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Tuesday's Frosty Mug

Shaun Marcum didn't recognize the "grand slam" sign at first, but figured it out eventually.

Some things to read while upgrading. (h/t Toby Harrmann)

Even AZ Snake Pit dropped a "WTF" after the Brewers blew a 6-1 lead by allowing seven unanswered runs and lost 8-6 to the Diamondbacks yesterday. 

As is always the case following a tough loss, a fair amount of the blame is being focused on Ron Roenicke, who sent Kameron Loe to the mound as his "eighth inning guy" again yesterday and suffered what's become an all-too-frequent result. Over at Ron Roenicke Stole My Baseball, Rubie Q announced he's done attending Brewer games until Roenicke is gone. Roenicke, for whatever it's worth, says he used Loe in the eighth because Zach Braddock was unavailable and he's still easing Takashi Saito back in.

Yesterday's collapse caused the Brewers to waste one of the rarest feats in franchise history: Shaun Marcum's grand slam was the first by a Brewer pitcher since the team moved to Milwaukee in 1970 and only the second in franchise history (Fred Talbot did it for the Pilots in 1969). It was also the first in the majors since Brad Penny did it in May of 2010.

Giving up a grand slam to Marcum probably answered this question: Dave Gershman of Beyond the Box Score asked if Daniel Hudson is one of baseball's elite starters.

Other notes from the field:

  • Corey Hart's home run was overshadowed a bit by Marcum's slam, but it traveled 440 feet and bounced off the sign below the scoreboard in center.
  • Hart and Marcum's homers were two of the Brewers' six hits in the fourth inning, the most the Brewers have had in a single frame this season.
  • Chris Young, John Axford and Daniel Hudson are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game voting.
  • 41,622 paid to see yesterday's game. BrewHaHeather can verify that I looked around during the 3rd/4th innings and predicted a crowd of 41,700.
  • The Chorizo won the Sausage Race.

The two teams resume play today, with Randy Wolf taking the mound against Zach Duke. Avi Zaleon of MLB.com has the preview. Also, Nicole answered some questions for AZ Snake Pit as part of their series preview.

Ryan Braun missed his second straight game yesterday with a calf strain, but may not be out much longer: He told reporters he's feeling good. Despite some suspected voting shenanigans, he won Brewer of the Week for the third time over the weekend. 

Yesterday's loss dropped the Brewers to 1-7 in their last eight games, and even the lone win was an unlikely one: @Stats_MLB notes that the seven run comeback in that game was the Brewers' largest since April of 2004.

Elsewhere in unlikely numbers from Saturday: Chris Narveson allowed 14 hits while recording just 14 outs in the game, becoming the first pitcher to allow 14 or more hits in 5 or fewer innings since Mark Buehrle in 2008.

Here's something you probably know: Prince Fielder is pretty good. Here are some things people have said about him recently:

Fielder is, of course, one of three Brewers who have been selected to start the All Star Game. Hangwith'em Rach gave this week's El Super to the fans who helped get them there.

Thankfully, Yuniesky Betancourt is not one of those All Stars. Betancourt batted fifth yesterday and went 0-for-4, snapping a four game hitting streak. Here are today's Yuni Notes:

Casey McGehee had a pretty good day batting seventh yesterday: He picked up a double and a single in his first two plate appearances. Nonetheless, Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker noticed some inconsistencies between what the Brewers are saying and doing with McGehee. The Brewer third baseman got a vote of confidence from Doug Melvin over the weekend, but Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar has a reminder that Melvin quotes are virtually worthless.

Meanwhile, interleague play is over and Mat Gamel has not been sent back to Nashville as many of us expected. Yesterday he played briefly in left field following a double switch, and he's also played third and first base during his brief stay with the team. 

Another day, more stories on Zack Greinke: Tom Haudricourt has a look at his struggles to live up to expectations and Adam McCalvy says he's still working to figure out why he's been giving up so many runs.

The Brewers were pretty awful at home yesterday, but they've been worse on the road. Cory Provus lists the 1987 Twins as another team that was successful despite rarely winning away from home.

This is quickly becoming one of my pet peeves: Brian Anderson has a picture of the lineup card from one of this weekend's games against the Twins, which appears to have been painstakingly crafted by bench coach Jerry Narron. I still think it's possible that ridiculous calligraphy is Narron's only role with this team, since you never seem to hear about him doing anything else.

This says a fair amount about how poor the NL Central has been lately: The Brewers took over first place and remained within a game of it for most of the month despite going just 14-13, their worst showing of the season.

We don't have any actual trade rumors to report today, but expect them to start flying this week: The Brewers have called all of their pro scouts back to Miller Park this week to discuss trade deadline possibilites.

In the minors:

In power rankings:

Meanwhile, Timothy Malcolm compared the Brewers to coffee flavored ice cream. (h/t Big League Stew)

Around baseball:

Athletics: Designated pitcher Bobby Cramer for assignment.
Blue Jays: Designated infielder Jayson Nix and outfielder Juan Rivera for assignment.
Cubs: Placed pitchers Carlos Zambrano (lower back soreness) and Marcos Mateo (elbow) on the DL.
Diamondbacks: Placed closer J.J. Putz on the DL with elbow tendonitis.
Dodgers: Placed third baseman Casey Blake on the DL with a sore neck.
Indians: Placed pitcher Fausto Carmona on the DL with a quad strain.
Mariners: Reliever Royce Ring has exercised an out clause in his minor league contract and is now a free agent. 
Marlins: Designated infielder Jose Lopez for assignment.
Mets: Signed pitcher Miguel Batista to a minor league deal.
Nationals: Placed infielder/outfielder Jerry Hairston on the DL with a broken wrist.
Pirates: Placed shortstop Ronny Cedeno on the DL with a concussion.
Rangers: Designated pitcher Dave Bush for assignment.
Rays: Released pitcher Chris Bootcheck.
Red Sox: Designated outfielder Mike Cameron for assignment.
Rockies: Acquired second baseman Mark Ellis and cash from the A's for pitcher Bruce Billings and a PTBNL.
Tigers: Fired pitching coach Rick Knapp.

This could be the end of the road for Cameron, who is 38 and was hitting .149/.212/.266 for the Red Sox before being DFA'd. David Golebiewski of FanGraphs says Cameron was a "Stealth Star" of the 90's and '00s.

If you were away from technology entirely during the holiday weekend (maybe you stayed in a cave or something), you might not have heard that Albert Pujols could rejoin the Cardinals today. You already know that and much more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central, which Rubie presumably wrote from a place that's not Miller Park.

Today in former Brewers: The Royals have promoted Jake Odorizzi to AA.

Each year on Independence Day and a few other holidays Major League Baseball busts out themed uniforms or caps, and a fair number of us complain about the atrocities (all red caps in 2009, the white "ice cream man" hats in 2010 and this year's trucker cap wannabes, for example). This morning, we should all take a moment to thank the Trenton Thunder (and a rehabbing Derek Jeter) for showing us just how much worse things could be.

Here's another reminder that things could always be worse: Astros catcher Humberto Quintero, on a rehab assignment in Memphis, was locked out of his hotel while police investigated a murder. When he finally received his luggage at his new lodgings, someone had gone through it. Nothing was reported missing.

I've linked to a fair number of NotGraphs' Adventures of Joe West over the last few months, but this one might be my favorite: Navin Vaswani has a rare image of West's VCR.

Now, if you'll excuse me, it's time to start eating again.

Drink up.

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Important word missing here I think:

“Shaun Marcum’s grand slam was the first by a Brewer since the team moved to Milwaukee in 1970 and only the second in franchise history "

Should it say first by a Brewers pitcher? Not the second grand slam in Brewers history, surely.

by kotsaythebuzzkill on Jul 5, 2011 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I know you've given the definitive answer

But I think we need corroboration from a number of other people and/or sources before we’re prepared to accept that…

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aaron Gleeman is trying to do too much with it.

just stick with Yuni’d, as in, “The Brewers really Yuni’d those last two games, and now I’m contemplating suicide.”

See, works just fine.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Haha

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, I stand corrected

though I do believe they are synonomous

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

So

Yuni is Kitten Mittons? To be honest, I’m surprised he lasted more than a week in the fantasy league given the rest of the stuff he must read about himself here…

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

the worst part is that he could still make the playoffs, he's only 1 game out of a playoff spot right now.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about KM or Yuni?

"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush

by thefreewheelin76 on Jul 5, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

There apparently is no difference when it come's to being a verb

but in this case, KM

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fixed

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 5, 2011 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

We should grab Juan Rivera if we can

He’d be a far more valuable bench player than anything we’ve got now (especially if that means getting rid of Kotsay)

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

A pro-rated portion of the league minimum?

I’m guessing a trade gets worked out, though. Give them back the cash they gave us for Villy!

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 5, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think that you are going to owe Rubie a 6 pack.

You might want to try to go double or nothing for August 2nd.

by BrewCrewBrian on Jul 5, 2011 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't double-or-nothing six-pack bets.

You want to get your money back, we upgrade to Pimm’s.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've asked this a few times, but no one has answereed....

Does anyone know how the Mexican AAA leagues work?
Luis Cruz is currently playing there.

He was hitting pretty well at AAA for the Rangers but now he’s in the Mexican league.

Do the Rangers still control him? How does that work?

I want him back, at least he can play defense and take an occasional walk FFS

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Quick google search

Makes it seem like the league is indpendent but takes on alot of MLB contracted players. So, if I had to guess, the Rangers still have control over him and sent him to play there instead of at their normal AAA for some reason.

by uwbadgers on Jul 5, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to a Rangers blogger, Scott Lucas

He was released by the Rangers and intends to spend some time in Japan.

Round Rock’s Luis Cruz going to Mexico for a spell, then Japan. Texas honoring his 7/4 out date a bit early. Your Luis Cruz update.
Since the Mexican League AAA teams are not formally associated with major league teams, it’s likely his minor league contract could be purchased by any team.
His slash in Round Rock with the Rangers over 269 PA: .279/.309/.446. His Mexico numbers come off of 23 PA so they’re not exactly indicative of his talent level. If he does still have plus defense, he would be more like 2011 Craig Counsell with a little power than anything else.

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right. which is a hell of a lot better than what we have now.

I would much rather have a plus defender at SS who isn’t a great hitter than one who isn’t either.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Seriously....

How can he NOT do this?!
the guy is going to head to Japan?!
Com on! we know he’ll be better than Betancourt. Even a small upgrade is still an upgrade, especially one that’s so cheap.

How doe we get a hold of Melvin? He probably isn’t even aware of this.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure Doug believes in fielding metrics

Vs. the power of the one highlight film play Yuni made earlier in the season

by nullacct on Jul 5, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better yet

Have Mark A. tell Doug that his salary in the second half will be tied to the shortstop’s WAR.

by nullacct on Jul 5, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hello, Jose Reyes

Goodbye, every single other player in the system.

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 5, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

Dump the lot of them and just ride the wave, baby. In two years our pitching will run out and we’ll suck for a couple years, but that’s why we draft new guys every year.

Make it happen DM!

by nullacct on Jul 5, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

They are going to be asking for an A+ prospect. I dont think this farm system has an A prospect – hell I don’t know if there is a B

by BrewCrewBrian on Jul 5, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hyatt will volunteer to punch him in the crotch.

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 5, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

who? and I'm so in.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the answer was you

Would you still do it? I know how much you love a good crotch punch…

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

the giving

the receiving is just as awful for anyone.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

All of which

and the Kitten Mittons discussion reminds me that I still can’t believe that Ian Kinsler hit a home run the other day immediately after receiving a totally wicked Hyatting

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I fully endorse the verb-ing of my name in this regard.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check out the home plate umpire in that game...

Good ole Bob Davidson.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Melvin

We want him to go get Luis Cruz who now available, hanging out in Mexican AAA and planning on heading to Japan.

We thought maybe a punch to the crotch would convince him.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

But we already have "2011 Craig Counsell"

and his name is Craig Counsell.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

We don't have one that can play every day

Also, Cruz would probably hit marginally better than Counsell

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not trusting what they say
But while Ash would not totally rule out acquiring a regular, he said, “it’s not at the top of the list.”

It’s not like they could say they were actively looking for a permanent replacement. That wouldn’t be too particularly motivating for McGehee or Yuni. I hope that in private that is exactly at the top of the list barring some payroll ceiling troubles with lower-than-expected attendance.

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 12:36 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Need to know if the roof will be opened or closed for the Brewers game?

Call the Miller Park roof hotline!

Side question: If they’re willing to set up a hotline for this, why not just have a page at Brewers.com with this information?

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 12:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Logistics, probably

Miller Park can run the hotline completely in house. They would have to work with the Brewers and MLB.com’s formal formatting rules to make a change to the website.

If you know anyone that wants traffic to their blog, however, it won’t take much to set up a ticker themselves. Just dial in to the hotline and upload the info to their blog.

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That brings up another question.

Does Miller Park operate independently in any way, or is it all controlled by the Brewers?

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miller Park is owned and operated by the "Southeast Wisconsin Professional Baseball District"

Link

Although I’m sure they can’t just do anything with the ballpark… particularly if it affects games or opponents (like shut-off the hot water to the visitor’s clubhouse).

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just about all teams, if not all teams, operate separate from the stadium

If for no other reason than limited liability, it makes sense to keep ownership of the franchise separate from the stadium. The teams lease the stadium over long-term contracts. It’s usually a legal linchpin when public money is spent to build a new stadium – the team in question has to sign a 30-year lease or some such. Conflicts occasionally arise over this, notably the renaming of the Anaheim Angels. Leasing conflicts were actually the crux of Major League.

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the John and Cait blog

they said an icon or link on Brewers.com will be happening in the future

I swear they used to have this – when the stadium was new. I don’t know why they every got rid of it

by Nicole Haase on Jul 5, 2011 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Playoff odds from

Baseball Prospectus have NL Central chances of making the playoffs as:

Cards: 55.8%
Brewers: 40.2%
Reds: 13.7%
Pirates: 2.3%%
Cubs: 0.1%
Astros: 0.0%

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Trade deadline always changes these things

If the Brewers are talking about improvement through the trade market, the Cardinals and Reds have to be thinking that way, too. Those would change the projections a bit.

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Big changes from week to week as well

Also goes off of projections. So if a trade is made, and the projection was good, coupled with current performance, they will be updated for better or worse.

If Im not mistaken, for this report, the Brewers (and whoever is 2nd in the NLC) would lose out on Wild Card to the Braves.

by backtocali on Jul 5, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Current Performance is a part of these?

Then it’s really not reasonable to give much credence to these, as we’re coming off a trip where we played 2 of the toughest teams in the AL, and the Cards played 2 of the worst…

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by tcyoung on Jul 5, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I probably was too heavy in saying that.

But I would expect the Brewers numbers to have been higher, and the Cardinals numbers to be lower on just about any other given week.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 5, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Cards have been projected to be the winners for the NLC

By BP for most of the year. Part of this metric, I believe, includes Pecota projections as the develop as the season goes on. Part of the reason that the Pirates are doing so poorly on it.

by backtocali on Jul 5, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to think

Are there any realistic trade candidates out there (other than Reyes, who’s looking more and more like he’s staying put) who would significantly alter playoff projections? Heath Bell and Mike Adams? Wandy Rodriguez? K-Rod? Carlos Quentin?

Any big names I’m missing?

by Cheeseandcorn on Jul 5, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is he even an upgrade over Hart?

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by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe defensively?

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depends on where RR uses Hart in the batting order.

If he’s batting higher in the order with some protection behind him Hart is a beast. If not, he’s an average hiter with little to no power.

That’s the way it’s been this season anyway.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Part of it is that half the league is still in the playoff hunt

When even the Pirates aren’t sellers, there won’t be much available for trade. Teams will only be fine tuning, for the most part. JJ Hardy might be one of the biggest impact players on the market.

An unintended side effect of expanding the playoffs may be a dearth of trades.

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's shocking considering the scope, depth and breadth of the crushing injuries that the Cardinals have suffered this season

They are so good.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are blessed

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gamel

WTF LOL!

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Huh?

What about him?

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about just searching for "Gamel"?

It’s not like his name appears multiple times in the Mug.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure I'll tell you

Mat Gamel is still with the team, despite interleague being over, and has played in the OF, 3B and 1B for the team.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

@jh_moore: BREAKING: Casey McGehee found not guilty.

"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"

by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Huh?

What’s with all of the vague comments?

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

shruggity

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know nothing about this case

So it’s not going to make any sense to me.

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least there's always

this.

You deserve it, you evil little gremlin.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a little cold.

I agree, it’s not something to worry about too much but it is a little girl who was murdered.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

A little girl who died*

"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"

by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Despite the media portrayal, there wasn't much evidence

I guess the defense (successfully?) argued that it was an accident. Hopefully the whole thing can be laid to rest now.

"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"

by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't they still try her for negligent manslaughter or something?

like “oops my kid died”, and then also some sort of conspiracy? I mean I think a jury hasn’t made a blunder this bad since OJ, and everyone pretty much knows she did it. There’s still a chance she could go to prison for a very long time, if I’m not mistaken.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope.

They threw the kit and kaboodle at her with the eight charges that were filed. Can’t try again.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

True dat

Double indemnity or whatever it’s called….
Can’t be tried twice for the same crime.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interestingly

Over here they’ve changed the law on that in the last few years and you can be tried again (I think just for major crimes, e.g. murder) if there’s major new evidence, normally scientific, that suggests very strongly you’re guilty…

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by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Y'all are crazy over there.

If I remember correctly, your version of the restraining order is particularly wild.

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by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

The craziest one

is the libel laws which make it notoriously easy to get convictions and have been hugely criticised for stopping free speech. It is relatively common for companies or people which have been allegedly libelled on the Internet or in a number of countries to deliberately choose to bring the case in the UK as they have such a good chance of winning…

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
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by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

You get a rec

my boss grew up in Florida

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surely a tragedy, however

We wouldn’t have to care at all if the media didn’t shove this thing in our face to the point that we seem insensitive if we aren’t keenly aware of the details, and failing to show an emotional response becomes reflective of an absence of empathy instead of a failure to soak up FOX newsbites.

Dear 24-hour news media: Quit telling me what to care about.

by nullacct on Jul 5, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

CARE ABOUT THE YANKEES AND RED SOX!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 5, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I bet Nancy Grace is a Cardinals fan.

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by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh relax

I couldn’t think of anything to say about Gamel so I went with WTF LOL! It seemed like a good choice. Sorry to stress you out.

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's official

Breaking news from the official MLB Twitter account:

BREAKING: Cardinals to activate Albert Pujols for tonight’s game against Reds.

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Unreal.

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by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

All Hail.

http://www.mlbsoup.com

by tcyoung on Jul 5, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

As much as I don't like him for eating babies

that’s just amazing. Hats off to him.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, definitely not HGH

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That TransFat label can't be accurate.

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by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Albert Pujols supports Stem Cell Research

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 5, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That makes him the anti-Suppan

Which must make him good, which can’t be right…

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Disagreeing with a bad baseball player on a political issue

does not make you a “good” person.

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 5, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

But in that case

There’s no link between success at sports and morality, in which case my most fervent belief that sports winners are superior humans to the rest of us has been shattered!

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame myself

Ever since I made that crazy prediction on Monday, the Brewers have just gone downhill.

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

You totally BEARDEDJEFF'd it.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

By the way, that wasn't yesterday.

I was talking about the Monday off-day before the Yankees series.

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by -JP- on Jul 5, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

16 days folks

that’s how long it takes to heal a broken wrist.

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not six weeks, like most online references suggest.

Particularly when one wishes to participate at a high level of athletics.

by Noah Jarosh on Jul 5, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because, honestly

after how that baby acted after the collision that ‘fractured’ his wrist, how could the Cardinals Monastery NOT say it was broken?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why can't

Pujols use his healing powers for good. Like curing the extreme headache this guy must be having…

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"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or cancer?

AIDS?

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it was probably a mild break but he's got to be using HGH

I would be really interested in hearing a doctor’s perspective on this.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think

HGH does anything for broken bones.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't think human growth hormone helps bones heal faster?

I think you’re wrong.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reference
Growth hormone deficiency in adults is rare and may be caused by pituitary adenoma — a tumor on the pituitary gland — or treatment of the adenoma with surgery or radiotherapy. For adults who have a growth hormone deficiency, injections of human growth hormone can:

Increase bone density
Increase muscle mass
Decrease body fat
Increase exercise capacity

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/growth-hormone/HA00030does some good work.

Also, WebMD usually does a nice job:

HGH, produced by the pituitary gland, spurs growth in children and adolescents. It also helps to regulate body composition, body fluids, muscle and bone growth, sugar and fat metabolism, and possibly heart function. Produced synthetically, HGH is the active ingredient in a number of prescription drugs and in other products available widely over the Internet.

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

HGH

Seriously, there is no other explanation for this. There needs to be an investigation.
I don’t buy the idea of them overstating the severity of the injury, there would be no reason for them to do that.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 5, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course there's reason

PR reason.

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he caught a fly with chopsticks

So, Mr Miyagi did the hand rubbing/healing thing for him.

Where are the trolls when you actually want them?

by SAE on Jul 5, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

What puzzles me about the manager

is he has a successful platoon in center but doesn’t try it at short or third base.

I like platoons. Basically keeps the entire roster sharp or semi-sharp.

And none of these guys are a guy making big money so a manager should be able to manage the egos.

by Big10freak on Jul 5, 2011 3:50 PM CDT reply actions  

MLB Daily Dish

Another site on the SB Nation speculates that the Brewers might make Casey McGehee available, and replace him this season at 3B with Mat Gamel.

Link

Who would want him right now, or how many bags of batting practice balls they could get in return, is anyones guess.

by backtocali on Jul 5, 2011 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, Doug Melvin is notorious for utterly botching 'peak value' assessments on players

and then selling low on them.

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Prince's HR Derby selections: Weeks, Holliday, Kemp

Rickie’s going to win.

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by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Full lineup:

2B Weeks
CF Gomez
RF Hart
1B Fielder
SS Yuni
3B McGehee
LF Wilson
C Kottaras
P Wolf

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by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

When did Tuesday become the new Sunday?

by Bush League All Star on Jul 5, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roenicke's just a big Morrissey fan.

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by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Roenicke's Big Mouth Strikes Again...

Less than proud owner of Marmol Says Knock McLouth (BCB League III)
"Now attribute that shit!" mpbMKE

by MrLeam on Jul 5, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure it wasn't margaritas with Taco Tuesday?

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 5, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

if yuni's batting fifth

then, yes, every day is silent and grey.

by Capt Science on Jul 5, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha sick

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

We trip over ourselves to get another right-handed bat in the outfield

and yet Randy’s non-personal personal catcher gets the start against a lefty. Terrific.

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by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please Note

There is an excellent opportunity for RR to start Kotsay in the OF, and he is not doing so.

by nullacct on Jul 5, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

This

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that error changed his mind about him

Because it cannot possibly be because how he hit his last two games.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wilson in LF? Interesting, but at least it has this going for it.

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by Yar Nivek on Jul 5, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least I can switch channels after Fielder bats

because 5-9 is a black hole

"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush

by thefreewheelin76 on Jul 5, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed completely

I like George but against lefties I doubt he will do much.

by Big10freak on Jul 5, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

which also begs the question

why is narron writin’ all fancy-like and learning to spell names in japanese instead of checking out player stats and splits?

by Capt Science on Jul 5, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe he does

And RR just ignores them and goes with his “gut”.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 5, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flagged as inappropriate.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I forgot about Narron

Not shocking.

But I’m with Kyle. What the hell does he do? Except for write the lineup card in beautiful 19th century script, and laugh with Ron after the pitcher hits a granny?

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

B.A. on a broadcast said Narron and Roenicke are talking constantly during games

Something about how Roenicke can’t follow all of the details in the game anymore as a manager and he relies on his coaches.

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by ecocd on Jul 5, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy Christ.

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by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh really?

Because I’ve only seen 2 shots that I remember Narron standing next to Roenicke all season. I mostly see Kranitz talking to him. In fact I don’t know if I could pick Narron out of a lineup.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

he didn't say "talking about baseball"

probably more like favorite movies and stuff.

by Capt Science on Jul 5, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

One time a goat bit my sister.

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by Rubie Q on Jul 5, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i just keep laughing, thinking about this. so you get a rec.

(sadly, that’s probably something ronron will say to jerry during tonight’s game.)

by Capt Science on Jul 5, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha
Should I start Kotsay or save him to PH for the catcher?

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

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by Charlie Marlow on Jul 5, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

They matchup kinda nicely

Prince-Ortiz: large gutted sluggers
Bautista-Kemp: Slugging outfielders
Rickie-Cano: homer hitting 2nd basemen
Holliday-Gonzalez: Home run hitters whose numbers became more realistic when they moved from ballparks where homers go to die to more homer friendly confines.

Still though, edge to an AL victor.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Jul 5, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would put money down on Rickie Weeks!!!

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by SRB on Jul 5, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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