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by Kyle Lobner on Jun 3, 2011 10:13 AM CDT
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Some things to read while getting knocked out of the spelling bee.
On a pretty quiet off day, the biggest news was a minor transaction: The Brewers have sent outfielder Jeremy Reed to the Twins for cash considerations (FanShot). It's unlikely the Brewers got much in return for Reed, who was likely behind Brandon Boggs and perhaps others on the organizational depth chart. The Twins are Reed's fifth organization since Opening Day 2008, and he finishes his Brewer career having gone 0-for-7 in seven April games with the Crew.
The Brewers spent a day off in Miami yesterday and open a four game series with the Marlins tonight. Greg Schimmel of The Washington Post listed tonight's Randy Wolf-Ricky Nolasco matchup as the game of the day. Colin Fly, always a ray of sunshine, notes that the Brewers are 2-9 in their last 11 games at Dolphin Stadium.
Meanwhile, Matthew Pouliot of Hardball Talk is handing out awards for the first third of the MLB season, and he has three Brewers in the top ten for his NL MVP: Ryan Braun (2nd), Prince Fielder (7th) and Rickie Weeks (8th). Maybe if Braun has a good weekend he can pass Joey Votto in next week's Three-Eighths Awards.
Elsewhere in Rickie Weeks notes: His leadoff home run on Wednesday clocked in at 20.67 seconds.
Hopefully back-to-back days off helped Casey McGehee as he tries to work his way out of a slump. MLB Daily Dish notes that McGehee's .661 OPS is 20th among major league third basemen. Last year at this time McGehee was hitting .301/.363/.513.
It's probably safe to assume the day off didn't do much to help Yuniesky Betancourt. This week's BCB Tracking Poll shows that 81% of voters think the Brewers should be attempting to acquire a replacement at shortstop.
With 30 wins this season Ron Roenicke has already passed Jim Lefebvre for 15th place on the Brewers' managerial wins list, and now needs just 24 more to pass Jerry Royster. Tyler Maas of The AV Club has a look at how Roenicke compares to the Brewer managers of old.
In the minors:
- Mark DiFelice is still waiting for his callup to the majors, but the Brewers might have another role in mind for him: He's going to get the start tonight for Nashville in place of Chase Wright. It'll be his first professional start since 2008.
- Nick Bucci, Khris Davis and Scooter Gennett have all been selected to represent Brevard County in the Florida State League All Star Game.
- The affiliates went 2-2 last night, with Mat Gamel going 2-for-4 with a walk and a home run in Nashville's 15-11 win over Iowa. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- Adam McCalvy and Colin Fly both have previews of Monday's draft.
- Toby Harrmann of Disciples of Uecker has some inside info regarding shortstop Javier Baez's private workout at Miller Park.
- Vince Caramela of The Hardball Times predicts the Brewers will select Texas pitcher Taylor Jungmann and Kentucky pitcher Alex Meyer.
Around baseball:
Diamondbacks: Signed pitcher Yhency Brazoban to a minor league deal.
Rangers: Signed pitcher Manny Delcarmen to a minor league deal.
Rockies: Claimed pitcher Josh Roenicke and infielder Ryan Rohlinger off waivers from the Blue Jays and Giants, respectively.
Brazoban requested and received his release from the Rangers earlier this week.
In division action last night the Giants picked up another victory over the Cardinals (12-7), allowing the idle Brewers, Reds and Cubs to all gain half a game in the standings. You already know that and much more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central.
Today in former Brewers: John Sickels of Minor League Ball featured Brett Lawrie as his Prospect of the Day. Lawrie is expected to be called up to the Blue Jays soon.
An ugly story has taken an uglier turn today. Giants catcher Buster Posey will miss the rest of the 2011 season following leg injuries suffered during a home plate collision and Posey's GM, Brian Sabean, went way over the top with his reaction, saying he hopes Marlins OF Scott Cousins never plays in the majors again and pledging retaliation. Larry Granillo of Wezen-ball notes that this isn't consistent with Sabean's reaction to similar plays over the years.
Today in baseball economics:
- The Chicago Tribune is reporting that nine major league teams are currently in violation of MLB's debt service rules, and most of them aren't the ones you'd expect. I don't think anyone will be surprised to discover that the Mets and Dodgers are in trouble, but the Cubs, Orioles, Tigers, Marlins, Phillies, Rangers and Nationals are also on the list.
- Monday's Attendance Tracker at The Biz of Baseball shows that five Memorial Day games (in Seattle, Tampa, Arizona, Kansas City and Toronto) all failed to draw 20,000 fans.
- The Biz of Baseball also notes that MLB attendance is down 1% from this point last season.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have planking to do.
Drink up.
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Premeditated assault?
Could Sabeans words be considered premeditated intent to injury/assault? I don’t know when actions on the field go from ‘part of the game’ to something else. Rubie?!?
Sabean is an idiot
Posey blocked the plate
Went for the tag, shoulder first, even though he missed the ball
and got hurt
you don’t have to go in shoulder first, especially if you’re the catcher
catch the ball and place the tag.
No, he didn't block the plate
did you even watch the play? He was on the first base side of home plate.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
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by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
But Sabean is an idiot.
Have you seen the contracts he signs and the trades he makes?
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Sure Sabean's an idiot
it doesn’t make what BEARDEDJEFF said true, though. Posey was on the first base side of the plate. Cousins clearly decided he was going to run into him.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Yet his team just won a World Series
I’m not saying that doesn’t make him an idiot, but if you can employ one and win a World Series, you’re doing something right.
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he was blocking the plate
i believe his leg was draped in front of the plate, which is a way to block the plate before you have the ball. he was not blocking the plate with his body, but draping your leg is a way to try to block the plate to force a slide in a particular direction.
by Capt Science on Jun 3, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Rewatch the play.
He was not blocking the plate.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
That's not what I see.
Watch it again. He’s on the first base side, and then comes to in front of the plate, not to the third base side.
Are you trying to defend the obviously stupid decision by Cousins to just take out a catcher no matter what?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
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by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
If you only watch the last part of the play, he's not blocking the plate.
But the throw pulls him towards the first base side. At the time Cousins made up his mind to plow over Posey, Posey is blocking the plate. By the time Posey slides to the right to catch the ball, Cousins has already made up hid mind to make contact. You can’t exactly pull up at that point.
Look at his left foot in the RHB batter’s box…
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The plate is still open.
He is in fair territory. He can’t get any further away from the plate and expect to get back in time to make a tag.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
He's just not allowed to stand in front of it on the 3B side, if I understand right.
Didn’t Nyjer Morgan slide around something similar last week? So we’re defending the collision in a non-contact sport?
Ridiculous.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a non-contact sport except for that play.
Which is weird, but Scott Cousins didn’t invent it.
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
agreed
and i’m going through the rules again to get a better definition of what is obstructing and what’s allowed. after watching the play several more times, it’s not as obstructive (?) as i thought, but i can easily see an argument on both sides. i still generally agree with tcyoung’s view above.
anyway, all i can find right now is this:
NOTE: The catcher, without the ball in his possession, has no right to block the pathway of the runner attempting to score. The base line belongs to the runner and the catcher should be there only when he is fielding a ball or when he already has the ball in his hand.
so i’m trying to clarify a few of those terms.
interesting
i could’ve sworn that when i read the rule book in the mid-90s it had a specific passage about being allowed to block home plate if the catcher possesses the ball. it no longer does.
as for the verbiage above, the baseline, according to the rules, is quite wide but the quoted passage above says the catcher can be there when fielding the ball.
so it comes back to Marlow’s point, below, in which he suggests that had umpires called this correctly since the rule changed (or forever, if it didn’t change), then this would be less of an issue.
If you read your passage from the rulebook above
It implies that the catcher, WITH the ball in his possesstion, has the right to block the pathway of the runner attempting to score. The catcher should be there…when he already has the ball.
He was clearly moving back over to block the plate, and Cousins probably would not have scored with a slide.
I think the collision-at-the-plate thing is kind of dumb, but so long as it’s part of baseball you can’t blame Cousins for doing what he’s supposed to do to try and score a run.
It wasn’t even a super hard hit from Cousins, it was just unfortunate that Posey was moving at the time and thus his leg got caught in a bad spot.
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
Sabean is an idiot
Posey blocked the plate
Went for the tag, shoulder first, even though he missed the ball
and got hurt
you don’t have to go in shoulder first, especially if you’re the catcher
catch the ball and place the tag.
Is what I was replying to. I don’t think Posey blocked the plate. I think predetermining when you’re rounding 3B that you’re going to hit the catcher is bullshit. I don’t think baseball should be contact. I think that if umpires hadn’t allowed obstruction to occur for the last 75 years, no one would need to run into the catcher.
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by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
To quote you (almost)
“Did you even read the post?”
Yes I did watch it, numerous times, and I think its OK to have a different interpretation than you. In my view he missed the ball and threw his body into Cousins. It’s a legit play from both ends. Dumb, but legit. Cousins didn’t come in cleats up or with a Cobb drop-kick (thanks Noah). I wasn’t commenting on the merits of the play on either side, i was discussing the absurdity of Sabeans comments.
agree
i think this can be interpreted a couple ways. after watching the play again and re-reading the rules, i will concede:
(a) posey’s positioning could be considered blocking, but could also be viewed the opposite;
(b) the rules aren’t being enforced and this gets it in runner’s heads that they can plow over catchers;
© baseball clearly celebrates these collisions, as MLB network had a special on it (though i will certainly admit that fossey was blocking the plate more than posey was).
by Capt Science on Jun 3, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes you can have a different interpretation of non-factual events
but the facts are he didn’t block the plate. So yeah.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
His left foot isn't even in the RHB batters box...
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
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by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It was an "at least" statement
but, you’re right. Its in the batters box, but not obstructing the baseline.
I shouldn’t have used it.
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by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Sabean is just bitter
That he lost his only RELIABLE bat in his lineup of scrubs.
And unless other players saw Scott Cousins practicing shoulder pushes on a punching bag with Posey’s mug on it, there’s no premeditation. Dude got clobbered for blocking the plate.
As we all know, most American sports rely on snap decisions made by players. They look spectacular when everything goes right, and look dreadful when bad decisions are made. See diving catches. Seeing a full extension lay out is great thing, but the other side of that coin is the Dexter Fowler on Ryan Braun’s liner a couple of weeks ago. He had no business diving for that ball.
Cousins made the conclusion that the only way for him to score was to plow over Posey, and that’s exactly what happened. Afterwards, Cousins was shaken up over it and called Posey to see if he was all right.
Just sour grapes man.
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Ridiculous comments
Whether or not you hate Scott Cousins, that is so unprofessional for Sabean to do. Players can maybe get some slack for saying stupid things, but a GM? Come on…
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"We think he cheated and was trying to hurt Posey"
“So we’re going to attempt to severely injure him by hitting him with a baseball moving close to 100 miles per hour”
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Also, something else to add to the wezen ball article
Weren’t the Giants the one going on and on about “old school, hard-nosed” baseball when they unnecessarily threw at Prince in Spring Training (potentially injuring him) because of a home run celebration he did the previous season? That was infinitely more absurd than Scott Cousins making contact with the catcher.
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
And if the Giants don’t want to risk injury from rough plays like that, then they can concede the run every time a deep fly ball is played.
I like Posey, gift young player, and I don’t wish anyone harm, but at times you have to play it rough to get results. Tough slides to break up a DP that kind of stuff. Don’t want to get hurt, ‘protect’ the plate like Kotaras.
I really don't like
the idea of DiFelice starting…
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I doubt it'll last, and I really doubt it'll happen in the majors
But I like the premise of stretching him out.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Yeah, I'm sure that's
what they’re going for. Would be interesting to see if he can steal the long man role from Mitre, even though Mitre’s done pretty well this year…
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I guess it depends on whether or not they think he can get lefties out.
Maybe this will give him a chance to face some lefties and find out.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Do you (or anyone)
know of a site that I can get Minor League splits for stats like FIP, xFIP?
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FanGraphs profiles have some MiLB FIP numbers, IIRC
But if you want L/R splits, I think they only do those for MLB numbers.
Here's DiFelice's FanGraphs page
It has FIP, but not xFIP.
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Yah, I got the FIP/xFIP
from statcorner, but they don’t have the splits either.
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on the fangraphs page, if you click on 'Splits' at the top,
it will take you to his splits stats.
Splits for FIP and xFIP are in his second frouping of stats.
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I'm looking for
this years (minor league) splits. Fangraphs doesn’t do milb splits yet.
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it could also be like in spring training
when relievers sometimes start just so it’s easy to control pitch count and who they face.
by Capt Science on Jun 3, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Could we be seeing the start of a Cardinals slump?
Maybe this is the time the Brewers could make up some ground. Maybe it’s finally time to…
Wait, they play the Cubs next. Never mind, they’re about to sweep the Cubs.
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by -JP- on Jun 3, 2011 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm on the record with my loathing of Aubrey Huff
For ruining my one and only game at Miller Park with a 2-HR effort to beat the Crew in 2008. But he came through last night. I hereby switch my loathing to A. Soriano. If the baseball gods are listening, may he have a multi-homer game this weekend.
Soriano is on the DL.
He won’t play in the series.
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Soriano was on the DL last I checked.
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Well, crud. Byrd? What, facial fractures? Okay, let's make it A-Ram or Pena.
The point is I just want one of the Cubbies to beat the Cards this weekend.
Aramis Ramirez is DTD right now
Probably should play, though. It’s just a face laceration from Wednesday, just needed stitches.
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I nominate Darwin Barney to beat the Cards.
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Can you blame me for not following the Cubs that closely?
I do know that Holliday is out for the Cards, so that helps a bit.
"One of you..."
“…will not be aggressive enough.”
by nullacct on Jun 3, 2011 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Rickie, it's not polite to eat Greinke's arm.
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He needs both arms to bat though.
And he does have more HR than Kotsay.
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Jim Abbott disagrees.
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by Flanyboy on Jun 3, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Comparing to the painting by Leonardo da Vinci of the Last Supper
Judas was in the fourth position in the painting, and he was the one who betrayed Jesus. So, relating it to the picture above, are you saying that Fielder will be the one who isn’t aggressive enough?
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Nope.
In the last supper, Peter is angry and his hand is in front of John’s throat, while Judas is seated between them and looks shocked. Clearly, it’s Kotsay’s fault.
If you go by the position of the heads
Judas would be the fourth from the left of the painting, though in the picture, it does look like he’s seated in the fifth position.
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I've looked closely at the picture for a while now
and it seems to me that the person who is meant to be the disciple John in fact looks remarkably like Mary Magdalene, who is in reality not a man but A WOMAN!!!!!
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by MrLeam on Jun 3, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say that to Braun's face
Now look what you did, you made him all sad and he’s missing tonight’s game.
Every day I'm amazed at all the stuff Kyle digs up for the Mug
And today is no exception. I mean, a photo of Jeremy Reed on base in a Brewers uniform? Wow.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jun 3, 2011 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
That's a rec or 3.
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Although, it's clearly a ST picture.
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Draft Room
If what Disciples of Uecker is true and that the Brewers are focusing on the players he mentions for their first round picks, looks like more of the same from DM and his draft staff.
I shouldnt say much because the draft isnt until next week, but when I see that they arent paying much attention to a bevy of top shelf pitching talent or high school position players that might be on hand for them, and instead are looking at fringe offensive guys like Mahtook and Springer, and a hot head like Baez, I start to worry.
Start to worry?
When did you stop?
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by Yar Nivek on Jun 3, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
By the same token
Considering how depleted they are, they should be comfortable paying enough money to sign 95% of available 1st round talent.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jun 3, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
What Disciples of Uecker article did you read?
Isn’t Javier Baez a prep position player?
Get a ife broseph
He hast top tier talent
But his makeup is a big concern for many scouts.
I have no problem with having someone on hand with tons of power, but if they are a head case, like lets say Gary Sheffield, do you want any part of that?
Taking a bit of a leap there, right?
Unnamed Scouts say player has makeup concerns = Gary Sheffield
I’d suspect one of the main reasons for bringing him to Milwaukee was to get a feel for the kid’s makeup.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jun 3, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How does he feel about Stewie Louis?
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Nyjer Morgan joke, but I accidentally reversed the names.
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I am the one that made the Sheffield leap
But bringing a kid to Milwaukee to work him out and test his makeup is kind of like having a conversation with any teen ager on earth and expecting the truth.
My point is that if you brought him to town to see if he was a nice kid, your’e not going to get a very accurate picture.
You can probably get more from a teenager than someone with more experience
And its not like they’ll ignore what scouts say based on talking with him, its just part of the evaluation.
Its like a job interview – you’re not going to learn everything about a person and no one is ever completely honest but you use the impression from the job interview combined with other things like past experience, references, performance, etc. in the decision to hire someone.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jun 3, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
If he actually hits like Sheffield, yes.
I’m willing to take that risk, since we’re so depleted of top-level talent.
But I understand your point. Do we go with the safer pick, or the one with more potential upside?
Gary Sheffield is actually a decent example
Guys taken after Sheffield in the 1986 draft: Brad Brink, Pat Lennon, Derrick May, Derek Parks, Scott Hemond, Ryan Bowen…and the list goes on.
Even knowing everything we know now, I’d still take Sheffield and his immense talent over the lesser players with great makeup (listed above).
They should obviously account for makeup, but if teams have a strict policy of avoiding guys with make-up questions, they’ll miss out on some elite MLB talent.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jun 3, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What scouts?
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
According to BA
Who talk to area scouts, cross checkers and FO people in making any evaluation
“Baez’ makeup is generally panned by scouts” they also state that he is “explosive”.
You are never going to get a name or even an orgatinaztion to go along with a quote like that, just because you cant directly attiribute a quote doesnt make it false.
That doesn't exactly make him a "head case"
Bryce Harper has a crappy “makeup” too…
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I have no problem with having someone on hand with tons of power, but if they are a head case, like lets say Gary Sheffield, do you want any part of that?
I’m not even sure how scouts can determine “makeup.” Did he murder somebody?
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
More info
SRB (WI): When scouts say Baez has “makeup issues,” what does that really mean and what is it based on?
Kevin Goldstein: There have been on the field issues. Everybody likes intensity, but he can be too intense, to the point where it almost seems like he is playing with anger. It’s not a massive issue that’s going to kill him.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
(I think that's silly, btw, but I guess I'm not a pro scout)
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by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember backtocali being much more concerned than the rest of us about Lawrie's "makeup," too
It doesn’t seem to be holding him back much.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jun 3, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You murdered somebody?
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
There's somethign wrong with him, now that the Brewers are looking at him.
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by tcyoung on Jun 3, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Melvin Corollary to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
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by Yar Nivek on Jun 3, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Plush your man could smell like
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by Yar Nivek on Jun 3, 2011 12:12 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
In other news...
the infection is spreading. Was watching some cooking show a couple nights ago that somehow involved the Phillies, and Jimmy Rollins made a cameo and was wearing a Remetee. I laughed, then I cried.
Jayson Stark linked to this, but I saw it via tristarscoop's twitter.
Here is a picture of Ty Cobb sliding into a catcher.
I wonder how Sabean would have reacted to that?
Looks like he's got his dukes up, too.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I've seen that same "slide" somewhere else...
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
He's going straight for the groin.
Cold-blooded.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jun 3, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
What was the line from Field of Dreams about Cobb?
Ty Cobb wanted to play, but none of us could stand the son-of-a-bitch when we were alive, so we told him to stick it!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe he should look into a career change?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe we should sign him.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Good idea
I’m thinking $5-$6mm plus incentives should get it done, especially since he is the next Chris Carpenter
Get a ife broseph
Burn
Keep in mind what you say, everything is on the record.
I like it.
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker
While everything is on the record
The dumb things are memorable
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jun 3, 2011 10:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha I was thinking of the same conversation
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
by Charlie Marlow on Jun 3, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
RED FLAG!
#Brewers LF Ryan Braun, who has not missed a game this year, is not in the starting lineup. Haven’t learned why yet.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Tonight's Lineup
Please try to not be too depressed by it.
2B Rickie Weeks
CF Nyjer Morgan
RF Corey Hart
1B Prince Fielder
3B Casey McGehee
LF Mark Kotsay
SS Yuniesky Betancourt
C Wil Nieves
LHP Randy Wolf
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Haven't learned why?
To get Kotsay more playing time, obviously.
Ryan Braun: He loves it. -- Four pitchers in history with 8.5+ WAR and <250 IP seasons: Greg Maddux (age 29), Pedro Martinez (age 28), Roger Clemens (age 27), Zack Greinke (age 25).
by SRB on Jun 3, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
TH Tweet
#Brewers LF Ryan Braun is not in starting lineup for first time because Roenicke wants to give him extra day to rest ailing left shoulder.
"You need to add a signature line about your sarcasm detector being broken like a Cubs fan’s spirit."
- molitorfan
Hey everybody, don't look now but BTC doesn't approve of a Brewers draft that hasn't happened yet.
Why does he announce this stuff like it’s some kind of revelation? The Brewers do something and BTC thinks it’s the wrong call. It’s as predictable as the sunrise.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 3, 2011 10:07 PM CDT reply actions
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