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Drew Stubbs watches Rickie Weeks' fifth inning home run go over the fence to give the Brewers a 4-2 lead.

Some things to read while finding a better place for your pocketknives. (h/t @dwalsh76)

The Brewers made it two in a row by winning their third game in ten opportunities against the Reds last night, and did so while using LaTroy Hawkins in place of Kameron Loe in the eighth inning. Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar says Ron Roenicke's bullpen usage is improving, but still isn't convinced that he gets it.

John Axford allowed a solo home run but still recorded his 23rd save of the season last night, and his 20th in as many opportunities. He's only the fourth Brewer pitcher ever to go 20-for-20. Last night's home run also snapped a streak of 39 consecutive outings for Axford without allowing a home run, which is the 13th longest streak in franchise history. The streak began after Ramon Hernandez's home run on Opening Day, and ended on his solo shot last night.

Other notes from the field:

The two teams play the second game in their four game series tonight, and Cash Kruth of MLB.com has the preview. Zack Greinke will be on the mound for the Brewers, and Miller Park Drunk says it's time for him to wake up.

Greinke, meanwhile, is still making $13.5 million this season. He (15.8%), Prince Fielder (18.1%) and Randy Wolf (11.1%) made B-Ref's list of baseball's 100 highest paid players by percentage of their team's payroll.

It's frequently overlooked, but the ability of a catcher to position himself well and frame pitches for the umpire plays an important role in getting strike calls. Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker has a couple of examples from last night where the way Jonathan Lucroy handled a pitch might have impacted the way it was called.

At Grantland, Rany Jazayerli has an interesting extended post on the Brewers, the relative rarity of a team remaining in contention with poor defense, and the possibility that offense is becoming an undervalued commodity. He says the Brewers "might be the worst defensive infield for a contending club in major league history" and "it will be a mild upset if the Brewers aren't the worst team in the majors come 2013." (FanShot) Over at Ron Roenicke Stole My Baseball, Supertramp has a nice rebuttal.

Ryan Braun sat out once again last night, and he's still questionable for the All Star Game on Tuesday. Ron Roenicke dispelled the notion, though, that Braun will sit out on Tuesday if he doesn't play this weekend, implying that he'd like Braun to get a couple of at bats if he's healthy enough to do so.

Meanwhile, this logic is making my head hurt: Doug Melvin stopped by last night's FS Wisconsin broadcast and mentioned that if Braun plays in the All Star Game, the Brewers can no longer backdate a potential DL trip. Unless Braun could play in the ASG at less than 100% (which would be horrifically dumb), I'm not sure why one even spends time thinking about that.

Justin Bopp of Beyond the Box Score, by the way, has a look at the NL's ASG lineup by the numbers.

In the minors:

While the poutine and racing sausage kabobs were the most talked-about new food items at Miller Park before the season, the pork parfait has become the leading topic of conversation lately. Howie Magner of Milwaukee Magazine tried one this week and offers his review.

Around baseball:

Cardinals: Designated pitcher Bryan Augenstein for assignment.
Padres: Placed catcher Nick Hundley on the DL. He's expected to undergo elbow surgery.
Rays: Placed pitcher Wade Davis on the DL with a forearm strain.

Arizona did the Brewers a favor last night, beating the Cardinals 4-1 to bring the Crew back into a first place tie in the Central. You know that and much more if you've read this morning's silky smooth edition of Around the NL Central.

Meanwhile, the Cardinals may be close to having contract news to announce: They're rumored to be nearing agreement on a four year extension for pitcher Jaime Garcia that would keep him in St. Louis through 2015.

Our "things could always be worse" note for today involves the Astros once again. They've trimmed $36 million from their payroll over the last three years.

Today in former Brewers:

On Saturday the Brewers and most other major league teams will wear replica Negro League uniforms as part of a celebration of that segment of baseball history. The Royals, however, have decided not to purchase uniforms despite the fact that Kansas City is the home of the Negro League Museum.

The Common Man of The Platoon Advantage is doing a great job this week with his look at the state of major league umpiring. Today he notes that Joe West and his crew already have 17 ejections in 2011, which is 42% more than any other crew.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to write more questions.

Drink up.

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The idea of Braun getting ASG ABs to get reps is ridiculous

Also, pretty sure the picture of Stubbs is for Narveson’s ground rule double. Rickie’s shot put a dent a pillar – I’m worried it structurally damaged Miller Park.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Weeks' HR

Yep, you’re right. Weeks’ HR was more to the right of the AmFam sign and hit just below where the camera is located.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brewers worst team in the majors by 2013?

How can that be possible?

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on Jul 8, 2011 11:13 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Astros are getting contracted?

Where are the trolls when you actually want them?

by SAE on Jul 8, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

No idea...

They should be able to extend one of Marcum or Greinke, still will have Braun, Weeks, Hart, Lucroy, McGehee or a better McGehee replacement, definitely a better shortstop, Morgan, Gamel, Gallardo, Narveson, Axford and by then one or two of the decent minor league starting pitchers will probably be up.

Weeks / Morgan / Braun / Hart / Gamel / McGehee / HAINLEY / Lucroy
Gallardo / Marcum / Narveson / Thornburg / Heckathorn + Axford
plus fungible bullpen and bench parts

that should still be a pretty dang good team

fka "warwick5s"

by DEUCE SLUICE on Jul 8, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Jungmann is projected to be major league ready by then as well

it wouldn’t surprise me to see him called up that year. Maybe halfway through the year if not at the beginning.

by Fiesta on Jul 8, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if he is ready

Its a bit much to expect him to be at the peak of his ceiling in his first year. Probably would take about 3 years for him to become an effective #3 starter.

by backtocali on Jul 8, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice job, slipping that in there.

"PLUSH ALERT: THERE WAS AN UNTUCKING AT FENWAY!"

by SRB on Jul 8, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I mean, yes we’re losing Fielder, Marcum, and Brienke, but we should have one good prospect fill out the rotation and can easily sign someone with the $35m+ coming off the books…

"I don't even know who Bryce Harper is — hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" -Nyjer Morgan

by JAMOOL on Jul 8, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Utterly ridiculous

to think that any team with Braun, Weeks, and Gallardo on it will be the worst in baseball but if we dont have Greinke or Marcum we will not be a contending team most likely. We have pretty much nothing coming from the minors and replacing Fielder will be much harder than some let on.

by bklynbrewcrew on Jul 8, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Might not be an incredibly wise move to do so`

Age, injury history, and performance dont really necessitate the need for it.

He started out very strong this year but is only on pace for a “good” or “above average” type of season, compared to the first two months.

I mean if the intent were to spend the money to have that vet arm that can produce as opposed to a cheap black hole spot in the rotation. But it then begs the question “Why give an average pitcher tons of money to stick around, if you can pay a pre arb guy a heck of a lot less and maybe get the same production?”

by backtocali on Jul 8, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

there are no pre arb guys in this system

that could give ‘above average’ performance for a 3rd-2nd starter. And we’ll need those guys that can perform to fill out the other holes (3, 4 and/or 5 depending on where narv-dog slots)

by Fiesta on Jul 8, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Granted, no top of rotation guys

Especially by 2013, or any time soon.

But there are about 3 guys in the system who should be able to fill out the bottom of the rotation by 2013 in Peralta, Rivas, Scarpetta or Heckathorn. And by the time 2013 rolls around, Marcum could wind up being a bottom of the rotation guy. So why pay hiim $10 mil per if you have 4 guys who you can pay $450k per year and get the same results.

by backtocali on Jul 8, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

assuming that all those guys stick as starters. It’s very possible and even likely that at least half that group transitions into relief.

I get what your saying though. It does make sense not to overpay for a commodity you already have. I just don’t know if the Brewers will have those commodities.

by Fiesta on Jul 8, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a good point

I just dont think that extending someone who potentially can only give you average production going forward is such a good idea. Especially for a small market team.

His market rate by the time hehits FA is probably in the $10 million a year range, and thats a heck of a lot of money to pay for a guy like him. I mean look at how that has worked out so far with Wolf and how it did with Suppan.

by backtocali on Jul 8, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would argue that wolf

has been worth close to what we’ve paid him so far. He’s no where even close to the bust Suppan was.

by Fiesta on Jul 8, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, you remember the start of each season?

There’s little chance Wolf will be worth what the Brewers paid him over the life of the contract, but he’s still giving them some value and he’s certainly earning his 2011 paycheck. That puts him head and shoulders above Hall and Suppan.

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by ecocd on Jul 8, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I don’t really care if he is “worth” his contract, I want him to add value to the team, and he does that.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

In 2010 Wolf was a 2.1 fwar pitcher

Fangraphs has the $$$ of a win at 4.5 mil per win (in 2008. I couldn’t find more recent numbers). At 10m per year, Wolf needs to be a 2.2 war pitcher to earn his contract. This year he’s already amassed 1.7 fwar in the first half.

Thats why I say he’s been worth his contract. The cost of a free agent win was almost perfectly in line in 2010, and he’s easily going to surpass it this year, barring a massive collapse after the ASB.

by Fiesta on Jul 8, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

not fwar

brain fart. I was using BR war.

by Fiesta on Jul 8, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plus, he's only around for 1 more year isn't he?

He’s not even in the same league as Suppan as far as worthlessness.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wolf

Has produced 1.3 WAR in his 2 years here and has made abour $14 million. That translates to about $7.5 million worth of overpayment. Definitely not Suppan esque but not a very good value for the franchise.

by backtocali on Jul 8, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still don't mind the Wolf deal

Sub 4.00 ERA this year, the Brewers wouldn’t be where they are now without him

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's a big "maybe".

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

His last three seasons he pitched

He’s posted WHIPs of
1.16
1.15
1.11 (so far this year)

All with ERAs under 4 That’s pretty damn good. His highest ERA was 4.13 in a full season.

His injury was a Tommy John surgery wasn’t it? Not generally likely to repeat.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like the fact that he's a finesse guy rather than a flamethrower.

Look how effective Maddux was after he lost his stuff. Marcum doesn’t really have much stuff to lose. If he can keep his control I don’t see why he won’t be a good pitcher for another 5 years or so.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maddux

Was one of the greater pitchers of all time. I could pull up 1,000 finesse pitchers who lost their stuff then sucked.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean besides his health, right?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sure he does

If his changeup becomes even slightly less effective, be it location, deception, whatever – he’s toast.

Look, I’m not saying that he’s going to suck as he gets older, just that if you’re playing the odds- you’d probably bet that he will be less effective as he ages.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's certainly possible.

It just seems that it would be much more difficult for players who lose a big fastball to adjust to being a finesse pitcher as they age, rather than one who has always been a finesse pitcher.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jamie Moyer?

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He pitched till he was like 900 years old.

He also never put up the consistently solid WHIPs that Marcum has

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Because he ‘only’ throws 90 mph, he will never lose velocity as he gets older?

Let’s say I can throw 70 mph, and I’m 25 years old. Now, when I’m 38, I bet I won’t be able to throw 70 mph anymore. You don’t have to be able to throw 100 in order to have your muscles and tendons deteriorate….

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by tcyoung on Jul 8, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hoffman's average fastball velocity

has been in the mid 80s for the past decade. According to Fangraphs, his average fastball velocity in 2010 was 84.5. In 2009, it was 85.5.

Hoffman isn’t a very good example. For starters he had one of the (if not the) best changeups in the game. Plus, he was only a closer, so he had much fewer miles on his arm.

The biggest knock against Marcum is that his mechanics aren’t conducive for a long career (potential injury risk).

Also, while there are exceptions (Hoffman, Ryan and Moyer), generally pitchers lose their stuff with age (whether it be velocity, control or both).

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

People are talking like MArcum is going on 40 or something.

He’s 29 isn’t he?

I’m guessing he’ll be fine for several more years.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that ballplayers generally start declining once they hit their 30s.

Don’t get me wrong… if Marcum is willing to sign a three year deal like Wolf’s, I’d be okay with that.

However, to think that Marcum is going to be able to pitch as effectively into his mid-to-late 30s just because he doesn’t have as much “stuff” to lose is a huge expectation.

For every Hoffman and Maddux, there are many, many others who didn’t pitch much farther into their 30s (both finess and fireballers alike). There’s a reason both of those guys are headed to the HOF… they are the exception.

Both were great pitchers before they hit their 30s. Even Maddux started to decline once he hit his 30s. Granted, he started out at such a high level that his decline was still better than most pitchers in the league.

Marcum isn’t nearly a good as Maddux was at 29, so I would expect a decline to be much more noticeable.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some definitely do but there are guys like Chris Carpenter (36) who stay good for quite a while evn battling numerous injuries.

There’s no way to know what will happen with Marcum but I think it would be a good gamble to give him a 3 or 4 year extension.

It could turn out bad but he’s been so consistent that if he stays healthy I’d be surprised if he didn’t end up being worth a Wolf-esque contract.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well they shouldn't sign him to a 10-year deal

If you’re going to sign any free agents though, 29 is not very old at all. You generally don’t get to sign guys when they’re still at their peak. I can see other reasons for not wanting to extend Marcum though.

I think it all depends on the money (i.e. how much he would sign for)

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by SRB on Jul 8, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sort of hope not

I like Marcum and all, but he’s a finesse pitcher with an injury history, not someone I want to lock up long term. If they can get him on a shorter deal that’d be awesome but they need to be careful not to make an unnecessary commitment.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be fine with that

I suspect he’ll demand more than that on the market, but maybe with his history, he won’t.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hit tracker had Weeks' HR at 114.5 mph off the bat

Good for a tie for 26th fastest HR. It was out in a hurry, as they say.

Founder of the BCBCU - Est. 2011

by ecocd on Jul 8, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

in other transactions

mike trout was called up. i imagine futures game ticket holders are somewhat sad.

by Capt Science on Jul 8, 2011 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

luckily, the Mariners sent down Mike Carp last week

I don’t think those two should be in the same league at the same time, much less the same division.

by plunkeveryone on Jul 8, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beware

if Tim Salmon gets into coaching.

by Archibaldcrane on Jul 8, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Kevin Bass

The Angels also have Robert Fish in the minors.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kendall

The KC paper makes the Kendall surgery sound potentially career ending, with Ned Yost saying it’s more of a “quality of life surgery”. The surgeon said Kendall is probably out until 2013 at least.
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/07/07/3001062/kendall-suffers-shoulder-setback.html

Obviously this leaves me in a major dilemma because the way I look at things my favorite player in the game, and the player who I’ll argue is the best in the game at any given time is the active leader in HBPs. If Kendall is gone, that leaves me stuck with Jason Giambi, and if he retires after this year I’d be left with Jeter and Arod. That may force me to switch my whole focus away from HBPs to some other stat. Anyone want to read a website all about sacrifice flies?

by plunkeveryone on Jul 8, 2011 12:04 PM CDT reply actions  

that stat always bothers me

because it excludes people who line into double plays. also it’s kind of depressing because the leaders tend to be washed up guys who are slow and should retire. And, Jeter is 4th in among actives so I might end up with the same problem.

by plunkeveryone on Jul 8, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, you could use that "block jeter" program

and i guess i just assumed it included lined out double plays. but that still creates the problem with the strike-em-out-throw-em-out variety.

anyway, i was kidding. how about bunt hits? those are fun and under utilized these days. it’ll also be fun to look at certain sacrifices and argue those guys were going for hits, etc…

but i suspect you’ll continue with plunkings regardless. and that’s good.

by Capt Science on Jul 8, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Help me Danny Espinosa, you're my only hope.

unless Chase Utley, Carlos Quentin, Rickie Weeks or Prince Fielder gets there first.

Utley is 25 plunks behind the chunder twins. Weeks and Quentin are 64 back. Aaron Rowand is 30 behind, but he always seems like he’s on the brink of being DFAd. He might break Kevin Kouzmanoff’s record for HBPs in a season with an OBP under .300.

by plunkeveryone on Jul 8, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You have to stay the course

If nothing else so we can have you post gems like this sentence:
“He might break Kevin Kouzmanoff’s record for HBPs in a season with an OBP under .300.”
The fact that you know and track that is a thing of beauty

by Junked on Jul 8, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here's one angle:

Craig Biggio was hit by pitches in 2.2% of his major league PAs. There are 29 active players with at least 10 career HBP who get hit 2% of the time or more. Giambi, Utley, Aaron Rowand and Reed Johnson are the four with more than 100 career HBP.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Jul 8, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It seems to me that would get you more exposure, however.

Given that the Yankees are on of only two teams in major league baseball, tracking Arod and Jeter will get you a lot more exposure. If a guy that imitates batting stances can get 15 minutes of fame, someone that tracks NYY HBP’s surely can get his (her?) time in the sun, too.

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by ecocd on Jul 8, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wily Peralta mention on the BA hotsheet

LINK

The Scoop: Peralta has steadily improved each season since Tommy John surgery knocked him out for all of 2007. After posting a 3.61 ERA and a 29-24 K-BB mark in eight starts last year with Double-A Huntsville, Peralta’s ERA (3.95) is up slightly this year, but scouts have been more impressed. He throws a low-90s fastball that reaches the mid-90s, and he has improved his strikeout-to-walk numbers, with 86 whiffs and 36 walks in 87 innings. He’s also the rare pitcher who gets both strikeouts and groundballs. If he can stay healthy, Peralta has the potential to be a solid mid-rotation starter

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

The Royals have to be at the pinnacle of “Sh!tty franchise that used to be a well run organization” in all of professional sports. Milwaukee has a made up connection to the Negro Leagues, and somehow finds the spare scratch to come up with uniforms. Seriously, if the problem is cost work out a deal to use the Monarchs as an alternate jersey like the Brewers use the 82 unis and make a little off jersey sales.

What a bunch of tools.

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Jul 8, 2011 1:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Jersey sales

I don’t think Royals jerseys sell very well.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Jersey Sales

I believe jersey and any pro shop item is split evenly throughout the MLB teams. Am I wrong in that assumption?

"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker

by ASerd87 on Jul 8, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, I'm pretty sure that's correct

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

They need to come up with ~$30K

A marketing team slightly more competent than the guys advising LeBron James should be able to do that in their sleep.

When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved

by Getting Yosted on Jul 8, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard that last night during the game

Guy hasn’t pitched in a MLB game for a year. He’s been decent down in Triple-A, so who knows what he’ll be like. The Brewers make Zach Duke look pretty good.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who knows?

I’m done trying to figure out what pitchers the Brewers will hit and what ones they won’t.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha, exactly.

We need to face Roy Halladay more often apparently

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually...

In his first season (2005), he faced the Brewers twice… winning both games (2.57 ERA/1.071 WHIP). He also wasn’t too bad in 2006 (four out of five starts were quality starts).

It’s true, though, that the next four years the Brewers pretty much owned him.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

A little disappointed I can't watch any of these home games.

To see what Jeff Cirillo is like in the booth. Curious to see how he is. I’m sure he’s a heck of a lot better than Rock, hopefully everybody can fill me in.

by icecreamman on Jul 8, 2011 2:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I reckon Rock is OK

Admittedly, perhaps that’s partly having had to listen to the “Minaya fiasco” the other day, but I reckon we could probably do worse…

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by MrLeam on Jul 8, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard far worse

Tom Kelly is filling in for Bert Blyleven this weekend. Why did Bert and Rock have to go on vacation at the same time? FS North could have got Cirillo in there if not; he’s an ex-Twin.

(Kelly’s still better than that time Ken Macha filled in for Jerry Remy on Patriots’ Day in 2008. in case you do not know, that’s also the same day as the Boston Marathon, and the Sox start the game at iirc 11 AM Eastern. I got up at 10 to watch the Sox before my shift and was nearly late to work because listening to Macha put me back to sleep.)

by morineko on Jul 9, 2011 3:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's been on FSN before

but I don’t know if he’s actually called a game.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time for Gamel to start hitting

Weeks 4
Morgan 8
Hart 9
Fielder 3
Gamel 5
Kotsay 7
Betancourt 6
Lucroy 2
Greinke 1

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 2:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Two

Chapman and Bray

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 8, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Surprised they don't flip Yuni and Kotsay

Or something like that, in order to break up the Fielder – Gamel – Kotsay string.

Thought I guess the strategy will be to bring in McGehee for Gamel again.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

And GoGo for Kotsay?

I really don’t want to see Carlos face Chapman again. The first time was painful enough.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 8, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know if it matters too much

Even if Betancourt and Kotsay were swapped in the lineup, I think Baker wouldn’t have a problem keeping Chapman in to pitch to Yuni.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you're right.

I wasn’t contemplating switching up the lineup so much as wondering what they’d do if Chapman came in with Kotsay due up.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 8, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably either McGehee, Wilson or Gomez

Depending on who’s still available at that point.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

Forgot about Braun.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't really want to see anyone on the team face Chapman

Unless Braun can PH, it probably doesn’t matter.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Chapman is on, pretty uch everyone looks awful against him.

Let’s hope he turns in to the walking machine again if he enters the game.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good lord

Chapman has 12 Ks, 1 BB and allowed 2 Hits in 6 innings since he returned from the minors/DL or wherever he was.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you see the game against the Cardinals on Monday?

12 fastballs. Average velocity: 100.6 mph. One slider, just for esses and gees.

Poor Punto couldn’t wait to strike out and get the rock out of there.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Jul 8, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

When the Reds signed him I was really disappointed that the Brewers hadn't been in on him.

Especially at the time when we were looking for pitching. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a pitcher with a higher upside than Chapman. It will be interesting to see if they make him a starter and if they do, I’m REALLY curious to see how he does and how hard he throws in a starting role. Hopefully for the Brewers sake, he won’t end up being very good. I don’t want to see a young, left handed Justin Verlander in out division.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a side note I find this hilarious.

He had his arm tattooed with 105.1 mph

Link

He then threw a pitch that was 106 mph

That just cracks me up.

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by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

He really needs to throw a pitch at 106.1 mph

That’s relatively easily fixed. 106.0 would be difficult.

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by ecocd on Jul 8, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he can just put an "X" through 105.1 then have 106 added.

I seem to recall a commercial like that with a guy that had multiple tattoos with women’s names crossed off.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't be too disappointed

Despite all the hype surrounding him, I don’t think the Brewers are willing to pay that kind of money (6 yrs/$30.25M plus $16.25M signing bonus) on an unproven talent… regardless of the potential upside.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wasn't aware of the signing bonus.

The salary seemed pretty reasonable to me (albeit a risk)

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Signing bonus

is spread out through 2020, so it’s not a huge hit to the payroll each season, but they’ll likely be paying him after he’s already left the organization.

There’s also some other clauses in his contract about additional bonuses if he becomes arby-eligible after 2012 and 2013.

BTW – I had his contract wrong (Cot’s worded it oddly). His contract is really 5 yrs/$9M with a $16.25M bonus plus an option (player’s) for $5M. Cot’s listed it as 6 yrs/$30.25M (which includes the signing bonus as well as the option year).

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course, if the Brewers had signed him

He’d still be in Huntsville working on his change up.

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by ecocd on Jul 8, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well...

If the Reds want him to be a starter someday, I think he’ll need to learn another pitch. I believe he only has a fastball and a slider.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's upside and there's downside

I seem to recall that the Brewers have had two relievers in the past 5 seasons who managed to get the gun over 100 mph on the semi-regular. One’s out of baseball because his shoulder’s wrecked and the other’s been topping out at 92-93 in AAA. Oh, yeah, and the walks.

by morineko on Jul 9, 2011 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Also

Prior to Willis joining the team, they didn’t have a lefty in their rotation.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think his days with the team are numbered

I think once Braun is back, they’ll send Gamel down so that they can add another pitcher to the bullpen.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah agree

Would be nice if he made it a difficult decision. They wouldn’t force him in a 3B unless they wanted him to try to win a job at that position.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Jul 8, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right

Seems like RR was willing to try to put him anywhere in the field just to get his bat into the lineup.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really hope you are right.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Jul 8, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised the took McGehee out of the lineup again.

Much rather see Gamel hitting behind Fielder than Kotsay but that’s a lot of lefties in a row.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

He didn't look so good again last night (3 popups)

Plus, I think RR is giving Gamel a chance to prove he is ready to hit MLB pitching… regardless of his defense.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

After his walkoff HR against the Cubs, he did go hitless the following game, but then went on a tear (11 game hitting streak).

Hopefully it’ll happen again.

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's hope for this.

I was pissed when Bruce made that sliding catch on him last night. Dude could use a break FFS.

For your health!

by menchkins on Jul 8, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two

Chapman and Bray

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Jul 8, 2011 2:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Reply fail

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

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