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by Kyle Lobner on Jun 2, 2011 11:05 AM CDT
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Some things to read while watching for Frank Catalanotto.
The Brewers resumed their road struggles last night, blowing a 3-0 seventh inning lead and losing the game and the series in Cincinnati. Most of the frustration this morning is centered on the Brewers' decisions to A) enter the series against the Reds without a lefty in the bullpen and B) allow Kameron Loe to face Joey Votto with the game on the line in the eighth inning. Keep Turning Up The Heat! called the decisions stupid.
Here's the thing, though: I'm not sure what anyone honestly expected the team to do here.The no-lefty situation is a tough one, but the only healthy and available arm the Brewers could have added to the pen is Danny Ray Herrera, who they just claimed off waivers last week. Mitch Stetter, Zach Braddock and Manny Parra (who doesn't get lefties out anyway) are all unavailable. If you want to make the case that Herrera should be on the roster instead of a guy like Tim Dillard or Mike McClendon, I guess I can see that. I think you're overestimating the difference it might have made, though, because Herrera is anything but a stud reliever.
The second-guessing of the Loe decision really has me shaking my head, though. He entered last night's game having allowed just two hits over his last nine innings of work, and having allowed a run in just four of his last 20 outings. Even after allowing the home run to Votto, he's holding opposing lefties to a .208/.296/.396 line this season. People are acting like Ron Roenicke threw the gas can into the fireplace. I'm not sure what you wanted done differently.
Really, the tone of a lot of the reaction this morning is similar to the tone of a lot of the "I KNEW THEY WOULD LOSE!" posts that pop up in the game threads every time the Brewers fall behind in a close game. That really frustrates me, because I know we're better than that.
Moving on: Casey McGehee sat out last night's game, with Craig Counsell starting at third and going 0-for-3 with a walk. Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar asks if it's time to bump McGehee down in the lineup. Adam McCalvy talked to McGehee about his slump and found some reasons for optimism going forward.
Other notes from the field:
- Rickie Weeks led off the game with a home run last night. He's now done that three times this season and all three were in Cincinnati. View From Bernie's Chalet wants you to help Weeks get elected to the All Star Game.
- Francisco Cordero recorded his 300th career save last night. He's now faced the Brewers 30 times and is 1-0 with 19 saves and a 0.94 ERA against them.
- Kameron Loe hit Brandon Phillips with a pitch before allowing Votto's home run. As you might imagine, Plunk Everyone has more.
- Votto's home run traveled an estimated 439 feet.
- Here's a transcript of Ron Roenicke's postgame comments.
- Joey Votto, Shaun Marcum and Kameron Loe are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game voting.
The Brewers have a day off today before opening a series in Florida tomorrow, and Jesse Sanchez of MLB.com has a preview. The Marlins may be a bit shorthanded, though: They're expected to place reliever Clay Hensley on the DL today with a shoulder injury and shortstop Hanley Ramirez could join him with a sore back.
Yuniesky Betancourt went 2-for-4 last night and drove in one of the Brewers' only runs. Carson Cistulli of Baseball Nation spotted a little-known clause in his contract.
Looking back a day, here's something I found interesting. Jonathan Lucroy, who is normally a relatively fast home run trotter, narrowly avoided having the slowest trot of the day on Tuesday. Lucroy clocked in at 24.6 seconds, and only David Ortiz was slower. Ryan Braun thinks Lucroy deserves consideration for the All Star team. Lucroy was also named the Brewers' Player of the Month for May, with Yovani Gallardo winning Pitcher of the Month.
The Brewers had a very good month of May, but apparently most of their individual performances weren't enough to catch the attention of MLBDepthCharts: LaTroy Hawkins is the only Brewer on their NL May All Star team.
The Brewers' strong month put them right back into play in the NL Central, but can they stay there? Howie Magner of Milwaukee Magazine looked back at the first third of the season and says the Brewers are contenders. Dan O'Donnell of WTMJ says they'll be in trouble if they can't pick up the pace against the Reds and Cardinals.
Today in trade rumors: If the Brewers decide they need another lefty, Jack Moore of FanGraphs notes that A's reliever Brian Fuentes could be available. His contract (due $10.5 million through 2012) is a strong reason to say no, though.
In the minors:
- Through 18 professional appearances (15 starts), Tyler Thornburg is carrying a 1.51 ERA. Adam McCalvy has a look at Thormburg's dominance of the Midwest League this season.
- The affiliates went 0-4 for the second straight night last night, with Zach Braddock walking one and striking out one in a hitless inning for Nashville. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- Adam McCalvy says Braddock could rejoin the Brewers as soon as Friday.
- MLBDepthCharts listed Brevard County Manatee Brock Kjeldgaard among the honorable mentions for their NL Minor League Hitting Performance of the Week.
- Brewerfan.net is reporting the Brewers have released former Nashville Sound Chris Nowak. Nowak, a 28 year old Milwaukee native, was hitting .159/.282/.227 in 19 games for the Sounds.
Here are today's draft notes: The Crawfish Boxes has scouting reports on two players that have been listed in connection with the Brewers: UConn outfielder George Springer and LSU outfielder Mikie Mahtook. Amazin' Avenue has a comparison of the two players.
The Brewer attendance remains high this season, setting a pretty impressive baseline: Tom Tango of The Book Blog estimates the Brewers' base attendance at 26,437, which is roughly comparable to what the Milwaukee Braves averaged (adjusted for era).
Here's another reminder of what you're missing if you're not checking out our comments section: Nullacct has released another archive of his latest photoshops. Here's my favorite from this batch:
Around baseball:
Cardinals: Placed outfielder Matt Holliday (quad strain) and pitcher Kyle McClellan (strained hip flexor) on the DL.
Mariners: Released pitcher Manny Delcarmen.
Orioles: Designated catcher/first baseman/outfielder Jake Fox for assignment.
Padres: Placed outfielder Cameron Maybin on the DL with knee soreness.
Twins: Placed DH Jim Thome on the DL with a quad strain.
Jake Fox is struggling this season, hitting .188/.250/.396 in 19 games before being DFA'd. It's worth noting, though, that if the Brewers are looking to add some pop off the bench he'd be a significant upgrade over Mark Kotsay.
The Brewers missed an opportunity to gain a game in the standings last night, as the Cardinals lost to the Giants 7-5 in 11 innings. The final pitch of the game was delayed for 16 minutes due to a bank of lights going out. You know about that and much more if you've read this morning's edition of Around The NL Central.
The Angels had yesterday's scariest moment: Their plane had to make an emergency landing after experiencing some trouble with its hydraulic equipment. Thankfully, no one was injured.
Here's something else to use to kill some time this morning, if you're so inclined: Sporcle would like you to name at least one of the players that have accomplished 31 rare baseball feats. I got 27. (h/t Lone Star Ball)
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to watch for traps.
Drink up.
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Ahh CoCo 300th save
That explains he was so happy, I thought his celebration was a bit over the top for a normal save.
So every pitcher needs a changeup?
Via McCalvy article on Thornburg, summary from player development director Reid Nichols:
The Brewers want Midwest League pitchers to show command of the fastball to both sides of the plate, and an ability to throw offspeed pitches for strikes, and between 10-15 percent changeups with command.I took a look at the best pitchers by FIP through 2009-2010 and they really do all seem to throw a changeup. Some more than others, but it’s in the arsenal and most of them throw it at least 10% of the time. It’s also almost always a neutral-to-positive pitch.
Which direction does the causation go? Effective changeups make better pitchers or are only good pitchers capable of throwing an effective changeup?
Think about it this way
If you throw a nasty curve, the hitter might have to make an adjustment several inches away from where he initially thought it would be. If you throw a nasty change, the ball could be several feet away from where (when) he expected it.
My opinion, in your question
Is to the latter.
there is a certain feel and mechanic and skill involved in throwing and effective (even if only neutral) changeup.
No surprise really that Thornburg is dominating low A ball in a pitcher firendly league seeing as how he is a year oldter or 3 years older than most of the competition, and its a two pitch league. The worry in drafting him was that he didnt really have a changeup, and might relegate him to the bullpen eventually. It almost appears as if he has the makings of being a Heckathorn 2.0.
You need that third pitch for the 3rd time through the lineup. If you only throw 2 pitches effectively, the hitter has a 50% chance of guessing right, but if its 3 pitches his success rate dramaticaly drops as the game goes on.
I think you get hung up on the age/level thing too much. Not to mention outdated scouting reports.
Thornburg throws a changeup 10-15% of the time.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
Throwing a changeup isnt necessarily always the issue
Heckathorn supposedly threw the best one in the league last year, and the report on him still states that he has a below average change up.
Nonetheless, he throws a change and his success in A isn't simply him using two pitches.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
a change that he threw 5.5% of the time last season.
He’s increased it’s use this year, as he’s throwing it 10.3%.
He throws nearly 75% fastballs. It’s incredible. His fastball is so good that he hardly needs any other pitches.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
He's got two different fastballs, right?
The two-seamer is a particularly nasty pitch.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Yeah. One breaks down more, while the other has more horizontal movement.
They’re nasty pitches, and both are thrown at 95-96.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
Or Brandon Webb (when he was healthy)
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Effective changeups make better pitchers.
You can screw with the opponent’s timing. It gives them one more thing to think about up there. They don’t have to just see where the ball is going, they have to worry about when it’s going to get there.
And for the best changeups, there’s no real way to tell what it is when it leaves the pitcher’s hand. (It’s difficult to see any difference in the spin from the fastball, and if the pitcher has good arm action, the hitter is reduced to guessing.)
Back in high school
I had a coach who had been a catcher at AA in the Astros system, so I guess he knew what he was talking about, but he believed every pitcher needs at least three pitches to be successful. He wanted us throwing a fastball, some sort of breaking pitch, and a good change-up.
I dont understand why more pitchers havent developed off-speed pitches as amateurs. I understand being able to blow away the majority of high school hitters with a fastball/slider combo if you throw in the 90’s, but any good hitter is going to square up on the fastball if he knows how fast its going to get there.
I am far from an expert, but I think developing some of those pitches too young can potentially hurt the pitcher. e.g. I don’t think it’s recommended that kids start throwing curves/sliders in their teens. Someone who knows more can correct me though.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it depends who you talk to.
I had a coach in HS who swore that kids could throw a 12-6 curveball all day without hurting their arms (said the pitch was all about snapping your wrist), but refused to let anyone throw a slider because of the torque on the elbow. He had the same policy on splitters: too much strain on the elbow, strictly verboten.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Marcum says that's how he got such a good change.
His little league coaches wouldn’t let him throw breaking stuff.
fka "warwick5s"
The most recent medical research
Suggests that it isn’t so much the arm action of breaking balls that can hurt kids as it is the sheer number of pitches thrown. But there are conflicting (older) studies that say elbow stress especially (i.e. sliders) should be avoided. And if it takes a lot of pitches thrown to develop a consistent breaking ball (or changeup), then you’ll see reluctance to have kids “waste” their pitch counts on those pitches when they can get batters out with just a straight fastball. Little League has VERY strict pitch count limits for kids, based primarily on the most recent findings.
I’ve actually read a couple of papers (I think they were in the Louisiana State Medical Journal, or another peer-reviewed journal — I don’t have the citations handy) on this, since I’m trying to teach the Braunophile good pitching mechanics while minimizing injury risk. (For the record, the only thing I’m teaching him right now are 4-Seam and 2-Seam FBs. He can often get a slight downward break on the 2-Seam. I’ve promised to teach him a changeup when he gets a bit older, but given the conflicting medical research I’m not going to teach him any breaking stuff until he’s significantly older.)
I think another argument against changeups for most pitchers coming up is that the best of them (the ones who will eventually play pro ball, even if it’s only in the minors) have no trouble throwing their fastballs past the typical hitters they face. And they figure that slowing down the pitch only gives their opponents a better chance. So they don’t bother to develop the changeup. It isn’t until they get to higher levels of competition that they face hitters that can catch up to their fastball.
In the era of the internet, your son might find curveball/slider instructions online.
So maybe you should block those sites. But then he’ll just view them at school or his friend’s.
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"Curveball/slider instructions"
Is that a euphemism on your side of the pond?
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
No.
But I did intentionally word my statement so as to evoke the parallel.
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I appreciate your evocation...
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
It's definitely an off-day.
Comments are near non-existent today.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
I think
we could all use a break after the way that game and series ended last night.
Celebrating the addition of Greinke and mourning the loss of my man crush Cain
I can't go too long without Brewers talk.
If I do, I start going through withdrawal, and things aren’t pleasant in my mind then.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, the Queen of Hearts is in a foul mood, so I am going to go to the computer grid for a while and watch the light cycle races.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
While that post may have been a joke
I now want to watch Alice in Wonderland (the new version) when I get home tonight.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
I can think of worse things
Than getting beaten by two of the best hitters in professional baseball in a low-scoring game.
I can too
Your daughter comes home and says “Daddy! I met the greatest guy and we’re engaged. He’s a millionaire and he plays professional baseball!”
“Oh, really? This guy sounds -”
“He’s so sweet, his name is Yuni.”
by nullacct on Jun 2, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least it's weak contact. Probably won't leave a bruise or anything.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a little slow with the glove though
So, it may be a shotgun wedding.
Where are the trolls when you actually want them?
by SAE on Jun 2, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
And he's not much of a cook, from what I hear.
Has to make everything in a microwave because he’s got no range.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Jun 2, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Sounds good to me.
How long can they leave him off the roster for paternity leave?
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by Yar Nivek on Jun 2, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't get the joke.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Still don't get it...
He’s slow with the glove, so it will have to be a shotgun wedding? I don’t get it.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Are you aware that "glove" is a euphemism for a type of family planning product?
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
So, he's not good with family planning and they need a wedding quickly.
…I guess I understand.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
I'll make it as simple as possible...
glove = condom… by saying he’s slow with the glove, it could refer to his defense or that he’s not quick to use a condom.
shotgun wedding = weddings where the groom is “forced” into the wedding by the bride’s father (with a shotgun)… usually because the bride is knocked up
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Jun 2, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No glove, no love.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
by cooper82 on Jun 2, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone is working feverishly on their BCB Draft Predictions Contest picks.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
My research has started and ended
with the fact that one of the guys likely to go relatively early on the second day is this guy. If there is anyone anywhere in the history of the world ever with a better name I’ll be amazed.
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
by MrLeam on Jun 2, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe not as good
But I stumbled across this guy the other day, one of my new favorites.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Oooh, that is good
Plus he’s also the answer to the “name the professional baseball player with a worse record this season than Yuni” puzzler…
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Maybe
only if the A’s pick up some of the tab, thats a lot of dough. Wouldnt use him as the closer though, and that sounds like a lot of his issues with the manager in Oakland, he wants to close and thats it.
Jonathan Mayo has the Brewers taking Alex Meyer (#12) and Taylor Guerrieri (#15) in his latest mock draft.
Also answered this question regarding Lindor:
From s_r_braun: Is Francisco Lindor being overvalued simply because he can legitimately play shortstop in the major leagues? What is his offensive upside and how does it compare to other position players in the draft?"
Jonathan_Mayo: I’m not sure you can overvalue a guy who can legitimately play shortstop.
Jonathan_Mayo: That being said, there are those who aren’t as convinced he’ll hit enough to be valued where he’s at right now. He got bigger and stronger this year and I’ve heard he’s impressed in private workouts. Yes, his glove is what stands out, but teams considering him at the top really think he’ll hit."
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
did anyone predict last year that the Brewers would take Covey?
I cringe when I see Guerrieri mentioned with the Brewers. And if you throw in that its coupled with Meyer at the 12 pick, ugh.
No idea why you don't like Guerrieri, but yeah, I don't think anybody has much of an idea who the Brewers will take.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Even the Brewers don't know.
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Meyer and Guerrieri
I would not be thrilled with this even though I do like Guerrieri. Meyer does have a power arm but he has had control issues for the better part of his three years at Kentucky. The only college arm I like that could be available is Gray since I think he has a chance to be another Sheets.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jun 2, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I'm the only one who really likes Meyer
Control issues can be fixed, but you can’t teach being 6’9" with a fastball that’s touched 100 mph. Huge upside.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Mr. 100 mph.
Please show me on this doll where Meyer touched you.
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Since it is an off day....
I KNEW WE WEREN’T GOING TO WIN TODAY!
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jun 2, 2011 1:32 PM CDT reply actions
Two straight days without a win....
This isn’t good.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Yeah, but Yuni did make an error.
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I got a new ball and glove hat today
I’m set.
don't forget to brush your teeth.
by Drew C on Jun 2, 2011 1:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Interesting 2012 Draft Prospect
A local kid, named Adam Walker, who went to Milwaukee Lutheran High School. Now plays at Jacksonville U and will be playing against Miami U in the NCAA tournament this weekend, not sure if its televised at all.
He went down there as a catcher, but now plays 1B/OF. He hit 13 HR this year as a sophmore, and is a Golden Spikes Finalist. Hit .416 and OPS’ed at over 1.000. With the new bats this year a guy who can hit like that is definitely a top prospect.
Players like this tend to get drafted first round. He’ll be playing for Harwich in the Cape Cod League this summer.
13 HR with the new bats is a huge number.
UCLA as a team hit only 16 this season. CS-Fullerton only hit 17. And those are both really good college teams.
Looked it up out of interest: CJ Cron is hitting .434/.517/.803/1.320 with 15 HR (1.353 OPS park and league adjusted)
Guess that’s why he’s a mid-first rounder despite being a 1B or even DH, haha.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Cron
Those are incredible numbers no doubt but you have to factor in that he plays in a really weak conference. I tend to prefer guys from the SEC, ACC, or Pac 10 since the competition level is far greater. To be honest I really hope we pick two high schoolers and let them develop instead of trying for the quick fix and lower ceiling prospects.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jun 2, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I WENT to milwaukee lutheran
and was cut from the baseball team
obviously their program was going nowhere and can’t possibly recognize or produce any talent
I went to high school with him.
Really cool guy, great athlete. He was also the all-conference quarterback. Can hit the ball a mile.
That's all very well
But can he put together a neat spreadsheet? Can he explain the difference between FIP and xFIP? Does he understand logistical regression?
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Logistical regression?
I would only draft if he understands Probit/Logit regression.
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Pirates were up 7-0 against the Mets through the 5th inning.
They now trail 9-7 after the 8th inning.
Go-ahead run got on base with a single, went to second on a balk, went to third on a wild pitch, and scored on a sacrifice fly.
Here’s the Mets 8th inning:
Single
Walk (Balk & Wild Pitch occurring during at bat)
Sacrifice Fly to Center
Intentional Walk
Walk
Foul Out to First
Walk (with Bases Loaded)
Strikeout (Swinging)
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Have been watching that one too
Best bit was Capuano pinch-hitting (!) and then getting pulled half way through the at-bat as the balk allowed Harris to get to second in scoring position…
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
Apparently Josh Roenicke (Ron's nephew) was placed on waivers by Toronto recently.
I wonder if there was any thought about claiming him…
(Before anyone says anything, no, I was not being serious about it.)
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Colorado already claimed him
Now we can trade Prince Fielder for Josh Fields and Josh Roenicke.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, when I thought about Ron having his nephew on the team....
…this scene from The Office came to mind.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Tweet from Jon Heyman
With kubel and thome going on the dl today, twins bidding to be unluckiest team in history
Agree or disagree with that?
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Disagree
They’ve had a bunch of injuries but without Mauer they’re not a contender either way. That’s the danger of building your team around one player.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 2, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that's being a little unfair about the reactions
My argument simply was that there should be a lefty on the roster, it should be Hererra (who is better than Stetter anyways), and that given the facts that there is no lefty on the roster, a guy with a big career platoon split (not really interested in the season platoon split so much) shouldn’t be the one to face Votto.
I think I should record all my thoughts about in-game decisions live to avoid the monday morning qb charge. I was angry when I saw Loe was going to face Votto and Bruce and it certainly doesn’t look to have been a great decision based on process or results.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Jun 2, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
28
Missed 3 of the 4 least correctly answered.
New Johnsonville ad
I don’t know if this was brought up already, but has anyone seen that new TV ad? When I first saw it, I had to rewind it (DVR), because that guy in it looks exactly like Fielder (obviously not the case).
I can’t find it anywhere online, otherwise I’d link it.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
That guy and the Coke Zero guy need to get together and start a team
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
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Pittsburgh
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22 | 24 | .478 | 4 | Won 2 |
|
Milwaukee
|
19 | 27 | .413 | 7 | Lost 1 |
|
Chicago
|
15 | 31 | .326 | 11 | Lost 11 |
(updated 5.27.2012 at 12:11 PM CDT)
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