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by Kyle Lobner on Jul 14, 2011 11:17 AM CDT
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Some things to read while discovering West Consin.
Good morning and welcome to day two of the Francisco Rodriguez era. He's still our top story today, and here's what people are saying about him:
- Ron Roenicke told reporters yesterday that Rodriguez and John Axford will share closing and setup duties.
- John Axford welcomed K-Rod on Twitter.
- In an interview on WFAN, Mets GM Sandy Alderson hinted that one of the two PTBNLs may be a player who has played for the Brewers this season, but is in the minors now. Adam McCalvy noted that Mike McClendon fits those criteria.
- The Journal Sentinel has video of Doug Melvin's press conference, where he suggested none of the Brewers "top" prospects will be included on the PTBNL list.
- Dave Cameron says "Even if Brewers are planning on using K-Rod as a setup guy, what happens if Axford gets hurt? Betting 2012 budget against that seems unwise."
- Joe Pawlikowski of FanGraphs elaborated on that point, saying, "Really, the deal was a big bet on Axford. If he remains healthy and effective the deal should work out well. If not, well, the Brewers could be scrambling for solutions in the 2012 off-season.
- Matthew Pouliot of Hardball Talk says the world will not end if Rodriguez's option vests, saying the Brewers should be able to trade him if they're willing to eat $5 million of his 2012 salary.
- Alex of View From Bernie's Chalet reiterated some of my concerns with the deal.
- Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker noted that K-Rod had the right to veto trades to ten teams, but his former agent failed to submit the list of teams this spring.
- Jon Heyman says the Brewers and Mets both got what they need from this deal.
- Pat Lackey of WHYGAVS used this deal to draw a distinction between the Brewers and Pirates front offices.
- The Yankees were reportedly offered and rejected a similar deal.
- Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar notes that John Axford and LaTroy Hawkins are the only Brewer relievers with positive WPA on the season to this point.
- Rodriguez will take the roster spot vacated when Cody Scarpetta was returned to AA following Sunday's game.
- Cory Provus reacted to the deal here.
Today's best news might be this: Despite taking on some salary in the K-Rod deal, the Brewers aren't done making moves. Ken Rosenthal reports that they're still looking for opportunities to acquire a shortstop or third baseman. Adam Bernacchio of MLB Daily Dish thinks the Brewers should stick with Casey McGehee, but could improve at shortstop. Here's today's edition of Yuni Notes:
- He's the starting shortstop on Rob Neyer's 2011 Un-Star Team.
- Aaron Gleeman listed him as his third favorite active comedian.
- Yuni is featured prominently in Brewers in 11's fan fiction.
- If the Brewers don't have a sudden change of heart and DFA Yuni by the end of the day tomorrow, I'm going to owe Rubie a six pack of Abita Turbodog.
While the Brewers don't have much tradeable talent in their minor league system, they do have two of baseball's most valuable players on the roster now. Ryan Braun (#31) and Yovani Gallardo (#36) made Dave Cameron of FanGraphs' list of baseball's top players by trade value.
Speaking of Braun, David Laurila of FanGraphs talked to him and Rickie Weeks at the All Star Game about the art/science of hitting.
When the Brewers resume play tonight, it's likely Nyjer Morgan will be starting against right-hander Ubaldo Jimenez of the Rockies. Matt Klaassen of FanGraphs has a look at the Brewers' platoon in center field (FanShot). Adam McCalvy has a preview of the second half.
Rockies outfielder Carlos Gonzalez, however, will not be in the lineup. He's nursing a bruised wrist.
This is a pretty cool gesture by the team: They've taken out a full page ad in the Journal Sentinel this morning congratulating Prince Fielder on winning the All Star Game MVP.
Today's most interesting collection of charts and graphs await you at the following link: David Pinto of Baseball Analytics has a look at John Axford's ability to get swings and misses with fastballs up and curveballs down.
I keep feeling like we will eventually run out of things to say about Zack Greinke, but we never do. Today Royals Review compares Greinke to Roland 'Prez' Pryzbylewski from The Wire. I've never seen the show, so I have no idea what that means.
In the minors:
- Khris Davis made MLB Depth Charts' Under The Radar NL All Star Team. Toby Harrmann wants to know why he's still in Brevard County.
- FakeTeams listed Tyler Thornburg among their top prospects in the Florida State League, but discounted his performance a bit by noting that he's almost 23.
- Steve Gardner of USA Today says Caleb Gindl could make an impact as a potential callup for the Brewers. I like Gindl as much or more than the next guy, but I don't see it.
- The affiliates went 1-4 last night, with Kentrail Davis going 3-for-4 with two runs scored in Brevard County's 8-5 win over Jupiter. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- Wisconsin lost in heartbreaking fashion last night, giving up a grand slam in the 12th inning to fall 7-5 to West Michigan. I was there and took a picture of my messy scorebook for you. Rattler Radio has the video highlights.
- Ben Oglivie is West Michigan's hitting coach, and he talked to Mike Woods of the Appleton Post-Crescent before the game.
- Bus Leagues Baseball has an interview with Brevard County center fielder D'Vontrey Richardson. (h/t @SessileFielder)
- Stadium Journey has a largely negative review of Herschel Greer Stadium in Nashville, giving it 2.7 out of five stars.
- Marc Hulet of FanGraphs has a look back at his pre-season Brewer top ten prospect list.
Meanwhile, here's one player that won't be a Brewer minor leaguer: Mass Haas is reporting that 46th round pick Ahmad Christian has enrolled in classes at South Carolina and won't be signing.
The Brewers have been somewhat inactive in the Latin American market this summer, but Infield Fly Rule has a reminder of some of the successes (and failures) they've had there in the past.
In power rankings: Phil Rogers of the Chicago Tribune has the Brewers holding steady at 8.
Around baseball:
Cardinals: Signed pitcher Jaime Garcia to a four year, $27.5 million contract extension through 2015 with club options for 2016 and 2017.
Indians: Placed pitcher Mitch Talbot on the DL with a lower back strain.
Rangers: Released pitchers Manny Delcarmen and Seth McClung.
You already know about Garcia and much more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central, a key footstep on the path to enlightenment.
Today in baseball economics: The Marlins, who are struggling to draw fans in their final season at (ballpark name that will probably change before the Mug is published), are closing the upper deck at their games for the remainder of the season. They're averaging 17,274 fans per home game this season, over 5,000 per game worse than their nearest NL competitor (the Nationals).
It's been a while since we've had a BCB meetup: My plans to hold one on Opening Day fell through and I haven't really worked on one since. This Halos Heaven pinball tournament, though, got me thinking: Anyone know of a place in/around Milwaukee where we could do something similar? Would anyone be interested in doing it?
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to check my map.
Drink up.
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BCB Get together
Dont know about Pinball, but Dave and Buster’s is a pretty good place for that sort of thing perhaps.
Wasnt meant as an insult
I just picture clever lawyer with Kevin Gregg style eye glasses and “cool” hair cut hanging out on Brady street somewhere.
Jim Carey in Liar Liar
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
Other options
Paintball (downtown or south side) or laser tag (Waukesha)
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
This was actually my first thought too
They have bowling in the back room
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Jul 14, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Right
Two old wooden lanes with a kid setting the pins.
They also have arcade games and ping-pong tables. I’ve only been there with groups that reserved that area. Not sure how it works normally (if it’s only available for group reservations). If enough people come, it might be worth reserving it (although I have no idea how much it costs).
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
If you could get the meeting to coincide with a SABR group, or guy
They have all of their meetings there, and I think the owner is a supporter, so maybe there isnt even a fee involved.
Yankees
they didn’t want to acquire KRod because they thought it could make their injured-$10M-set-up-man-who-has-the-ability-to-opt-out-after-each-season unhappy?
that sounds like a good reason TO do it. make him opt out!
by Capt Science on Jul 14, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
3B
Do the Brewers really need to worry about that position? Yes, I realize that McGehee is struggling this season, but unlike SS, they do have an option down in Nashville (Green).
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Third base
the question becomes how much longer do we allow McGehee to struggle before giving Green a shot.
by bklynbrewcrew on Jul 14, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
My post was more towards Rosenthal's article
where he states that the Brewers are shopping for a SS or 3B replacement.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
JS Ad
OMG, he’s smiling!! Get the torches and pitchforks!!
Prince: "Brewers will win the World Series and I'll sign a 10-year deal in Milwaukee"
Braun: "Well, I guess there's just one thing to do then..."
by SAE on Jul 14, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I hate how the Brewers make a fake effort to celebrate a guy's accomplishments
Everyone knows its just to try to attract the best players to play for us. That ad reminds me of all the baseball players that play because of a nice hometown paper article instead of for millions of dollars.
Greinke: "It’s not about the guacamole itself. I just don’t want to let them win."
That just pisses me off.
How dare they celebrate the man who is taking the money and running after the season, only to remember his seasons in Milwaukee fondly as he’s rolling in cash.
The nerve.
Lurking in the waters of BCB since May 21, 2010
It's awful that they're just trying to make him cry when he up and leaves the city.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
K-Rod's option vesting
I don’t understand these arguments/concerns. The Brewers control that situation 100 percent. At some point, if this becomes an issue Melvin simply calls Roenicke and orders him not play in these situations.
by keephopealive on Jul 14, 2011 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Put yourself in the players shoes a sec
What happens if your employer tries to inhibit your salary? How does that make you feel about your employer?
Am I a professional baseball player?
Real world job comparisons to professional athlete’s jobs rarely, if ever work.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jul 14, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Money is money though
I used to work with a guy who played for the Steelers a ways back, and said that when playoff time came, Hines Ward was all pumped up about the playoffs, etc, and his takeaway for players that might make them not make the playoffs, or not go as far was “Dont fuck with my money”.
Anyone who has a job can relate to a possible payday being out there, whether part of a contract or not, and how you would feel if your employer made some sort of effort from keeping you apart from that payday.
No, I don't think that's true
I don’t think anyone who works a “normal” job can relate to someone who makes millions, the stakes are too different and the baseball industry is nothing like 99% of other, “normal” industries.
Its much to simplistic to look at your job and motivations and project that on a multi-millionaire in a crazy industry.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jul 14, 2011 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Depends on your definition of "inhibit," I guess.
Do you want $17.5 million next year or, say, $27 million over the next three?
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
He has to know by now that there's now way that option was going to vest.
I really don’t think it’s that big of a deal.
Not to mention that Boras doesn’t want that option to vest either and will be out trying to drum up the biggest contract he can for the guy.
My guess is he will play as hard as he can, the option just isn’t an issue.
For your health!
by menchkins on Jul 14, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does the employer care about how the employee feels?
And if someone calls the employer out on it, the employer can say that 17.5M is about 10 M more than he is worth.
by BrewCrewBrian on Jul 14, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
It depends on what the discussion is.
If the Brewers tell him that he has a shot at reaching 55 and then scheme to make sure he doesnt, then yeah that is crappy.
If they sit down and have a conversation where it is laid out that he won’t get the option, and his agent can break down the possible benefits for that…I think that can work out.
It is all about what they have been saying to Krod and Boras.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 14, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If they have the conversation where they say "We aren't going to let you get to 55"
I’m pretty sure that would be enough grounds for a players’ union challenge.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
My bad.
I guess I meant it more like they discuss it and come to an agreement (possible restructure) about his role, not necessarily just laying down the law.
by Bernie's Mustache Wax on Jul 14, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions
What happens?
I either look for a new job and eventually quit… or suck it up because there aren’t any better options out there.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Would a sub part 2 month stretch this year hurt him as a FA
a bit probably, but if he were unhappy enough, and decided to dog it the rest of the way, the financial penalty for him may not be as bad as one might think.
I don't think sharing the closer role (or being the setup guy) hurt him in FA one bit
In fact, sandbagging the rest of the way would probably hurt him more.
He already has off-the-field baggage that would keep some teams from considering him. If it also includes on-the-field issues, I think even more teams will avoid him.
The Brewers aren’t the only team that can use an extra closer in their bullpen… particularly at the price that the Brewers paid.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Jul 14, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Uh, happens all the time?
Layoffs, furlough days, pay freezes, not allowing employees to work overtime… The employer has a responsibility to run a business that makes money, otherwise that business fails.
http://www.mlbsoup.com
by tcyoung on Jul 14, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, this!
Criticizing the deal because of the “risk” of the option vesting is absurd. If Axford gets hurt, go with Saito, if Saito gets hurt, go with Hawkins, etc. Both of those guys are good enough that it’s feasible they could be the closer over K-Rod so there isn’t even really a possible grievance on his part (not that he would have any leverage anyways).
The deal was a steal barring one of the PTBNL being a decent prospect (unlikely and potentially impossible given the Brewers farm).
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
by SRB on Jul 14, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The MLBPA would absolutely destroy the Brewers if something like that happened
The Brewers are fine as long as Axford is healthy, but if he goes down Krod almost has to be the closer.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 14, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
There are still ways around it
They could just use Braddock to finish games… particularly if it’s against a LHB. K-Rod’s splits this season against LHB aren’t very good… .313/.373/.485.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I don't think they'd have any basis for that
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jul 14, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Saito might be the best reliever on the team and Hawkins has a 1.08 ERA this season
No way would Rodriguez’s side win that case.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
Right
Filing a grievance because a team didn’t pick a certain player to be their closer? That’d be interesting to prove.
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Jul 14, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know.
I think all Rodriguez’s side would have to prove is that the Brewers used his option as a contributing factor in the decision not to use him.
We’re talking about a guy with a sub 3 FIP and who set the MLB record for saves recently. If his option wasn’t an issue, then there’s no way the Brewers would ever consider using Hawkins or Saito in his place.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Saito is a former All Star closer too and Hawkins is the hot-hand
I’m not sure they’d have a case either way though. It would be different if his contract had an innings pitched benchmark (i.e. indicating health) and he was healthy but the Brewers didn’t let him pitch. I don’t think a contract can specify what role the player has to be used in.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
Right
But I think they have enough of a case to file a grievance…and then you’re playing with fire, because it ends up coming down to what one(?) arbitrator thinks.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Believe its 3 person panel
Playing with fire, but the its not a big deal if K-Rod’s case is so weak.
The option year based on GF, not IP is very odd and doesn’t make a lot of sense. With this and the failure to submit the no-trade clause, I don’t think its any wonder K-Rod changed agents.
Get a ife broseph
can i fedex my pitchfork and torch to RRR yet about splitting save opportunities?
or will it be better to send it priority?
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Jul 14, 2011 11:54 AM CDT reply actions
How about waiting to see what actually transpires?
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Jul 14, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
how DARE YOU
suggest i take a calm and rational point of view. this is AMERICA.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Jul 14, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
to the comparing players to characters from the wire:
i was really put off by comparing dayton moore to someone as scheming and brilliant as stringer, but they actually made some good comparisons. i might end up having to do something similar with brewers players.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Jul 14, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions
I would love to be a part of that, if ever done
by LosinCatmansLove on Jul 14, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Sign me up too.
The Wire. Best. Drama. Show. Ever.
by Brew Angel on Jul 14, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope when RR says "share closing duties"
He means KROD only gets the 9th if Ax pitches 3 days in a row.
The worrisome part of his comments was when he said they would both close games AND BOTH set up.
If he had just said the closing games thing I wouldn’t worry about it at all because, like you said, if Ax is overworked, then you let Rodriguez close the game.
The setting up comment is really disturbing to me though.
For your health!
This scenario was brought up in a different thread today...
Close game in the 8th inning with the heart of the lineup coming to bat. Bring in Axford, then have K-Rod finish the game against the bottom of the order.
Yes, I agree that RR’s comments were a little concerning, but I’m not going to get all worked up until I see how they are actually used.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Jul 14, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
WAIT, what? Kyle has never seen The Wire?
I don’t really know how to react to this. It’s a great effing show. I don’t know if I can even think about replacements for Yuni, RRR’s misuse of the bullpen, Casey McGehee’s down year, our draft picks, Doug Melvin’s thought process, the centerfield platoon, Prince’s free agency or Zack Greinke’s unluckiness until Kyle takes the 60 hours out of his week to watch it.
by Hangwith'em Rach on Jul 14, 2011 12:40 PM CDT reply actions
I haven't seen it either.
I don’t even know what the show is about. I’m guessing you’ll find many more people that have never seen it compared to those that have.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
I burned through it in about a week
It’s amazing, but obviously a bit of a time commitment to get through 5 seasons of an hour long HBO show.
Get a ife broseph
My wife watched every single Weeds episode on netflix
In about 2 weeks.
Much easier probably since its only a half hour.
But it is 20% easier
If someone does you a solid and tells you not to waste your time with Season 2. Nothing happens that you can’t catch up on with the opening montages of Season 3 episodes.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Jul 14, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
season 2 is fantastic, although a bit of a segue.
i thought it really humanized the city, and perspective from white-majority neighborhoods and issues that they faced (which were not that different from west side.)
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Jul 14, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
FSN is showing the wrong game this afternoon.
They have it listed as the comeback win against the Twins instead they are showing the terrible game from the next day.
Not sure if anyone is wanting
an article to cheer them up a bit…
Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE
this grading scale is maddening.
giving fukudome a C- because in a streak where he hit 371 he only had one rbi? isn’t that the rest of the lineup’s fault?
oh, wait, i’m trying to make sense of bizzaro BCB.
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Jul 14, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of maddening:
my favorite part was all the players that were referred to as “maddening” in the piece: I got Fukudome, Zambrano, and Garza before I lost count.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
it's maddening as hell, and i'm not going to take it anymore!
i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!
by sowingwildoats on Jul 14, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
More on the K-Rod deal
For anyone wondering how Melvin was able to get K-Rod for essentially nothing, it seems that K-Rod’s former agent (mistakenly?) never submitted the list of ten teams for K-Rod’s no-trade clause; thus, as of this week he could technically be traded anywhere. The Mets were obviously worried about Boras (his new agent) noticing this and correcting it, thus making it substantially more difficult for the Mets to unload K-Rod and avoid the $17.5 million option, so they wanted to pull the trigger as soon as possible, which ended up being to the Brewers benefit.
If they had waited longer, Boras potentially could have submitted a list of contending teams with established closers (since that’s the type of team that needed to take on K-Rod) and prevented the Mets from unloading him. Melvin was probably the first GM to offer acceptable terms, so he got K-Rod.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
Yeah, just saw that.
But it was never actually submitted? Not sure what was going on there.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
I read the Heyman article
My understanding was that though some small market teams were on the list, the Brewers were not on any list.
Still its interesting that they shipped him so soon after he switched to Boras.
Heyman tweeted Brewers were on list...
http://twitter.com/#!/SI_JonHeyman/status/91587889040859136
Closer by committee
I really doubt that RR is going to share that role. I think Axford is going to stay in the 9th inning role and K-Rod will go into the “8th inning” role.
I think everyone is just trying to say all the right things to keep the union at bay. The Brewers can argue that Axford is established and is flourishing as the closer and that K-Rod is not markedly better, so he will stay there and I don’t think the union could prevent a strong case that he is being held back.
There is no way that KRod finishes 55 games this year, the management just has to go through the charade that he has a chance.
I’m a little worried about the whole thing blowing up, but hopefully he’ll take everything in stride.
If he pitches well he could still be looking at a two year $20 million contract with the $3.5 million buyout thrown in.
Boras should just tear up the vesting option and hope that the Brewers let him close to make him more marketable.
Blowing up
What are you referring to? Even if Axford is injured/ineffective, the Brewers have other options in the pen to ensure that they aren’t letting K-Rod finish 21 games.
Even without the vesting option, do you think the Brewers would use him more? He’s been less effective than Axford this season.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Sandy Alderson quote
I thought the rules dictated that a PTBNL cannot have played in the same league as the team he’s being traded for? In any event, I think this is a complete list of players who have been on the MLB Brewers this season but are currently in the minors:
Wil Nieves
Erick Almonte
Mat Gamel (40)
Brandon Boggs
Mike Rivera
Brandon Kintzler (40) – 15 DL
Daniel Ray Herrera (40)
Mitch Stetter (40) – 15 DL
Mark DiFelice (40)
Mike McClendon (40)
Sean Green
Tim Dillard (40)
Cody Scarpetta* (40)
I thought there was also a rule about PTBNLs not being on the 40-man roster, but I can’t seem to find that now so maybe not.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
Obviously, you can probably cross Gamel and Scarpetta off that list
I also don’t see how it could be Manny Parra, who might not even pitch again this season.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
It's possible Parra is one of the players on the list of options
But he’d have to get healthy enough to come off the DL, or the Mets will take someone else.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
It can't be Parra
Being on the ML DL means he’s technically still on the 25…he’s not eligible
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 14, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He's not eligible if nothing changes
By the time the decision has to be made (Sept), he may be off the DL and sent down.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
60-day DL means he's not counted as being on the active or the 40-man roster
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
If that's the list (minus those two)
then I have no problems with any two going. Heck, I wouldn’t be too upset if they took the entire list.
Boggs is probably hoping to be included. It’s fairly obvious he isn’t going to get any playing time from the Brewers, and if the Mets trade away Beltran, they’ll need to add another OF to their roster.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I don't know if I'd agree with that
The one place the Mets minors are loaded is with OF talent, and there are at least three solid corner OF prospects waiting their turn to get in the mix. More than likely Alderson focused on pitching.
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 14, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not familiar with the Mets' farm system, so you're probably right.
If that’s the case, the list is probably down to:
Kintzler, Herrera, McClendon and Dillard
The rest are probably too old for a team that’s rebuilding.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
PTBNL's can be on the 40, but not the 25
As long as they are in the minors at the time of the deal it’s all good
by Stephen Schmidt on Jul 14, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Listening to the audio, all Alderson said was that one of the possible players has "been in the majors and had some success there" or something to that effect
Other Brewers minor leaguers who have appeared in the majors:
RHP Josh Butler (AAA)
RHP Frankie de la Cruz (AAA)
LHP Sam Narron (AAA)
RHP Zack Segovia (AAA)
LHP Chase Wright (AAA)
LHP Manny Parra (60-day DL)
3B/SS Andy Gonzalez (AAA)
SS Edwin Maysonet (AAA)
OF/1B Jordan Brown (AAA)
OF Brett Carroll (AAA)
C Shawn Riggans (AA)
SS/2B Anderson Machado (AA)
RHP Mark Rogers (Rk)
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
I would think those are the two players on that list least likely to be included. I’m guessing he was referring to one of the relievers (e.g. McClendon or Green or somebody)
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
i was looking at the "some success" part
i guess being an average reliever is somewhat successful
Lurking in the waters of BCB since May 21, 2010
You can cross Chase Wright off the list
Brewers just released him.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
it's about time
I hate to see guys get released, but Wright completely went off the rails this season
Lineup
2B Rickie Weeks
CF Nyjer Morgan
LF Ryan Braun
1B Prince Fielder
RF Corey Hart
3B Casey McGehee
SS Yuniesky Betancourt
C Jonathan Lucroy
P Yovani Gallardo
LF Ryan Braun
:)
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
by SRB on Jul 14, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That lineup actually looks passable now.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 14, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess its thunderstorming in Denver
Here’s to Hoping we get the game in tonight
by proachinf on Jul 14, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I have a dumb question and apologize for it as I'm sure it's been covered already.
but is K-Rod now under contract with us for next year as well, or is it just if he reaches the games finished mark?
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Jul 14, 2011 4:16 PM CDT reply actions
There is a $17.5 million option that vests if he hits the games finished mark. If he doesn’t hit the mark, the option doesn’t vest, so it’s just a normal option and the Brewers can either exercise it for $17.5 million or pay the buyout of $3.5 million.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
So
Who else loves the fact that Terry Francona is crying about home field advantage in the playoffs being determined by the ASG now that it’s gone against his league 2 years in a row now. I’ll bet you didn’t mind it all that much for the previous 7 years, including 2004 and 2007, when you guys won the World Series. Didn’t seem like so much of a problem then, did it Terry?
The Brewers at Miller Park: "ALL WE DO IS WIN, WIN, WIN NO MATTER WHAT"
The Brewers on the road: "all we do is lose, lose lose, no matter what..."
Oh, by the way
In ‘04, the Cardinals record was 105-57, yours was 98-64. You didn’t deserve 4 home games. You think that helped you win?
The Brewers at Miller Park: "ALL WE DO IS WIN, WIN, WIN NO MATTER WHAT"
The Brewers on the road: "all we do is lose, lose lose, no matter what..."
K-Rod was just on MLB Network
Seemed fairly positive about the trade, said Axford has done a great job for the Brewers and wasn’t clear yet what his own role was, but that his job right now is just to be ready when he gets the call in the bullpen.
"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"
by SRB on Jul 14, 2011 5:53 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Needs more link.
The Brewers at Miller Park: "ALL WE DO IS WIN, WIN, WIN NO MATTER WHAT"
The Brewers on the road: "all we do is lose, lose lose, no matter what..."
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
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26 | 20 | .565 | 0 | Won 1 |
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St. Louis
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25 | 22 | .531 | 1.5 | Lost 3 |
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Houston
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22 | 24 | .478 | 4 | Lost 1 |
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Pittsburgh
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22 | 24 | .478 | 4 | Won 2 |
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Milwaukee
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19 | 27 | .413 | 7 | Lost 1 |
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Chicago
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15 | 31 | .326 | 11 | Lost 11 |
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