 16, 2011 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

luckily Estrada has filled in that role quite nicely

I don’t agree with the decision to jet Coffey, I miss that guy a lot too

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by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did he sprint out to the Weeks/Cedeno "brawl"?

It didn’t look like anyone was moving faster than anyone else (which wasn’t very fast). Coffey could have made it out there while there was still a reason to be out there.

by junyer_mint on May 16, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

one of my favorite Coffey moments was when he sprinted out there during a brawl

same way he always ran out to the mound, faster than anyone else, too

dunno why but I always found it really funny

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by JAMOOL on May 16, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seemed like a waste of time to me.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on May 16, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Brewers record listed on the right side of the page (above the standings) is listed as 19-21-3

Is there a reason for that?

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by -JP- on May 16, 2011 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Wins-Losses-Streak?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on May 16, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have been around awhile, so apprently I am just ignorent

because I dont get it

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by Jeo on May 16, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same here.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on May 16, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weird, but not weird.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on May 16, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pic

Lucroy is confused because he didn’t recognize the guy giving him a high-five. RR has the same problem when he decides who to play in the OF when the starters are out.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on May 16, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

For any MLB.tv/PS3 users...

Playstation Network back up and running this morning

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

In Wisconsin?

They announced a list of Midwestern/Eastern seaboard states that were going back up, but Wisconsin wasn’t among tehm.

by mpbMKE on May 16, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whoops - I'm in Illinois, didn't realize it was state by state rollout

Will probably be up for at least a couple days before it gets hacked again

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on May 16, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mine was back up yesterday.

I was able to watch the Brewers game live on the big screen.

That’s probably because they brought up the West Coast servers sooner than others.

by Brew Angel on May 16, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cool

A friend of mine just got a photo assignment to snap pictures of Marcus Hanel at Miller Park, and she asked me to be her assistant, haha.

by mpbMKE on May 16, 2011 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

He is a very nice man

If you are a Christian, you and he will have tons to talk about. And if not, he may try to convert you (j/k).

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

you could talk about Baseball

or do baseball players not like to talk about baseball. I have never really talked to a professional baseball player

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by Jeo on May 16, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that when you do that with a professional baseball player

It either comes off as gushing, or depending on the conversation, as a guy who doesnt know what they are talking about.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I try to avoid talking about a professional's profession.

Unless I have an intimate and immediate understanding of it, as well as something informative and insightful to contribute. Especially since it’s a professional shoot, I doubt there’ll be much chit-chat, anyhow.

This is all assuming I can get out of my real job for that day to go play at the stadium.

by mpbMKE on May 16, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You might not be able to say

but what kind of professional photo shoot requires Marcus Hanel?

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by Jeo on May 16, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know.

Pretty sure it’s for Milwaukee Magazine, though.

by mpbMKE on May 16, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He sounds like he might be a guy I wouldn't mind meeting.

Of course, that probably will never happen.

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by -JP- on May 16, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has a fund raiser every year down in Racine

that is open to the public. And again, if you are a Christian, he LOVES talking about that, or at least he did when I last saw him. Granted I met him in that context though.

by backtocali on May 16, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just heard Aroldis Chapman went on DL.

That will hurt the Reds a little.

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by -JP- on May 16, 2011 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Ouch....

I only remebered what he did before and during the last series against the Brewers. It looks like he went downhill fast after that.

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by -JP- on May 16, 2011 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rach

good rant, but it is spelled DirecTV.

Celebrating the addition of Greinke and mourning the loss of my man crush Cain

by molitorfan on May 16, 2011 7:13 PM CDT reply actions  

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