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Series Preview #+1: Talking Diamondbacks And NLDS With AZ Snake Pit

 

As the Brewers and Diamondbacks prepare to open their playoff matchup tomorrow, Jim McLennan of AZ Snake Pit and I traded insults questions about this series. Here are his answers to my questions: Check over there later today for my answers to his.

KL: This is a Diamondbacks team that lost 97 games in 2010 and 92 in 2009 before turning things around and winning the NL West going away in 2011. Is it safe to say that Arizona fans have gotten much more than anyone expected from this team?

JM: Almost certainly. I was simply looking for improvement from last year's 67-95 season. Somewhere around the mid-70's as a win total, and I'd have been very happy with a .500 record. That seemed like the upper end of expectations, especially after going 11-15 in April, and sitting in last place on May 16.

Personally, I've been waiting for the 'bad' Diamondbacks - the ones who averaged 70 wins per season over the three years up to the end of April - to come back. Even as they clawed their way back up to fight with the Giants, overtook them, and clung to first, I was sure they were just teasing us. They had a six-game losing streak on the East Coast in August that I was sure was it... Then they won the next nine games, so what do I know?. As I sit here, I still think something will happen, and we'll be docked ten wins for financial irregularities or something. But anything from here is absolutely gravy.

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KL: Obviously most of us have heard of Ian Kennedy, a likely contender for the NL Cy Young. What can you tell us about the seasons of the two starters behind him: Daniel Hudson and Joe Saunders?

JM: In terms of raw 'stuff', Hudson is perhaps the best pitcher in our rotation. It's just a question of whether he can harness it or not. The key for him is often the first inning. That seems to be where he's most vulnerable, with an ERA of 6.00 there this season - the rest of the way, it's barely half that. If he can have a clean, or at least scoreless, opening frame [and that challenge is not made easier by the expected Brewers line-up], then Arizona fans will breathe a collective sigh of relief.

Joe Saunders makes sabermetrics devotees wake up in a cold sweat. He walks too many people, hardly gets any strikeouts and seems to suffer from a variant of agoraphobia, triggered by having the bases empty. And yet, at the end of seven innings, you look at the scoreboard and somehow, the team are still in the game. He seems to have saved his best this season for big occasions, e.g. stopping a potentially dangerous losing streak in San Diego, or dueling Matt Cain in our clincher, so it'll be interesting to see how he'll do here.

KL: Like Ron Roenicke, Kirk Gibson is in his first full year as a major league manager. When Gibson took over the knock on him was a lack of coaching experience: He'd only served as a bench coach for parts of six seasons. What's your opinion of him as a manager?

JM: I was skeptical of him too, on arrival. He's seriously old-school, and some of his early actions, e.g. banning iPads from the clubhouse immediately before games, scarcely seemed like the sort of things which should be the first concern on a 97-loss team. There are certainly a number of his decisions and practices I still disagree with - Willie Bloomquist is not a lead-off hitter, and the team has run into more outs on the bags than any other team, without that aggression apparently benefiting them.

But you just can't argue with the results. A team that just about everyone picked to finish dead-last, has become more than the sum of its parts, so now we just shake our heads and say, "In Gibby We Trust". He seems particularly adept at getting the most out of his players: Ryan Roberts wasn;t even supposed to be on the roster, but put up more WAR than all but a couple of NL 3Bs this year. Gerardo Parra blossomed from a fourth outfielder into one of the best defenders in the game. Miguel Montero'd defense improved visibly through the year.

I think a good part of it is the excellent coaching staff with which he surrounded himself. Charles Nagy (pitching) and Don Baylor (hitting) appear to have done a bang-up job. Add Matt Williams (third-base) and Eric Young (first-base), and you've got a bunch of guys that had a lot of success in their careers, and seem to have a knack for passing on the necessary skills to the next generation of players.

KL: When Ryan Roberts hit his walkoff grand slam on Tuesday, Daron Sutton drew a fair amount of attention by exclaiming "Are you watching, Milwaukee?" Has anyone asked him about the comment, and did it attract as much attention out there as it did here?

JM: To be honest, no-one has even mentioned it I can see how it might have seemed a bit odd in isolation, but from what I recall, it was largely a reference to a discussion earlier in the game, about teams fighting in pennant races watching each other's games. I know there had been prior mention of Milwaukee, and someone on the team - forget who - had contacted our booth to confirm Greinke was pitching the next day. So it wasn't quite as much out of left-field as it perhaps seemed at the time. Obviously, Sutton has a lot of history in, and fond memories of, Wisconsin.and I really doubt it was a deliberate taunt, just something triggered by genuine excitement at an incredible comeback.

KL: J.J. Putz hasn't gotten a lot of attention nationally, but he quietly finished third in the NL with 45 saves and posted a 2.17 ERA this season. Has he been as dominant as the numbers make him look?

JM: Very close to it - that save number would have been even higher, if he hadn't missed 23 games on the DL in July [David Hernandez notched seven more saves in his absence]. But since Putz returned, the numbers have been insane: his second half ERA is 0.77, with three walks and 28 K's in 23.1 innings. No doubt, he's the main reason why Arizona is 84-0 when they lead after eight, and his split-fingered fastball is under investigation by the UN as a weapon of mass destruction. All told, I think these will be basically seven inning games, because both teams have excellent guys they can use to protect a lead beyond that.

KL: Would having homefield advantage in this series have shifted your expectations at all?

JM: Not enormously. It would have been nice to have, certainly, but Arizona had a winning record on the road (43-38). Where it would have helped a good deal is the offense, who score close to a run a game more at Chase Field than elsewhere. Conversely, our pitchers actually perform better away from home, though the split is a lot smaller there. But looking at the records, it was probably more important for Milwaukee - though if they don't use Greinke in Game 2, since he's 11-0 at home...

KL: Finish the sentence for me: If the Diamondbacks win this series, it's going to be because of the performance of...

JM: Ian Kennedy. In a short series like this, the performance of the starting pitcher in Game 1 - who will probably also be the Arizona starter in any Game 5 - becomes important in setting the tone. I'm sure the home crowd will be fully into it, and if we can take that opening game, it would effectively eliminate the Brewers home-field advantage. However, Justin Upton is also the engine-room that powers the offense, and him producing at the level we know he can, will also be key.

Thanks to Jim for taking the time!

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It's going to be sunny all weekend.

If the roof is open, The Brewers will have to get to IK early.

The way they’ve kept it partially open has helped, but this team has proved that they know how to play at Miller Park in Day games by going undefeated in Home Sunday games. It should be something to at least pay attention to.

by tcyoung on Sep 30, 2011 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

..but cool/cold

High temps for the weekend are forcasted to be in the 50’s. I doubt that the roof will be open.

by ddloml on Sep 30, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

What I don't get

Is his managerial reasoning. I can get behind Gibson as #1, given the gigantic turn-around and the “changing the culture” meme that always gets thrown into the conversation. But why does Charlie Manuel get #2 credit for the team finishing exactly how they should?

With a rotation of Halladay, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt, and Worley, unless you have multiple crippling injuries to the core, if you don’t finish in first, you’re immediately on the hot seat. So, performing exactly to expectations = a worthwhile candidate nowadays?

by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Sep 30, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

BBWA guys always vote like that though

The guy who gets all the wins always gets big consideration. I think TLR should get some consideration, given what he did with that Cardinal team without Wainwright all year, and the DL time lost with guys like Pujols and Holliday.

My votes would be

MVP
1. Kemp
2. Braun
3. Votto
3. Fielder
5. Tulowitzki
6. Pujols
7. Pence
8. Berkman
9. Upton
10. Reyes

If the Dodgers hadnt been over .500 it could have been a case with two #1s. I wouldnt be shocked at all if the race wasnt a lot like the 07 ROY vote involving Braun where its one of the closest ever.

Cy Young

1. Kershaw
2. Halladay
3. Lee
4. Kennedy
5. Cain

ROY

1.Danny Espinosa
2. Craig Kimbrel
3. Wilson Ramos

Manager

Gibson

by backtocali on Sep 30, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

LAME

The more I have looked at it, Kemp’s stats are NOT better than Braun’s and the Dodgers not contending should make it an easy call.

In short, voting for Kemp is ignorant.

by Tristram28 on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well

Kemp has Braun on HR, RBI (things that the voters usually look at) and also Runs Created, WAR, WPA

And Braun has him in Average and OPS

And if you want to debate the “meaningfulness” of his ABs, even Kemp has the edge there. with a 6.65 to 6.39 WPALi.

When I add up the numbers and that includes giving bonus to the guys who play on playoff teams Kemp still had the more productive season, imo. Will be very interesting to see how the voters think. I think it will be a very close race.

by backtocali on Sep 30, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Meaningfullness" of AB's

WPA/LI only takes into account the leverage in context of the game, the WPA associated with hitting a walk off when 10 games back and hitting a 8th inning three run homer to clinch are the similar in ‘that game only’ leverage, but the impact (meaningfullness) on a season is much different.

"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush

by thefreewheelin76 on Sep 30, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is true

But its about the closest thing to measuring the value of one guys ABs over another.

I wonder if its a case where since Braun plays on a playoff bound team, a lot of those WPALi’s come from other players as well.

If RBI is a team stat, then voting for Braun for MVP because his team is in the playoffs can be seen in the same light.

by backtocali on Sep 30, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah and that's part of the meaning of the MVP

Is it the guy that’s most valuable to his team, (probably Kemp), or the best player among contending teams (Braun). The latter definitely gets the boost from the team around him.

I won’t be too upset either way.

"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush

by thefreewheelin76 on Sep 30, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ive never used it as a determinant

I look at slugging, oba, ops, ba, hr, rbi, rc, tons of stuff …if I included wOBA at best it would have made it a virtual tie (and thats only with subtracting points that I had given to every other player who played on a .500 or above team).

by backtocali on Sep 30, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's one thing not to use it as a determinant.

It’s another not to use it at all.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 30, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Surprising

There’s a surprising stat that’s not been talked about at all really…Braun has like half the strikeouts than Kemp has.

by Dexsting on Sep 30, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

An out is an out is an out.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 30, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm rec'ing everything you write

Because of your username. How did I not know you existed!!!!

"If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be." - Yogi Berra

by mnbrewer on Sep 30, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

7+4=11

Since Prince was voted for 4th and 7th, that’s 11; two 1s. Braun & Fielder co-MVPs. lol.

by Dexsting on Sep 30, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scary moment for Arizona

One of their coaches had to be taken to the hospital. FanShot with quotes from TH Twitter here:

Link

Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector

by -JP- on Sep 30, 2011 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Where it would have helped a good deal is the offense, who score close to a run a game more at Chase Field than elsewhere. Conversely, our pitchers actually perform better away from home, though the split is a lot smaller there.

This is because Chase Field is a hitters park. The reason they score fewer runs and allow fewer runs on the road is because their road games are played at places like Dodger Stadium, Petco Field, and AT&T. Miller Park isn’t much different from Chase Field, so I wouldn’t expect the home/away splits to be significantly different.

by tcyoung on Sep 30, 2011 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm delighted to hear that Dback fans think the playoffs are gravy

Because my expectations for the Brewers are much higher than that

by nullacct on Sep 30, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

I was about to say that.

Those words remind me of 2008 when we were just happy to be there.

by tcyoung on Sep 30, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone brought this up recently

Hoping this match up would be like the 08 Crew/Phils match up with AZ being the up and coming team happy to be there and the Crew being the team ready to make the leap to another level. Hopefully the team will be happy to be there too.

"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush

by thefreewheelin76 on Sep 30, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure.

Our rotation was completely shredded by the time we got to the playoffs in ’08, so I think that contributed to the “this is the top of our mountain” feel. The Diamondbacks are coming in rested and ready.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 30, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Upton a question mark at all?

He’s been hit in the head twice in the last week.

by tcyoung on Sep 30, 2011 2:21 PM CDT reply actions  

The second time he was hit

it really was just a glancing blow from a bounce off the wall. Looked like it could be bad right at first, but it really wasn’t

Reading: It's highly overrated!
I <3 Vuvuzelas!!!

by imstillhungry95 on Sep 30, 2011 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

. . .

Did you see this map, Milwaukee and Arizona??

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Sep 30, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions  

How many decades is it going to take

before we can finally rid ourselves of Laverne & Shirley? Moving past those two actresses would be a lot easier if Happy Days wasn’t next in line as our defining cultural narrative.

by Tick on Sep 30, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

you can probably talk yourself into “step by step” or “that 70s show”.
so, do you prefer staci keenan or mila kunis as your favorite fake wisconsinite?

by Capt Science on Sep 30, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think That 70's Show would have been a cool choice.

Laverne & Shirley is a funny reference, but I first learned about it in the Wayne’s World movie. So that’s why it’s funny. But I’ve never seen the show.

This creature would get my vote.

It looks like a little happy insect or crustacean, and it would love nothing more than for us to win.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Sep 30, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like I missed the contest...

Didn’t notice that was part of the link.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Sep 30, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dont forget Jeffrey Dahmer

Unfortunately, unless you are from Wisconsin or the midwest, no one really has any picture of Milwaukee as far as culture goes.

by backtocali on Sep 30, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Orson Wells seemed to want everyone to know he grew up in Kenosha...

…and would then scoff at it. But he only lived there for 3 years (or days?)

Houdini would be a bad idea. That’s not Milwaukee, anyhow.

too bad Les Paul passed away. I’m not a fan of Waukesha, but he can be a Milwaukeean.
If it weren’t for him, I wouldn’t have all of the cool sh*t to use for electronic instruments, the Moog might not have been invented, and, dammit. . .
All of this other stuff,

- – - -
We used to have such a great port, but it didn’t ever really work out. I won’t start my Byron Kilbourn rant…

Ginseng?
No. The frost last summer messed things up for the people who grow that. And that’s more in Marathon county, I think.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Sep 30, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

orson's house is still at least a noteworthy landmark in kenosha

versus the get-away house supposedly used by capone which as far as i know is in disrepair.

i'm fighting all the french people i can find. happy cinco de mayo!

by sowingwildoats on Sep 30, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I know what might've happened . . .

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 1, 2011 12:22 AM CDT reply actions  

They were simply running away from the rampant invasion of non-native...

…Diamondbacks, and those girls just wanted to help.

I am *not saying the Diamondbacks are at fault, because the snakes wouldn’t know what they did wrong if you scolded them.

The Arizona Diamondbacks are a baseball team, and I’m just talking about the snake.
However, I wonder if the snake on the LED board at Chase knows something. This was stupid, but the ornaments are probably going to be back and we’ll have to tell them the baseball team is not the same as a real, live poisonous snake.

FanGraphs should consider a venue for a Gallery Night... they could even serve a cake with a Win Expectancy Chart of the 7/7/11 Brewers' game etched in the frosting, and 7-up. Oh, yeah - and t-shirts that say "SABR-Friday." I'm totally there.

by Jess'HittheBall on Oct 1, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

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