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Does Yuniesky actually hold some value in a package for a shortstop? Discuss.

12 months ago Brewersslap18_tiny tcyoung 22 comments 0 recs  | 

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no, and it’s really too bad there making gamel play 1st (I know he’s terrible at 3rd) but it would be nice to have some hits coming out of the 3rd basemen

by Milwaukee Beers on May 31, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Nope

to everything here.

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by Mykenk on Jun 3, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely no,

that says a lot more about how horrible the free agent comp ratings are than how good Yuni is. Teams know he’s a bad defender, that formula doesn’t.

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on May 31, 2011 6:25 PM CDT reply actions  

My point is that somebody who is out of it, doesn't care about his play for half a season, they'd be interested in the draft picks.

As Kyle mentioned in the mug, though, the team would have to offer him arbitration in order to get those draft picks. While I agree with every single thing you wrote, I think a potential trade partner might think a little bit harder about taking on Yuni in a trade.

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by tcyoung on Jun 1, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Technically, it's short for "Bumbling"

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by SRB on May 31, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's pretty crappy, but this has been his best season at SS.

He’s been worth 9 fielding runs above average this year. There’s still plenty of season left to drag that number into the red.

by Acheron on Jun 1, 2011 3:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

UZR is a less useful measure for Brewers infield performance this year

UZR removes all plays with a non-neutral defensive alignment. Given that the Brewers seem to be repositioning their infield fairly often (don’t know where to find the statistics on that), due possibly in part to the poor defensive players they have, a lot of the plays aren’t included in UZR. In fact, we could expect UZR to be inflated since at least a portion of the neutral defensive alignment AB occur when it’s the best defense to play and the infielders are more likely to be in position to make a play.

I don’t know that Yuni ever had a real problem with his glove or arm since he’s been league average at fielding percentage for a while now. His range has been piteous and I would argue that UZR might not be that best measure of zone for the Brewers infielders in general, this year.

by ecocd on Jun 1, 2011 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think UZR

only throws out plays where a defender is on the wrong side of a bag or is on the other side of another player

If Yuni is playing up the middle on a LH shift, but slightly to the SS side, I think they count it. I thought the problem with UZR was this year they’re not throwing out enough Brewers plays, so he’s getting superbonuses for range on balls he only needs to move 5 feet for.

by PagsBrewCrew on Jun 1, 2011 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, that make sense

I figure all of the Brewers infielders will then be getting a lot of that. Maybe we can find someone smart to figure out the value of positioning players based on historical defensive ability as a baseline compared to the final UZR numbers this year.

by ecocd on Jun 1, 2011 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

His UZR is -2.1, btw

That’s about on pace with his performance last year so I guess we can ignore everything I just said.

by ecocd on Jun 1, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

His BABIP is .228

Which is horrible and I wish he would never play professional baseball again starting tonight.

by ecocd on Jun 1, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

If there is one player that should have a low BABIP, it's Yuni

I try to walk away from the TV when he’s at the plate, I get too angry watching him.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jun 1, 2011 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

But that's bound to come back up to average.

You’d have to be Johnny Estrada slow to maintain that…oh, wait.

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by Yar Nivek on Jun 1, 2011 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not his speed, it's his approach at the plate

Make note of his swing with 0 strikes vs. 1-2 strikes. He has a normal mlb swing with 0 strikes. As soon as he gets one or two strikes he’s just sticking his bat into the ball’s bath. It almost feels like a swinging bunt and very often results in a grounder to the SS or pitcher. If Sveum could just get him to swing away on all counts, he would strike out more, but would also likely increase his slash line.

BABIP on 0 strikes ~ 0.265; .322/.299/.565
BABIP on 1 strike ~ 0.203; .203/.216/.254
BABIP on 2 strikes = 0.205; .131/.185/.148

While we expect slash lines to decrease across those, the BABIP difference is dramatic and not as common. Slugging .148 with 2 strikes is atrocious. Even Carlos Gomez has managed .230 and Casey McGehee slugs .321 with 2 strikes.

What do you consider “average.” His last two years have been low-BABIP years and he will continue to be a low-BABIP player until he changes his approach at the plate.

by ecocd on Jun 1, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Betancourt is what happens

when a player thinks his goal at the plate is to make contact instead of trying to make good contact.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Jun 1, 2011 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very, very well said

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by Michael M on Jun 1, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction
Which is horrible and I wish he would never play professional baseball again starting tonight for the Brewers.

I’d be happy with him playing for just about any other team.

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by sjlee on Jun 1, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what number you're looking at to say he's +9

UZR and Dewan +/- both have him at -2 so far

E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).

by Jordan M on Jun 1, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

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