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by Kyle Lobner on May 26, 2011 11:26 AM CDT
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PrintSome things to read while getting pink eye from a skunk.
Before I get started, I wanted to take a moment to thank Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar for spending the morning filling in for me yesterday. Jaymes did a great job (as always), and I'd encourage you to check out more of his work at The Brewers Bar, if you haven't already.
The Brewers are hot, but this week that hasn't prevented them from making moves to improve the team. After yesterday's game the Brewers announced they've claimed infielder Josh Wilson from the Diamondbacks, moving Takashi Saito to the 60-day DL to make room (FanShot). Jordan has a great reaction post here, noting that Wilson really isn't anything special but it doesn't take much to be an improvement over Yuniesky Betancourt.
Wilson is 30 years old and the Brewers will be his sixth major league team. He went 2-for-10 with a double before being designated for assignment by the Diamondbacks, and is a career .227/.280/.315 hitter. He's primarily a shortstop but has also played some second and third base. He doesn't play short exceptionally well (-6.6 UZR/150 for his career), but his flexibility gives the Brewers some options.
With Wilson expected to be in uniform tomorrow, Nyjer Morgan expected to be activated off the DL and Zach Braddock close to returning, the Brewers have a lot of roster moves to make before tomorrow's series opener with the Giants. Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker wonders if this might be the end of the road for Craig Counsell.
Zack Greinke had another solid start yesterday, allowing three runs (on a Michael Morse home run) over seven innings with a walk and a season-high ten strikeouts. All anyone really wants to talk about this morning, though, is his home run. It was the second of his career and gave the Brewers a 4-3 lead in the fifth. Here's more about it:
- Big League Stew talked to Greinke about hitting back in 2009, and has a link to the video of yesterday's shot.
- Greinke is only the third active pitcher who has homered for both an AL and an NL team. CC Sabathia is one of the others.
- Greinke's parents were in attendance yesterday.
Greinke, by the way, is the end result of this MLB Trade Tree stemming from the Carlos Lee deal.
With John Axford having pitched four times in five days, Kameron Loe recorded yesterday's final four outs for his first save of the season and the second of his career. The other one came on August 6, 2005 as a member of the Rangers.
Other notes from the field:
- Prince Fielder, Zack Greinke and Kameron Loe are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game voting.
- Mark Kotsay started in center yesterday for the second straight game and went 0-for-3 with a walk. He's now 1-for-12 with said walk on the homestand.
- The sweep in Milwaukee finished off a 1-7 road trip for the Nats.
- Todd Coffey pitched at Miller Park yesterday for the first time since being non-tendered this winter, allowing an unearned run on one hit over 1.1 innings. The Brewers busted out his old "Coffey time" logo and theme music for the occasion.
- The Italian won the sausage race with a season-best time of 17.82 seconds.
Yesterday's win improved the Brewers' home record to 19-6 on the season. Tom Haudricourt notes that they were 8-16 after 24 home games in 2010, and this start is the best in franchise history. Hangwith'em Rach awarded this week's El Super to Miller Park.
Looking back a couple of days, the Brewers have had a fair number of home run trots to discuss this week. Larry Granillo of Baseball Prospectus timed Corey Hart, Rickie Weeks and Jonathan Lucroy's home runs from Tuesday at 23.31, 22.49 and 21.17 seconds, respectively. Hart's three home runs on Monday clocked in at (in order) 21.82, 23.07 and 22.3 seconds.
Elsewhere in the recent past: Plunk Everyone has a roundup of HBP activity from Monday (Rickie Weeks) and Tuesday (Prince Fielder and Mike McClendon).
Tim Dillard got another day of rest yesterday. If you cross out "Jeff Gray" and write Dillard's name into this Lookout Landing post it becomes a hilarious Brewer-relevant read.
It's possibile Dillard will be on his way back to Nashville by the time the Brewers and Giants open a three game series tomorrow night. John Shlegel of MLB.com has the preview.
Tomorrow night is College Night at Miller Park, and unfortunately too many of us know what that frequently means. SgtClueLs is quoted in this AP story about the problems caused by drunkenness in ballparks.
In the minors:
- Zach Braddock's late scratch from Monday's scheduled rehab appearance with Wisconsin had nothing to do with his sleep disorder: He had a cracked nail. The team sent him to a manicurist and the problem seems to have passed.
- In this week's All Questions Answered thread, John Sickels of Minor League Ball predicted a .278/.355/.410 career MLB line for Erik Komatsu, said he's very concerned about Mark Rogers, said Nick Shaw's high OBP is unlikely to carry him to the big leagues, and selected Zelous Wheeler as the best Brewer prospect to write a joke question about Brewer prospects in All Questions Answered threads.
- Bernie's Crew has updated their list of the top 30 prospects in the Brewer organization, moving Scooter Gennett up to #1.
- The affiliates went 1-1 yesterday, with Brock Kjeldgaard going 2-for-3 with a walk, stolen base and home run in Brevard County's 6-3 win over Palm Beach. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- Eric Farris played shortstop for Nashville on Monday. It was his fifth appearance at the position this season.
- Elsewhere in Nashville, Nick Petakas of The Brewers Bar has a look at Mat Gamel's long wait for a major league opportunity.
- Moments like this are part of the reason Gamel is still there: Toby Harmann of You Know And That chronicled a couple of failed rundowns by Gamel and George Kottaras in a recent Sounds game.
- Wisconsin was rained out in Peoria last night as severe thunderstorms chased the players, fans and broadcasters into tunnels under the stadium. Rattler Radio has a slideshow.
The Brewers escaped notice in the first installment, but they couldn't hide forever: Jason Brannon of SBNation.com has found eleven more ugly baseball caps for sale and one of them features the Barrelman.
I think they'll have a little easier time escaping this: Phil Wood of MASN thinks the Brewers should be moved back to the AL for reasons of fairness.
In power rankings:
- Paul Swydan of FanGraphs has the Brewers eighth.
- Beyond the Box Score also has the Brewers at eight.
- USA Today has the Brewers 16th, up three spots.
- ESPN also has the Brewers at 16, up three spots.
I guess this is somewhat related: Jim Caple of ESPN listed Mark Attanasio as baseball's 11th best owner.
If you want more Brewer content but you're sick of reading, check out this week's View From Bernie's Chalet podcast. This week's topics include John Axford, Corey Hart and the brewer bench.
Around baseball:
Athletics: Designated pitcher Jerry Blevins for assignment.
Braves: Placed outfielder Nate McLouth on the DL with an oblique strain.
Cubs: Placed pitcher Matt Garza on the DL with a bone contusion in his elbow.
Diamondbacks: Placed pitchers Sam Demel (shoulder tendonitis) and Juan Gutierrez (shoulder inflammation) on the DL.
Dodgers: Designated pitcher Lance Cormier for assignment.
Nationals: Returned Rule 5 pick Brian Broderick to the Cardinals.
Padres: Designated pitcher Samuel Deduno for assignment.
Rays: Claimed pitcher Jay Buente off waivers from the Marlins, designated pitcher Rob Delaney for assignment and placed infielder Elliot Johnson on the DL with a sprained knee.
Tigers: Placed pitcher Phil Coke on the DL with a bone bruise in his right foot and designated pitcher Robbie Weinhardt for assignment.
Twins: Placed pitcher Kevin Slowey on the DL with an abdominal strain.
Yankees: Claimed pitcher Kanekoa Texeira off waivers from the Royals.
Last night's big story around baseball came from Philadelphia, where the Phillies beat the Reds in a 19 inning, 6:11 marathon. Of course, you know all about that game and much more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central.
Today in former Brewers:
- Carlos Villanueva made a spot start for the Blue Jays on Monday and allowed just one run on two hits over five innings, walking one and striking out five. He has a 1.53 ERA on the season.
- The B-Ref Blog notes that Paul Molitor had a career .326 batting average on balls in play, eighth most among 22 players with 2975 or more hits. Robin Yount's .303 was 14th, and Hank Aaron's .291 was 19th.
Here's an interesting historical note today: The Braves beat the Pirates last night to improve to 28-19 on the season, and are now .500 as a franchise for the first time since 1923. (h/t Rowland's Office) The Brewers would have to win 300+ consecutive games to match that feat.
I don't know whether to file this under "some people have all the fun," or just "weird:" The Rays have and have announced dress up plans for several upcoming road trips.
Today in baseball economics: The Mets are scrambling to spin and cover after owner Fred Wilpon told reporters the team might slash payroll by up to 30% before next season.
It's relevant to nothing Brewer related, but this Baseball Past and Present story about a fishing trip with Ted Williams is worth a read anyway.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to have a word with the children.
Drink up.
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He was arguing Brewers to AL central, Royals to the west.
by BrewCrewBrian on May 26, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed, but...
I think they’d have a much easier time giving Prince a long-term deal in a league where he could eventually DH.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on May 26, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
AND they'd have a place for Mat Gamel!!!
sigh
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on May 26, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
They already have a place for Gamel
The National League has the DL too
If I didn't know better, I'd think the Brewers were a halfway decent baseball team...
by Tepo6688 on May 27, 2011 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
From the SB nation article to the right
“It won’t be a surprise if the Giants look to the trade market for a catcher, though.”
Hey, the brewers have a crapload of catchers!! Just not Luc
Also: Posey to the DL for the year (most likely)
Giants bring up Brandon Belt and Chris Stewart to fill his roster spot.
Maybe this was already in the mug? I didn’t see it, but I read it pretty fast.
Wait, they had to bring up two guys to fill Posey's roster spot?
I suppose he could occupy two spots…
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on May 26, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
They had somone else go to the DL at the same time
but both players brought up were really to replace Posey: one for offensive production, one for ability as a catcher.
I think Fontenot got hurt too?
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on May 26, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Drafted by the Brewers in the 18th round
but he made his MLB debut with the Giants in 2010. He was a piece of the Ray Durham deal in 2008.
Johnny Estrada could
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker
by ASerd87 on May 26, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
and we play them starting tomorrow
good to get them while they’re in disarray. That injury looked awful though. Poor guy…and poor Giants. Wish him the best of recoveries.
And I do think it’s time they change the rules regarding contact, but then I suppose games will be a hell of a lot higher scoring.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 26, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Trying not to be happy about it.
After all, the same thing could easily happen to the Brewers.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Im honestly bummed out
I have tickets to Saturdays game, and was looking forward to seeing him hit in person for the first time. His injury is a loss to more than just the Giants, its a loss to MLB on the whole. Like if Prince went down for the year, or if Felix Hernandez had his arm chopped off in a freak butchershop accident, the game just isn’t as exciting without him. He’s one of the exciting players to watch right now, regardless of whose team he’s on.
Of course, it sucks double if you’re a giants fan.
Posey is one of the biggest rising stars in MLB
but I wouldn’t really put him at the same level as Fielder or Hernandez.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
How would you propose they change the rules?
The catcher is under no obligation to block the plate. They know the risks of doing it and decide for themselves if it is worth the risk. If they’re going to let the catcher block the plate, they have to allow collisions.
If you notice Lucroy doesn’t block the plate. Granted, half the time he has to move because the throw isn’t very good.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Grat Article about the drinking
Wonder if they went to the Police Departments of those various cities instead of the teams, if the info they were looking for would be available.
I’m a bit surprised that there hasnt ever been a big crackdown on drunken driving after games.
43 South/94 East after the Cubs fans leave Miller would be a good place to start
Most concerned I’ve ever been driving, I feel safer driving on ice than in that crowd of cars.
Where are the trolls when you actually want them?
I recognize that they'd just be doing their jobs, etc.
But stopping cars outside MP to troll for drunk drivers would slow down traffic far beyond the crawl it already is.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on May 26, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
There is some sort of agreement that within a mile or so, of the park, they will not pull over drunk drivers.
It’s an event traffic thing, for the exact reasons Kyle just gave. If you stop a car in line to leave Miller Park, it suddenly takes hours to leave, and people don’t get home til 3am.
That being said, I’m sure cops along the freeways are well aware of what time games are ending, and I’m sure they have their eyes open for carloads of brewers gear.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Always a heavy police presence on 94E after games
Noticed similar thing after Packer games at Lambeau
Get a ife broseph
I wouldnt say a mandatory check point works well
But do like they do on St Patricks Day or New Years Eve. The target demographic is probably just as prevalent after a Brewer, or Packer game as either of those two nights.
Clogging up the parking lot after a game would be the least of the teams concern if they were ever sued because they overserved someone who wound up driving drunk and then killing someone.
Clogging up the parking lot after a game would be the least of the teams concern if they were ever sued because they overserved someone who wound up driving drunk and then killing someone.
Last I checked, Wisconsin doesn’t have a dram shop liability law, so the team/stadium couldn’t be sued in your hypothetical.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Didn't the courts make an example of a bartender for overserving last year?
I’ll be honest, I don’t know what dram shop liability law means.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
is the difference just that the bartender can be charged wtih a misdemeanor, but the establishment cannot be held responsible?
http://www.mlbsoup.com
I don't remember the case you're talking about with the bartender.
But there’s a Wisconsin statute (s. 125.035) that says: “A person is immune from civil liability arising out of the act of procuring alcohol beverages for or selling, dispensing or giving away alcohol beverages to another person.” (There’s an exception if you’re serving someone who’s underage.)
Basically: if a 22-year-old is drinking at a bar, drives home drunk and kills someone on the road, the bartender/bar can’t be sued.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
TC is asking about criminal charges though.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
I know.
I’m trying to find the case he’s talking about now.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Oh, and can you marry your house?
j/k
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
OK, found it.
I think this is it, anyway: link.
Lemme look up the charge on CCAP.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Alright.
That bartender was charged with a violation of Wis. Stat. 125.07(2)(a)1, which makes it a misdemeanor (punishable by a maximum six-month jail term) to sell alcohol to someone who is intoxicated.
I’m gonna be honest: I’ve never heard of that before, and the young lady who’s referred to in that story wasn’t ultimately convicted, so: a criminal prosecution is possible in theory, but it seems that it’s rarely, if ever, used.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
For Criminal court,
wouldn’t you have to establish beyond a reasonable doubt that the bartender knew the patron was already intoxicated? Seems like establishing that might be difficult.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Sorry I left off the word "also"
I knew what you meant.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Civil v. Criminal
That means if a bartender over-serves and the person kills somebody, that person can’t be sued for ‘Wrongful Death’, but criminal charges can be brought against them.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker
What about....
While on the Fiesta Garibadli’s shuttle, someone is way to drunk and throws up on my shoes, ruining them.
Who can I sue?
Get a ife broseph
Kotsay
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
by Yar Nivek on May 26, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've already got a bunch of frivolous suits out against him
That might be an issue.
Get a ife broseph
Frivolous?
He owes you for the pain and suffering. Those are legitimate suits!
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
I believe it is called Fiesta Sports Unlimited, now.
Sounds more like a shooting range.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Always getting confused with Club Garibaldi.
People showing up for concerts that were actually in Bayview.
Bartender
My guess is that bartenders are technically licensed professionals and needs to execute some judgement when serving a patron.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker
I dont know what that means either
But all it takes is an attorney with a microphone in front of him advocating for the family of someone killed by a drunk driver, and the words “Milwaukee Brewers” and “Miller Park” coming out of his mouth, to make the team seriously consider changing its policies.
I get that there is this huge link between baseball and beer, but along with that also comes the risk of drunk driving. Just because people like it, if they dont do it responsibly, defenitely makes it something that is not right.
So you're changing your argument from "They could get sued" to "They could get bad PR"
Get a ife broseph
No, I was unaware that they couldnt be sued
Either way its bad PR.
Luckily I have never had someone close to me struck by a drunk driver. But almost every time I am leaving a game I see at least one person who shouldnt be driving, get in their car and drive away.
There has to be some culpability there.
No Im not changing my argument
I still believe that the team “will have a lot to worry about” if someone were to leave the park and kill someone as the result of drunk driving. Whether they can be sued or held criminally responsible or not.
Time to contact my legislator. Oh wait….
How is this any different...
than any of the lakefront festivals?
I’m guessing that there are far more drunk people leaving Summerfest than a Brewers game.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
All this legal talk is pointless.
In the brutal reality of Wisconsn any punishment will be meted out via hand to hand, honor code based combat. The crowd will insist on doing the wave in the arena.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on May 26, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Great point
Whats the name of the girl who hoarded all of the Lawn Bernies?
She can tell us how it would work out.
Cant see it at work
I meant to look that up last night.
Kind of ridiculous how the media is all over her and how everyone wants to kill her. A little like Sausage Gate and Randall Simon.
It's basically a FB page where people can put all their comments about her
I don’t have any sympathy for her. It’s one thing to take all those gnomes (I’m sure she’s not the only one)… it’s another to post up a picture of them on Twitter. She used social media to “brag” about it… and now social media has turned against her.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on May 26, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's awful
People can feel how they want, but its pretty surprising that so many of the 1250 shows and WTMJ have “liked” that page.
Get a ife broseph
The 1250 guys were bragging yesterday about how they were the first media outlet
to put her real name out there (and they continued to publish it throughout the first couple hours of the program), but then said that things got taken too far when people started listing her home address and phone number. (Of course, when Rick Schlessinger came on, they were suddenly gunshy about publishing her real name, instead referring to her as “the young lady who grabbed 35 Bernies.”)
If you’re going to lather the mob into a frenzy, boys, you have to deal with the consequences. All of ’em.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Leave it to sports radio...
Don’t really get the point of publishing her name and any other personal info.
I’m not sure why an organization would publicly support some of the stuff on that facebook page.
Get a ife broseph
Because it's the popular opinion
and they only care about one thing… ratings.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Well, to be fair, she published her own name on her twitter account.
which is where she bragged about taking all of the Bernies.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
She did, yes.
But they were the ones who broadcast the information to what I can only presume is dozens of dozens of listeners.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Did they let callers say the address and phone number go on air?
Radio stations have a few second delay so they can cut out swear words, they would have been able to cut that if they wanted to.
But yeah, if you’re going to make an issue out of something you can’t be surprised when people make it a big issue.
Get a ife broseph
No, they didn't let people broadcast that information.
It was more: “We told you her real name and social media information so you could publicly shame her, and we’re SHOCKED to learn that people took the 12 seconds to Google her name and find out where she lived and what her phone number was.”
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Ha, of course
Similar to – “We’ve figured out Steve Bartman’s name and where he works, published it and mentioned him non-stop on the radio. Such a shame that people forced him to move out of the Chicago area.”
Get a ife broseph
What Erin did is horrible.
But I wouldn’t go so far as to wishing for her to spend time with a Cubs fan, if you meant get-coffee-and-discuss-life-ruining-mistakes. If you meant romantically, that’s just cruel.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Public transit doesn't take them to their homes
More than likely, they’ll still be driving drunk from the Park & Rides.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Not to mention Sports Service employs the beer vendors.
BTW – I guarantee attendance would go down if it took another 2-3 hrs to get out of the parking lot. Or at least more people would start leaving early.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
But stopping cars outside MP to troll for drunk drivers would slow down traffic far beyond the crawl it already is.
Should also point out: sobriety checkpoints — where cars are stopped without the police observing a traffic violation and/or without reasonable suspicion that the person is operating while intoxicated — are illegal under Wisconsin law.
Last legal lesson of the day, I’ll show myself out.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Not that we didn't already know this
But you’re basically saying that Wisconsin is hands-down the best state to be a drunk in, yes?
If I were Ryan Braun, I'd be really excited to be Ryan Braun, too.
Whoever wrote the Wiki for "achohol laws of Missouri"
Not a fan:
The alcohol laws of Missouri are among the most permissive in the United States, though Nevada’s and Louisiana’s are similar.
Get a ife broseph
Albert writes all of the state's laws. Tony LaRussa is the state's #1 lobbyist.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
It all makes sense now
I had no idea that Missouri actually had that rep, always good to know what states are the best to drink in.
Get a ife broseph
On the flipside, one of the worst states to drink in...
In Kentucky it is a Felony to be intoxicated in public. My brother was just stopping there for the night while driving home from college in FL. He walked to the bar from his hotel and as he left the bar the cops arrested him. He was blasted but had no intention of driving. Ended up spending the weekend in jail and still has to go to court to fight a lengthy jail sentence
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on May 26, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Do they look the other way during the the Kentucky Derby?
Pretty sure that is 100,000 or so intoxicated people in one area.
Get a ife broseph
Yeah, 1 lone college kid doesn’t do enough for the local economy to get them to look the other way like the derby does. Also, Louisville probably has a different standard than Paducah
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on May 26, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Laws regardind dui
I do not recall where they are from, but WI is one of the few states where a DUI offense (first offense) is merely a misdemenor.
Didnt the Journal run a big huge series of articles about how lenient the states drunken driving laws are?
Probably.
The police chief had a huge rant about it last week, after two officers were injured by a drunk driver.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Its all pointless talk anyways
Since once Milwaukee is swallowed up by Chicago (within the next 30 years), it will likely become part of Illinois.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on May 26, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It doesn't matter
We won’t be around to see it happen. At least according to this other guy who has a prophesy…
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
BtC has been right more often than that guy.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Couple of things:
Provided there’s no injuries, your first offense OWI in Wisconsin is a traffic citation, punishable by license revocation of up to nine months, a forfeiture of around $800, attendance at alcohol awareness classes, etc. (You have to get an ignition interlock for a year if your blood-alcohol level is above 0.15, too.) You can’t go to jail (assuming you pay the forfeiture) and it’s not a misdemeanor.
Whether our law is more lenient than those in other states is a matter of debate: from what I’ve heard, for example, even though a first-offense OWI in Illinois is a crime, you can complete some kind of program that, if successful, reduces the charge to a citation. (Again: that’s just anecdotal. Not licensed to practice in Illinois.) In Wisconsin, on the other hand, unless there are VERY compelling circumstances, prosecutors can’t amend first-offense OWI citations to a lesser citation.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Montana is pretty lienient
at least at one time, there wasn’t a prohibition against open containers of alcohol
by PagsBrewCrew on May 26, 2011 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
To be some what fair to the Brewers
With the tailgate culture there isn’t all that much they can do to ensure people aren’t being over served outside the park. Perhaps cops patrolling the lots could arrest some people for public drunkenness. But I’m not sure how effective that would be.
But the bigger issue that the Brewers can control is the serving of hammered people in the stands. I’ve never seen nor been denied beer while in the park, and yes I’ve been obviously well past drunk. My friends brother works for sports service (contracted vendors in MP) and he has denied people beer. But 1/2 the stands are run by volunteers who really could give a shit and give beer out no matter what.
And to be clear here, not to sounds like I’m anti-drinking at games, I have no problem with drunks at games as long as they behave. But some nights, like probably tonight, the drunks get out of control and really brings down the game because of their actions. Heckle.. fine. Cheer.. fine. Do the wave.. I hate you.. but whatever. Start throwing stuff at people, start dumping your beer on people, start being a jerk and they should kick you out. People making MP a giant bar to fight each other is silly.
Mentioned to Ed but didn’t make the article, is that the text the brewers thing works great. I had to use it a few times this season and they get there with in a inning and actually break up fights before they get out of control. Use it often.. Here’s how. Text BREWERS, followed by a space, then their seat/ballpark location and specific concern to 41513
Because knowing is half the battle!
G.I JOE!!!!
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker
Good points
But not quite what litigators really care about.
Deepest pockets and all.
If the team were to contract vendors who arent licensed, or accept money for parking where these activites take place. They should be held liable.
Whoa whoa whoa...
Cell phone service in Miller Park? I don’t believe you.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on May 26, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the heads up
I’m surprised they don’t have a sign with that info posted up. I think it just appears on the scoreboard before the game starts.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Yeah I think that works well
I was in the fourth deck last week and we had to ask some drunk middle aged guys to sit down during the innings a few times and none of us did but I think someone else texted the number because someone came up and asked them to sit down.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
just curious
who is your friend’s brother that works there?
by icecreamman on May 26, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of drunk driving,
After my softball game last week, we had to call the cops on a driver. I’ve never seen anyone driving so out of control. I doubt he even had a clue he was driving a car. When we came upon him, he was sitting in the middle of a riverwest intersection, on Locust, driving west. The light was red, but he was slowly rolling out into the intersection. He then stopped as he crossed more than halfway through. Then he put it in reverse and moved back behind the white line. (Luckily I left a ton of room behind him, otherwise he probably would have smashed into my car as he backed up.) As the light turned green, and he continued to travel west towards the district 5 police station, he kept veering towards the shoulder, and jetting back into his lane. He nearly hit 3 or 4 parked cars. At this point, I had my girlfriend call the police to report him. As we were on the phone, giving a location, he made a last second turn onto the freeway, so we had to be transferred to the sheriff’s dept. As we were talking to the dispatcher, he cut across 3 lanes, before drifting into the inside shoulder, and smacking against the median barrier.
As we’re telling the sheriff’s dept. where we are, he darts back across those three lanes, and exits at Keefe, onto Green Bay Road. We had to be transferred back to milwaukee police.
We ended up following him to the gas station at GB Rd. and Hampton, where he parked his car and got out to look at the damage. At this point we either lost our connection, or the police hung up (Girlfriend couldn’t understand the dispatcher’s last words) so we hung around the area for a few minutes before leaving.
I have no idea if they caught him or not. They knew he was driving a silver neon (apparently, there are still a few on the roads), they knew his license plate, and they knew he was driving North on Green Bay Road. I’m assuming they were looking for him.
I would have stuck around longer if my girlfriend wasn’t in the car, but instead, I have no clue if he was ever caught.
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Something like that happened to us once too
The really sad part was that we kept getting transferred to different departments, and by the time we were online with someone that could talk to us (4 minutes later) the guy we were reporting was already out of sight.
why the hell can't they conference call
and have you talk to both sheriff and police at once?
by PagsBrewCrew on May 26, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Or better yet
Just direct you to the State Patrol. They have jurisdiction throughout the state.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
If they did find him
I’d imagine you’ll be getting a call from them.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
That's what I figured.
They had her name and phone number, so I was hoping they’d give her a call back.
I guess I just hope nobody ended up getting hurt. This guy was a serious threat to human life. I wouldn’t have called about somebody deviating form their lane, slightly, but this guy was clearly blackout drunk. It was only like 10:30, too. There were a lot of cars on the road.
I looked on JSonline, and didn’t see any drunk driving accidents reported, so he probably made it home safely. I would have paid a good sum of money to watch him wake up the next morning and try to figure out who vandalized his car..
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Depending on the condition they found him in
they’re going to need a witness to his bad driving.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Can we just agree that all future Brewer prospect lists are going to begin at, say, #6?
Best case: 3 (holding a spot for future #12 and 15 picks)
No disrepect to Bernie’s Crew, and I do like Scooter, but when your #1 prospect is slugging .332, your #2 has an ERA of 6, and your former #1 is on the DL with a WHIP of 3.0, well, the house looks like it could use a fresh coat of paint…
Everyone knows #17 is the most important prospect.
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by Yar Nivek on May 26, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
It might be a good day for a picture caption contest.
The picture to caption is at the top of the Mug.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
I don't always cop a feel.
But when I do, I prefer Greinke.
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by Yar Nivek on May 26, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Luc's hoping for a spot on the next Dancing with the Stars
I’m no Solid Gold dancer, but I think he’s doing it wrong.
Randy, if you let me catch you, I'd grab your ass too.
Where are the trolls when you actually want them?
by SAE on May 26, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
On a lighter note...
I think this is the first time in baseball history a player has been given manicure therapy for an injury. Put some superglue on it and get back on the mound! Haha
Angels sign Branyan
Guess that option is now off the table.
How long were they planning on leaving Greinke in, yesterday?
He was already at 105 pitches when they let him bat. Did they just want him to face 1 batter? Did they think he could make it a 10 pitch inning? And then to let him bat, but remove him after the inning takes too long… is that because his arm was probably starting to tighten up after the long rest? The whole 8th inning confused me.
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According to TH...
it was because of the long bottom half of the 7th.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Greinke's splits
No one on base: .647 OPS; Men on – 1.073 OPS.
Starting a count 1-0: 1.267 OPS; Starting 0-1 – .529 OPS
So if there’s a guy on base and he starts the next guy off with a ball – look out.
(I know he’s only giving up runs because of luck and it’s nothing he’s doing….just thought it was interesting how big his splits are)
Get a ife broseph
Doesn't look like its been a problem in his career
I think so far in 2011 it has been, I wonder if the rib injury had anything to do with that?
There’s a bigger sample with no men on base (73 PAs vs 42 PAs) so that might be the reason the numbers are so different.
Get a ife broseph
Weird
I went to last Friday’s game and remember him getting behind 3-0 on a couple of batters and ended up striking them both out. Granted, my memory may not be 100% accurate.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
He's given 6 batters a 3-0 count, and ended up striking out 4 of them.
Fun with small samples I guess.
Also kind of crazy – he’s struck out 39 or 58 hitters he got 2 strikes on.
Get a ife broseph
The game against the Pirates
where he went double – double – double – triple – single probably didn’t help those numbers.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Not necessarilly unlucky, just sucks that so many of the hits have come with guys on
No reason to expect that to continue
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I realized after thinking about this yesterday
that I’m getting unnecessarily hung up on the definition of “unlucky.”
I apologize for my obstinence.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Boggs is gone
Per McCalvy. Was going to make a Josh Fields joke, but I’ll cut him some slack.
Get a ife broseph
Agree, can't imagine he stays
I’d say it sucks to lose depth, but its not like he was ever going to play for Roenicke.
Get a ife broseph
So long, thanks for the puns.
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Michael Morse
Thank goodness we won’t have to face this guy again… at least this season.
In six games this season against the Brewers (23 PAs), he hit .409/.391/.909 with 3 HRs.
BTW, his career numbers against the Brewers are actually better…
.421/.410/.895 with 5 HRs in 39 PAs.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
When was that... last season?
.289/.352/.519 with 15 HRs in 293 PAs.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Day games
Phillies up 9-4 after 7 on the Reds – Homer Bailey left early with shoulder tightness.
Cubs down 1-0 to the Mets
Get a ife broseph
And reason No. 1 why I hope Quade keeps pinch-hitting with Big Z.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Red Sox going off on the Indians again, 14-1 in the eighth.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Obligatory "Patriots have had a solid couple of days" joke.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Tigers
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker
Oh, good call
Just assumed they were playing Cleveland again today.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Cubs rallied
Up 4-1 in 4th. RA Dickey got hurt and Cubs have been feasting on the Mets long relief.
Get a ife broseph
Cubs up 7-2.
I think whenever the Cubs give up runs on stupid plays (as they are wont to do) and come back, we should call it a “puke and rally.”
Guess the player
Player A: 186 HR, 4662 PA = 25.1 PA/HR (minors + majors)
Player B: 77 HR, 2768 PA = 35.9 PA/HR (minors + majors)
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
(re: "pop" off the bench)
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
not Russell the Muscle
Too close for missiles, I’m switching to Ueck.
Nah. His is like 1.1 PA/HR
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
I knew who Player B was
But I had to look up Player A.
I wasn’t that surprised. Makes you wonder even more who will be the other player DFA’d before tomorrow’s game.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
B is easy
I thought A was Kotsay, in which case I was going to cry foul, but it’s not.
by Cheeseandcorn on May 26, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually Kotsay is worse...
143 HR, 7325 PA = 51.2 PA/HR (minors + majors)
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Do we mention that Player A has hit all but 13 of those 186 homers in the minors?
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Should we? Neither one has played in the majors very much.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
Eh.
Rivera’s hit around 7% of his total homers in the majors. Boggs has hit around 13% of his homers in the majors. Probably not enough to get worked up about.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Rivera still appears to be the better option if you're looking for HR power off the bench.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
Answer
Player A = Mike Rivera
Player B = Brandon Boggs
Of course, we’re probably going to be stuck with Wil Nieves and Josh Wilson in the end.
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Big question
I’m filling in an application form for a job and, under the interests section, have mentioned (among other things) following baseball and the Brewers. Given that this is for a job in the UK do you think that will be viewed by the employer as a) of little consequence, b) showing me to be a nerd (in a good way), c) showing me to be a nerd (in a sad way)?
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Me too
I’m kinda hoping that the worst that would happen is they’d think it was “quirky”…
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Not sure what kind of job this is
but why bother putting it down at all?
I think A is the most likely outcome, but I doubt they would care either way if you liked to follow an American baseball team.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
They ask for interests and hobbies
and beyond sitting on my ass watching the Brewers there’s not a heap of other stuff to put down there. Plus it would mean that if I get an interview there’d be at least one thing I’d be guaranteed to feel pretty comfortable talking about. Admittedly it’d be perhaps the least likely thing to get mentioned, but hey…
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Good luck
BTW – If you wanted to put down something that would be a discussion topic during the interview, I’d think putting down a football (aka soccer) team would be a better idea. Then again, it’s probably a good thing you didn’t… particularly if the interviewer liked a different club.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Are there any in Pittsburgh?
If I didn't know better, I'd think the Brewers were a halfway decent baseball team...
by Tepo6688 on May 26, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I did once get offered a job
by a company down in London on the basis of a 45 minute interview of which approximately 40 minutes consisted of an in-depth discussion of the fortunes of Brentford FC, the team the interviewer supported.
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
I'm thinking quirky.
It’s something different, probably unexpected, and will be one of those things that’s memorable against a pile of applications that say “twirling parasols” or “waxing my moustache,” or whatever it is British people do.
by mpbMKE on May 26, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You forgot
“spouting ”http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/24/denmark-bans-marmite" >righteous indignation on European countries banning yeast-based spreads". We love a bit of that…
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Failing to correctly put links in Internet postings
That’s another thing we’re really keen on…
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Like I always say,
Nothing spreads like yeast.
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by tcyoung on May 26, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Quite possibly the worst saying ever
Kudos
If I didn't know better, I'd think the Brewers were a halfway decent baseball team...
Hobbies:
“Filling out job applications, producing bizarre stereotypes”
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on May 26, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You'd better hope Albert Pujols isn't reviewing your application.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
Hey, remember all that handwringing about Derek Lowe's OWI arrest a couple months back?
Turns out that the prosecutor had to dismiss the charges because he didn’t have enough evidence.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Example #2473
why you always say no to the breathalyzer.
by Archibaldcrane on May 26, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like there is a decent chance Posey returns this season for the Giants.
My guess is that it would be a situation similar to Gallardo back in 2008, where he might be able to help with a playoff push / playoff run.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
By the way, when I say "decent chance"
I mean below 50%, but above 10%.
Just won’t put a definite number on it.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
More like "doubtful"
I think in most people’s mind, “decent chance” means at least a 50% chance.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Saw a Wilpon article
where the GM denied the 30% cutting of the payroll, saying it wouldn’t be that much, but said that it could decrease as far as to 100M from 140M. Um…that’s OVER 30% Mr. Math.
sorry if it’s already been mentioned…
Actually a $40 million decrease from $140 million is a 28.6% decrease :P
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
christ
so it is. How the hell do I get off saying that?
blergh.
by PagsBrewCrew on May 26, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So, does this mean they start trading players away?
I hope DM is on the phone. Give them Betancourt and the money from the Royals… free SS!
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I have that barrelman hat
It’s a fantastic hat.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
This
will never be true
If I didn't know better, I'd think the Brewers were a halfway decent baseball team...
by Tepo6688 on May 27, 2011 6:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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