Game Recap: Brewers 1, Buccos 0
by roguejim on Aug 13, 2011 9:14 PM CDT
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WP: Marco Estrada (3-7)
LP: Kevin Correia (12-11)
SV: John Axford (34)
HR: Yuniesky Betancourt (9)
MVP: Marco Estrada (+.350 total, +.295 pitching, +.055 batting)
LVP: Casey McGehee (-.093)
Sorry this is so short --- I'm typing this on my phone on the way home from Wauwatosa. A pair of unlikely heroes powered the Brewers this afternoon at Miller Park. Marco Estrada held the Rats to one hit over five innings, and Yuni Betancourt(!) knocked one out of the park for the game's only run, leading the Crew to their 15th win in their past 17 games. The Pirates threatened in the 9th when Xavier Paul led off with a triple over the head of T-Plush, but Axford coerced two groundouts in a drawn-up infield before striking out Neil Walker to end the game. The loss was the Pirates' 35th in their last 38 games in Milwaukee.
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"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I'll handle that
Just got back from the game myself.
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Not really
I was walking around at the time, not in my seat. I heard Greinke’s at-bat music playing, but I didn’t realize he was batting until he was actually announced. I got back just in time to see the ball from the bunt hit the ground and him run down the first base line and off the field.
So, maybe 5-10 seconds of actually seeing him in a game…
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"People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."- Rogers Hornsby
by icecreamman on Aug 13, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you!
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
Cardinals lose.
5.0 games up.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Ah the word "knowingly"
ESPN with a LaRussa story reviewing his career
When they bring up steroids Tony uses Bonds phrasing
I thought that amusing
by Big10freak on Aug 13, 2011 9:32 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
TLR never knowingly purchased steroids for McGwire on his personal credit card
And never knowingly stabbed him with the needle in the ass, threatening to replace him with Dmitri Young if he ever stopped juicing.
When you're blackout drunk all day...
you can deny “knowingly” doing anything!
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Games like today's are why I'm not crazy about Pythagorean Record as a way to evaluate teams
The Brewers reached base 12 times and accumulated 12 total bases. The Pirates reached base 4 times and accumulated 5 total bases. Pythag says the Brewers were lucky to win this one. Every other stat says the Pirates were lucky to even be close.
I much prefer Baseball Prospectus’ 2nd and 3rd Order Winning Percentages, which are much better at measuring how well teams play than just looking at how many runs they score.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 13, 2011 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Pythag record
assumes that over the long run, teams will score a number of runs in line with the number of runners they put on base. I also prefer 2nd and 3rd order winning percentages because they use expected runs based on the types of base hits that happened, but regular pythagorean record assumes that games like today are balanced out in the long run by games where the same hits yield a score of 6-1.
Right
But they don’t exactly balance out. If they did, second-order win percentage would be more or less identical to Pythag, and it’s obviously not. Second-order has been much kinder to the Brewers all year than first-order, which means it hasn’t evened out for them.
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 13, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Question for those of you in the game thread today.
While at the game, I saw this post from BrewCrewBall on Twitter:
I want someone to untuck a jersey and shove it down Mitch Williams throat. #***hole
(Censoring added.)
Two questions:
- Who wrote this?
- What was going on during the broadcast to provoke this?
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I don't know who wrote it.
Williams spent a good deal of time on how he was against the untucking.
And the bowling pin homer celebration.
And then they showed a random highlight of a fairly dirty Fielder slide from 4 years ago.
I hope we’re never a national game on Fox again.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
In fairness
Mitch williams is a loudmouth blowhard who substitutes volume for insight. So it isn’t really his fault. Like being angry at a puppy for peeing in the carpet.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Aug 13, 2011 10:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I got two words for Mitch
Joe Carter
by nullacct on Aug 13, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
For most of the game
It seemed that, as far as the announcers where concerned, the Pirates were the only team worth mentioning at the game today, and that the Brewers where merely the incidental team whom the Pirates had to face.
IMHO (and to follow up on what kept getting harped on by the Fox announcers), If your team has set a record in the past week of being the first team to go from 1st place to 10 games under in 13 days, then YOU ARE NO LONGER A CINDERELLA TEAM.
I’d rather be forced to take a coast-to-coast road-trip with Tony La Russa (even letting him drive for some of the time) while he explained the intricacies of sportsmanship to me, than have to listen to that Fox announcing duo again.
by The Lone Figure on Aug 13, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think Kyle is the only one with access to the account outside of posting links from here.
by Noah Jarosh on Aug 13, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed
the account is linked to the main editorial account here, so that’s how articles get posted to Twitter, but I don’t think that Kyle’s actually shared the password out.
maybe it’s time to list the contributor Twitter accounts again.
@roguejim
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
I was mainly curious
Wasn’t sure if other people had access to it or not.
It seemed like a pretty harsh comment, but I didn’t know the situation it was said in.
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It was well deserved
You cannot fully appreciate how bad Williams was. The best thing he could’ve done to help the broadcast was to just shut-up the entire time. When he said he didn’t like untucking because he was “old school”, he deserved that tweet.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
by sjlee on Aug 13, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Marlins just randomly optioned their second best hitter to AAA (Logan Morrison)
I’m sure the Brewers would take him off their hands if they don’t want him. Could be in 1B/RF mix next season.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Are they saving service time...?
I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful
I guess technically
I think it’s more that they are managed by a crazy old man.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Or that their management is very cheap
I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful
Yeah but you can’t just demote every young player during a losing season. I don’t even think they again anything in reality, since this won’t add a full year of pre-arbitration control.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Then I have no idea why they'd do that
I was disappointed with the lack of hookers but the pancakes were delightful
Off the field stuff
He wasn’t showing up to team functions off the field (ala the Brewer block parties) and they got pissed – at least that’s the rumor
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Aug 14, 2011 10:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Neither were the fans.
The Brewers at Miller Park: "ALL WE DO IS WIN, WIN, WIN NO MATTER WHAT"
The Brewers on the road: See above
by Tepo6688 on Aug 14, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Had to rec this.
"People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."- Rogers Hornsby
Third best maybe?
Stanton and Sanchez ahead of him.
by Noah Jarosh on Aug 13, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Stanton’s #1, Hanley’s on the DL and has been bad this season anyways. Morrison’s better than Sanchez.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Maybe in a year or two he'll be better than Sanchez, but I don't think so right now.
by Noah Jarosh on Aug 13, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Well either way, Marlins randomly demoted one of the better hitters!
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Hey, don't mock my exclamation point usage! Exclamation points are great!
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
True Dat.
.251 BA, .328 OBP, .468 SLG, .796 OPS
40 R, 17 HR, 60 RBI, 38 BB, 79 SO.
-0.2 WAR
Marlins might need to start explaining that one.
by Bush League All Star on Aug 13, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
And he's batting .273/.351/.486 this month
So it’s not that he’s slumping and needs to work something out.
What the hell?
by Cheeseandcorn on Aug 13, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
BCB Scoreboard
NL Central
Houston 0 – LA Dodgers 4; B5
Chicago Cubs 8 – Atlanta 4; F
San Diego 1 – Cincinnati 13; F
Colorado 6 – St. Louis 1; F
Playoff Contenders
Washington 3 – Philadelphia 11; F
San Francisco 3 – Florida 0; F
NY Mets 4 – Arizona 6
Playoff Picture – NL Central
Milwaukee --
St. Louis 5 GB
Cincinnati 10.5 GB
Pittsburgh 12 GB
Chicago Cubs 17 GB
Houston 30.5 GB
Wild Card
Atlanta -
Milwaukee 1 GB
Arizona 3 GB
San Francisco 5 GB
St. Louis 6 GB
by Bush League All Star on Aug 13, 2011 10:52 PM CDT reply actions
Note for Wild Card
Italics means they are the division leader, but would be their position otherwise.
by Bush League All Star on Aug 13, 2011 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If my math is right...
The magic number for the Brewers right now is 38.
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Probably too early right now....
… but at some point I’d like to see a magic number countdown on the main site.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 14, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Is anyone else a little tired of T Plush looking like a little league Center Fielder at times
Do not get me wrong I love what he has brought to the team but when it comes to running the ball down to deep center he scares the shat out of me. Today is not the first time he made me think " Gomez would have caught that"
I just wish he would take better routes to the ball
hell of a job by Ax to pitch out of that mess
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
He's still better than 90% of CF's around the MLB.
Gomez would get to balls that Usain Bolt couldn’t reach.
by Noah Jarosh on Aug 13, 2011 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I understand but I am worried that one of these times his misadventures are going
to bite us in the ass.
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Yeah, it might.
But he has significantly less misadventures (thus significantly less of a chance of it biting us in the ass) than most other outfielders.
by Noah Jarosh on Aug 13, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh.
That’s probably true. But only a small handful of CFs would have made that catch, Gomez being one of them. And I’m not sure we’d be leading the Central if we had Gomez playing center over Mr. Plush all this time.
"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"
dont get me wrong not looking to replace Nijer
just saying he makes me nervous at times that is all. Much more good than bad with T-Plush, I will also admit I am nitpicking a bit too.
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
I think a lot of CFs don't even get close to that ball so they don't look as bad...
… as Nyjer did.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 14, 2011 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
"People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."- Rogers Hornsby
Really? Nyjer is a fantastic defender. +11.5 UZR/150 in CF and +17.5 in the OF overall
Comparing anyone to Gomez is going to be disappointing.
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
(Those are his 2011 numbers, his career numbers are even better)
"We’re here to win, man. All that fighting stuff, that’s for the birds." - Prince Fielder
Exactly.
He can get close to balls that 80% of guys can’t, and that will lead to some instances where he almost makes a great play but comes up a little bit short. The only problem is that the guy we’re comparing him to is the best defensive center fielder in baseball.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Aug 13, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't copy + paste the Casey McGehee picture.
But go browse the game photos and ask yourself what the hell is going on in that one.
by Bush League All Star on Aug 13, 2011 11:20 PM CDT reply actions
According to the caption...
Casey McGehee strikes out with the bases loaded during the seventh inning in the Brewers’ 1-0 victory.
:)
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Are you talking about this picture?
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He's been better lately...
…. but that was probably one of the worst at bats I’ve seen out of a non-pitcher all year.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 14, 2011 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions
It was hideous. I was watching with family down for the weekend
And I swore a blue streak. Holy crap was that last swing and miss terrible. If that’s the worst at bat you’ve seen out of a non-pitcher, though, I don’t think you saw much of McGehee during his especially cold streaks, not Erik Almonte flailing at the plate at the very beginning of the season. Remember when Roenicke chose to play Almonte in RF. Ugh. Glad those days are over.
Going to my first game of the year today! First time tailgating ever. We’re headed to the Molitor lot. No distinctive features to our group so I don’t think we’ll meet anyone. White jersey, blue jersey, two women, grill, sausages. Ask for David and Rob. :-)
Founder of the BCBCU - Est. 2011
Have a great time
and be sure to drink 39 straight beers since you are in the Molitor lot. We all have to do our part to stop Uggla.
Brewers:
5 games ahead of the Uptight Citizens Brigade
1 game behind the Braves for the Wild Card Safety Net
2 games ahead of Arizona to avoid the Phils in the 1st round
Yrah, it was a bad at bat, but it sort of just epitomized the day
At one point Brewers were -
6 for 11 with bases empty
1 for 14 with runners on base
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Since I don't see anyone else talking about it, I am here to toot the Yuni horn !
Beta HR in a 1 to 0 game …
That is as close as you can get to winning a game single handed
In honor of this accomplishment, the Yuni Fan Club is now accepting donations for a statue for Beta
We are also looking for suggestions on where to place the statue
Finally, we want to know if people think Yuni should be shown in a defensive or offensive pose – or just standing there smiling
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
isn't standing there smiling his defensive pose?
Every man must believe in something, I believe I'll have another drink.
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NL Central Standings
| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
|
26 | 20 | .565 | 0 | Won 1 |
|
St. Louis
|
25 | 22 | .531 | 1.5 | Lost 3 |
|
Houston
|
22 | 24 | .478 | 4 | Lost 1 |
|
Pittsburgh
|
22 | 24 | .478 | 4 | Won 2 |
|
Milwaukee
|
19 | 27 | .413 | 7 | Lost 1 |
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Chicago
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15 | 31 | .326 | 11 | Lost 11 |
(updated 5.27.2012 at 12:11 PM CDT)
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