Wednesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while sticking to what you know.
Last night's game was over early and ended in disappointing fashion, as the Cardinals beat the Brewers 4-2 and Tony La Russa rushed out the door to play the tambourine at a Santana concert. (h/t Matthew Leach)
The Brewer bats rallied for a late run but the heart of the order was pretty quiet last night: Ryan Braun, Prince Fielder, Casey McGehee, Yuniesky Betancourt and Craig Counsell started in the 3-7 spots in the order and went a combined 1-for-19 in the game. Jonathan Lucroy went 2-for-3 with a walk batting eighth, spurring more conversation about why the team refuses to bat him ahead of Betancourt et al in the lineup.
Jerry Hairston Jr. sat out last night's game after leaving Monday's contest with a stiff neck, but hopes to be back in there today. He's also saying all the right things regarding a potential return to the team in 2012.
Other notes from the field:
- Corey Hart doubled leading off the game to extend his hitting streak to 18 games, tied for the 12th longest in franchise history.
- Kyle Lohse, Casey McGehee and Jon Jay are leading FanGraphs' Star of the Game voting.
- Here's a transcript of Ron Roenicke's postgame comments.
The Brewers and Cardinals play their last game of the season today, and Adam Berry of MLB.com has the preview. This could be the last time the Brewers face Albert Pujols in a St. Louis uniform: The USA Today has a story on his pending free agency.
At the very least, the Brewers likely won't miss the Cardinals' whining. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch had a surprisingly critical collection of thoughts yesterday on the team's development of a reputation for making excuses. Let's start the quotes with Derrick Goold:
Some of the comments the Cardinals made this season have not distinguished the team or done anything to change their growing reputation as the most-disliked club in the National League.
Here's Bernie Miklasz:
The Cardinals won't be in the 2011 postseason. The least they can do is lose with dignity.
And Jeff Gordon:
But why make such a fuss about it? The Cards have developed a reputation around baseball for whining and these complaints only add to their negative image.
It appears even the writers who cover the team have noticed the reputation the Cardinals have earned. I'm not sure it'll change anything, but it's good to know.
Infielder Nick Punto didn't get into last night's game, but he's been activated off the DL and rejoined the Cardinals yesterday. You know that and more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central.
Once the Brewers are done with the Cardinals today they could have a roster move to announce: Rickie Weeks is supposed to be activated off the DL for this weekend's series against the Phillies. He'll be used sparingly at first as he continues to rehab his sprained ankle. Miller Park Drunk wrote a poem about him.
Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder had a rough night last night but are still part of one of baseball's greatest tandems. Former MLB scout Bernie Pleskoff has a look at what makes Braun and Fielder so effective, and how well they work together.
Shaun Marcum has arguably this weekend's toughest assignment for the Brewers, as he'll face off against Roy Halladay on Friday night. The Good Point recently sat down with Marcum to discuss his arsenal and his first season in Milwaukee (FanShot).
There's probably no Brewer on the 2011 roster that has done more this season to improve his long term value than Marco Estrada, who has gone from afterthought to potential full time big league starter in six months. I didn't realize this, though: Estrada is averaging 4.06 pitches per batter faced this season, fifth highest among pitchers who have thrown at least 80 innings in 2011.
With that said, the Brewers' best "bounce-back" season (in the pitcher division, anyway) has to belong to Randy Wolf. Jayson Stark says Wolf is "mixing stuff better than I've ever seen him."
In the hitter division, the clear winner has to be Nyjer Morgan. David Golebiewski of Baseball Analytics has a look at Morgan's significant upswing in power this season. Tony Plush rounded the bases in 18.84 seconds following his homer Monday, by the way, narrowly missing the day's fastest trot. Ryan Braun came home in 22.58 seconds in the same game.
John Axford's star has also risen a fair amount this season: He's got a new endorsement deal with Wahl Trimmers.
The NL Manager of the Year race is going to be an interesting one, as both Ron Roenicke and Diamondbacks manager Kirk Gibson will likely generate a fair amount of support. Michael Hunt of the JS makes the case for Roenicke to take the honor.
The Brewers had one of baseball's toughest interleague schedules and a couple of really tough road trips, but it's still worth noting that they had baseball's third weakest schedule, according to Jayson Stark. All those games against the Astros, Cubs and Pirates add up.
In the minors:
- Nashville pitcher Michael Fiers was named the Pacific Coast League pitcher of the week after striking out 13 and allowing no earned runs over 14 innings in his final two outings for Nashville. He also won the minor league ERA title with a 1.86 mark.
- Fiers is also the Brewer Minor League Pitcher of the Month. Catcher Martin Maldonado and outfielder Caleb Gindl are co-players of the month.
- Helena is the Brewers' last active affiliate, and they beat Great Falls 8-2 last night behind six solid innings from 2011 15th round pick Andy Moye. You can read about that and more in today's Minor League Notes.
- Rattler Radio has video highlights of Wisconsin's top ten plays from this season.
- The Baseball America Prospect Blog has a good post this morning talking about what life is like on the season's final day.
Have the Brewers gotten less interesting over the last few weeks? Carson Cistulli of FanGraphs' Leaderboards of Pleasure moved the Brewers and Ryan Braun (first to fourth) down in their NERD rankings. Zack Greinke remains #1 among pitchers. The Brewers' hot streak, however, did earn them the #1 spot on The Baseball Index's list of things they learned in August. That hot streak is part of the reason A Simple Kind of Fan is talking about an easy September.
If you haven't yet, please take a moment today to vote in this week's BCB Tracking Poll. It will remain open through the day today and results will be posted tomorrow.
If you'd like more Brewer content today but you're sick of reading, the View From Bernie's Chalet podcast is up. This week's topics include the end of the road woes, comparing the 2011 Brewers to the 2004 Red Sox and the starting rotation.
Around baseball:
Indians: Claimed pitcher Jason Rice off waivers from the Red Sox and designated outfielder Jerad Head for assignment.
Mets: Designated pitcher Mike O'Connor for assignment.
Nationals: Released pitcher Adam Carr and designated pitcher Garrett Mock for assignment.
Orioles: Designated infielder Blake Davis and pitcher Mark Hendrickson for assignment.
Phillies: Announced the resignation of assistant GM Chuck LaMar.
Rockies: Placed infielder Jonathan Herrera on the DL with a broken index finger.
Twins: Designated pitcher Chuck James for assignment.
Yankees: Designated pitcher Lance Pendleton for assignment.
Over the weekend the Brewers will face Phillies rookie pitcher Vance Worley for the first time. Hopefully they won't be distracted by his terrible hair.
In former Brewers:
- Tyler Lockman of Fox Sports Wisconsin talked to Gorman Thomas about his life in the big leagues and what he's doing now.
- Vinny Rottino is back in the big leagues, having been called up by the Marlins.
This morning's edition of Today In Brewer History remembers the anniversary of Robin Yount's final game as a shortstop in 1984, but Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times notes that it's also the first anniversary of Trevor Hoffman's 600th save. Follow the link for more on that and a great story about Bob Uecker and Phil Niekro.
Hoffman, by the way, is still the all time saves leader with 601 but may not be by October: Mariano Rivera converted save #598 early this morning and now needs four more in the Yankees' final 22 games to take over first place this season. Rivera turns 42 in November, so there's a chance this is his last major league season. He is under contract for 2012.
Speaking of players with notable walkup music: Kevin Lai of The Hardball Times has a great post this morning discussing trends in musical taste across baseball.
Today in baseball economics: Kudos to @bigleaguestew for pointing out that the 2011 Diamondbacks are averaging just 24,377 fans per game this season, which is less than the 2010 Reds. The Reds were pretty consistently berated for failing to draw fans, but the D-Backs have largely escaped notice.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to land this trick.
Drink up.
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Don't believe this has been in a Mug yet
But SI’s Tom Verducci has predicted that the Brewers are likely to do “not much” in the playoffs based on the fact that the Braves won 5 of 8 against them 4+ months ago.
Pretty weak argument
If he was going to go down that route, the Stark piece would be the more appropriate way to raise that argument. Same holds true for those who think that the 3 games in Philly 4 months ago could mean the same thing.
Same holds true for those who think that the 3 games in Philly 4 months ago could mean the same thing.
I haven’t seen anyone say this.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
The only reference to that series I've seen
is when people are concerned that we’d get swept by the Phils by a cumulative score of 68-3, and that series is cited in a “not so fast, my friend” kind of way.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Ive seen it posted as a belief that
They could win a playoff series against them, based on those 3 games in May.
The point is that the error in thinking the Brewers couldnt go very far because they lost 5 of 8 to the Braves in April is equal to the error that they Brewers could go very far because they beat the Phillies 2 out of 3 in May.
Various posts
throughout the past couple of months on the site. Cant recall where. Cant really say whether it was a widely held belief, but I have read it.
You will see all sorts of things posted on message boards.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Gibson > Roenicke
Provided the Dbacks hold on to their lead, Gibson should win hands down. Basically the same team that lost 97 games a year ago and nobody expected to compete for the division title, is walking away with it over the defending world champs.
Yeah, there's really no case for Roenicke over Gibson
Hunt’s argument is essentially that the Brewers were expected to contend for the division but are instead running away with it. Well, the Diamondbacks are running away with their division, too, and no one even expected them to contend.
by Cheeseandcorn on Sep 7, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Gibson should probably win
But I wouldn’t be surprised if Gibson looks like an embarrassing choice in a few years.
REWIND YOURSELF!
You can only manage as well as your GM puts a team together
And with Kevin Towers now running the show out there, Gibson should always have a good supply of young talent on hand and trade pick ups to help when needed.
So simply having Kevin Towers around improved Arizona's minor league pipeline?
Now that's great tasting chicken!
Having Jerry DiPoto around does that
DiPoto made a lot of those trades for prospects last season that I see people on the interwebs erroneously credit Towers for.
I doubt they'll find a way to trade-rape Jon Daniels again
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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and didn't Towers put the Padres farm system in the ground?
I remember distinctly a few years ago them being at the bottom of the BA org rankings.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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Id have to look that up
But Towers had a very impressive run with the Padres. Didnt they have something like 6 playoff appearances over a 10 year period?
as recently as 2008, Goldstein had them at 29th.
Towers had them in the playoffs in 98, 05, and 06.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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Probably shouldnt discount
the ’10 team that missed by a game (he built that team)
And the 07 team that lost in game 163.
Dbacks will have an impressive farm system going forward with Bundy and Bradley at the top of the class. the guy knows his stuff.
I think it's a case where his longevity eclipses his actual results.
he ws the GM when they made the playoffs in 06 as well. In his 15 year stretch as Padres GM, they had 6 winning seasons.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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I'm kind of coming around to that argument
Not that Gibson’s a bad manager, but this team ISN’T the 2010 team. I’ve heard that it may have been Gibson’s idea to get rid of the high-K batters, so that poke at the front office is on him. But the bullpen, which was the 2010 team’s biggest problem? That’s turned over.
Gibson can win me over
If he gets injured by a foul ball (or something) and ends up in the trainers room during a playoff game (not against the Brewers). Then, even though he is clearly ailing, in the ninth inning with the DBacks trailing 4-3, two outs, one man on. Gibson emerges from the tunnel and somehow manages to signal to put in a pinch hitter despite his injury.
The Pinch Hitter hits a walkoff home run, and Gibson meekly accepts a few high fives before his arm injury overcomes him.
REWIND YOURSELF!
by drezdn on Sep 7, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
awesome.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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How about the case
That the Brewers are better?
"If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be." - Yogi Berra
Marcum is at 3.89.
So they’re seventh, eigth, and fifteenth in qualified pitchers according to B-Ref.
Consequence of throwing more junk pitches and fishing for K's
Because they can’t count on the defense to make a play behind them?
After the August 23 game against the Pirates:
After Greinke struck out Ronny Cedeño, he walked pinch-hitter Andrew McCutchen on a wild pitch that sent another run home. Jose Tabata followed with an RBI double to spell the end for Greinke, and the inning spiraled out of control completely against the erratic De La Cruz.
“That’s why strikeouts are the best thing to do,” said Greinke, who fell to 12-5. “I feel like if you make good pitches, a lot more things are going to happen good than bad.”
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
hm, i think interpreting that quote as a comment on the quality of the defense
is a bit of a stretch. maybe if it came after one of their error-riddled games but after a game with a wild pitch and a clean double?
by Foul Tip on Sep 7, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, it wasn't about the quality of the defense.
As honest as Greinke can be, even he wouldn’t say something like that.
I was just citing it in response to null’s question of whether Yo and Greinke are throwing more pitches because they’re trying to strike everybody out.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
fair enough
I read
Because they can’t count on the defense to make a play behind them?
as the operative part of null’s question hence thought you might have something juicier.
More fun stats from that page
Narveson and Greinke are tied for second among qualified NL pitchers in swinging strike percentage.
by Cheeseandcorn on Sep 7, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
And from the hitters' side of those stats
Among qualifiers, Yuni leads the NL in % of pitches swung at, total strike %, and balls in play %.
He is dead last in the league in % of 3-0 counts, % of 2-0 counts, and % of 3-1 counts.
by Cheeseandcorn on Sep 7, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to be that guy, but...
If Estrada is “averaging 4.06 pitchers per batter faced,” wouldn’t that be more of a personality disorder? I mean, how many pitchers can one guy be?
by leftisbetter on Sep 7, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
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"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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During the 2008 postseason, I was selected in the lottery to buy postseason tickets....
…for the NLCS.
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The Brewers vs. the Cardinals this year...
are 9-8. So a win tonight could solidify a series win against the Cards. A lose would, obviously, lead to a tie.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Sep 7, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
Its no wonder Marco Estrada and other Brewer pitchers have high p/AB
They dont get to face Yuni.
by BrewCrewBrian on Sep 7, 2011 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Thing I really love about being back at school
is that probably half of the links are blocked. Really makes my mug experience unsatisfactory…
This game is bigger than YOU or ME.
Without me, the game will go on...Without the game, I won't go on
Are you in high school?
Doesn’t make sense that those sites would be blocked on a college campus’ computers.
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Unfortunately yes..
but only got this year left, so there’s that at least
This game is bigger than YOU or ME.
Without me, the game will go on...Without the game, I won't go on
Tonight's Lineup
RF Hart
CF Morgan
LF Braun
1B Fielder
3B McGehee
2B Green
SS Betancourt
C Lucroy
P Greinke
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
I'm happy Yuni is out of the 6th spot
Having Green in the lineup is a bonus.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.








































