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Some things to read while sticking to what you know.

Last night's game was over early and ended in disappointing fashion, as the Cardinals beat the Brewers 4-2 and Tony La Russa rushed out the door to play the tambourine at a Santana concert. (h/t Matthew Leach)

The Brewer bats rallied for a late run but the heart of the order was pretty quiet last night: Ryan Braun, Prince Fielder, Casey McGehee, Yuniesky Betancourt and Craig Counsell started in the 3-7 spots in the order and went a combined 1-for-19 in the game. Jonathan Lucroy went 2-for-3 with a walk batting eighth, spurring more conversation about why the team refuses to bat him ahead of Betancourt et al in the lineup.

Jerry Hairston Jr. sat out last night's game after leaving Monday's contest with a stiff neck, but hopes to be back in there today. He's also saying all the right things regarding a potential return to the team in 2012.

Other notes from the field:

The Brewers and Cardinals play their last game of the season today, and Adam Berry of MLB.com has the preview. This could be the last time the Brewers face Albert Pujols in a St. Louis uniform: The USA Today has a story on his pending free agency.

At the very least, the Brewers likely won't miss the Cardinals' whining. The St. Louis Post-Dispatch had a surprisingly critical collection of thoughts yesterday on the team's development of a reputation for making excuses. Let's start the quotes with Derrick Goold:

Some of the comments the Cardinals made this season have not distinguished the team or done anything to change their growing reputation as the most-disliked club in the National League.

Here's Bernie Miklasz:

The Cardinals won't be in the 2011 postseason. The least they can do is lose with dignity.

And Jeff Gordon:

But why make such a fuss about it? The Cards have developed a reputation around baseball for whining and these complaints only add to their negative image.

It appears even the writers who cover the team have noticed the reputation the Cardinals have earned. I'm not sure it'll change anything, but it's good to know.

Infielder Nick Punto didn't get into last night's game, but he's been activated off the DL and rejoined the Cardinals yesterday. You know that and more if you've read this morning's edition of Around the NL Central.

Once the Brewers are done with the Cardinals today they could have a roster move to announce: Rickie Weeks is supposed to be activated off the DL for this weekend's series against the Phillies. He'll be used sparingly at first as he continues to rehab his sprained ankle. Miller Park Drunk wrote a poem about him.

Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder had a rough night last night but are still part of one of baseball's greatest tandems. Former MLB scout Bernie Pleskoff has a look at what makes Braun and Fielder so effective, and how well they work together.

Shaun Marcum has arguably this weekend's toughest assignment for the Brewers, as he'll face off against Roy Halladay on Friday night. The Good Point recently sat down with Marcum to discuss his arsenal and his first season in Milwaukee (FanShot).

There's probably no Brewer on the 2011 roster that has done more this season to improve his long term value than Marco Estrada, who has gone from afterthought to potential full time big league starter in six months. I didn't realize this, though: Estrada is averaging 4.06 pitches per batter faced this season, fifth highest among pitchers who have thrown at least 80 innings in 2011.

With that said, the Brewers' best "bounce-back" season (in the pitcher division, anyway) has to belong to Randy Wolf. Jayson Stark says Wolf is "mixing stuff better than I've ever seen him."

In the hitter division, the clear winner has to be Nyjer Morgan. David Golebiewski of Baseball Analytics has a look at Morgan's significant upswing in power this season. Tony Plush rounded the bases in 18.84 seconds following his homer Monday, by the way, narrowly missing the day's fastest trot. Ryan Braun came home in 22.58 seconds in the same game.

John Axford's star has also risen a fair amount this season: He's got a new endorsement deal with Wahl Trimmers.

The NL Manager of the Year race is going to be an interesting one, as both Ron Roenicke and Diamondbacks manager Kirk Gibson will likely generate a fair amount of support. Michael Hunt of the JS makes the case for Roenicke to take the honor.

The Brewers had one of baseball's toughest interleague schedules and a couple of really tough road trips, but it's still worth noting that they had baseball's third weakest schedule, according to Jayson Stark. All those games against the Astros, Cubs and Pirates add up.

In the minors:

Have the Brewers gotten less interesting over the last few weeks? Carson Cistulli of FanGraphs' Leaderboards of Pleasure moved the Brewers and Ryan Braun (first to fourth) down in their NERD rankings. Zack Greinke remains #1 among pitchers. The Brewers' hot streak, however, did earn them the #1 spot on The Baseball Index's list of things they learned in August. That hot streak is part of the reason A Simple Kind of Fan is talking about an easy September.

If you haven't yet, please take a moment today to vote in this week's BCB Tracking Poll. It will remain open through the day today and results will be posted tomorrow.

If you'd like more Brewer content today but you're sick of reading, the View From Bernie's Chalet podcast is up. This week's topics include the end of the road woes, comparing the 2011 Brewers to the 2004 Red Sox and the starting rotation.

Around baseball:

Indians: Claimed pitcher Jason Rice off waivers from the Red Sox and designated outfielder Jerad Head for assignment.
Mets: Designated pitcher Mike O'Connor for assignment.
Nationals: Released pitcher Adam Carr and designated pitcher Garrett Mock for assignment.
Orioles: Designated infielder Blake Davis and pitcher Mark Hendrickson for assignment.
Phillies: Announced the resignation of assistant GM Chuck LaMar.
Rockies: Placed infielder Jonathan Herrera on the DL with a broken index finger.
Twins: Designated pitcher Chuck James for assignment.
Yankees: Designated pitcher Lance Pendleton for assignment.

Over the weekend the Brewers will face Phillies rookie pitcher Vance Worley for the first time. Hopefully they won't be distracted by his terrible hair.

In former Brewers:

This morning's edition of Today In Brewer History remembers the anniversary of Robin Yount's final game as a shortstop in 1984, but Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times notes that it's also the first anniversary of Trevor Hoffman's 600th save. Follow the link for more on that and a great story about Bob Uecker and Phil Niekro.

Hoffman, by the way, is still the all time saves leader with 601 but may not be by October: Mariano Rivera converted save #598 early this morning and now needs four more in the Yankees' final 22 games to take over first place this season. Rivera turns 42 in November, so there's a chance this is his last major league season. He is under contract for 2012.

Speaking of players with notable walkup music: Kevin Lai of The Hardball Times has a great post this morning discussing trends in musical taste across baseball.

Today in baseball economics: Kudos to @bigleaguestew for pointing out that the 2011 Diamondbacks are averaging just 24,377 fans per game this season, which is less than the 2010 Reds. The Reds were pretty consistently berated for failing to draw fans, but the D-Backs have largely escaped notice.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to land this trick.

Drink up.

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Don't believe this has been in a Mug yet

But SI’s Tom Verducci has predicted that the Brewers are likely to do “not much” in the playoffs based on the fact that the Braves won 5 of 8 against them 4+ months ago.

by Cheeseandcorn on Sep 7, 2011 11:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Pretty weak argument

If he was going to go down that route, the Stark piece would be the more appropriate way to raise that argument. Same holds true for those who think that the 3 games in Philly 4 months ago could mean the same thing.

by backtocali on Sep 7, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Same holds true for those who think that the 3 games in Philly 4 months ago could mean the same thing.

I haven’t seen anyone say this.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 7, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only reference to that series I've seen

is when people are concerned that we’d get swept by the Phils by a cumulative score of 68-3, and that series is cited in a “not so fast, my friend” kind of way.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 7, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ive seen it posted as a belief that

They could win a playoff series against them, based on those 3 games in May.

The point is that the error in thinking the Brewers couldnt go very far because they lost 5 of 8 to the Braves in April is equal to the error that they Brewers could go very far because they beat the Phillies 2 out of 3 in May.

by backtocali on Sep 7, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where?

Here?

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 7, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Various posts

throughout the past couple of months on the site. Cant recall where. Cant really say whether it was a widely held belief, but I have read it.

by backtocali on Sep 7, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

You will see all sorts of things posted on message boards.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Sep 7, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gibson > Roenicke

Provided the Dbacks hold on to their lead, Gibson should win hands down. Basically the same team that lost 97 games a year ago and nobody expected to compete for the division title, is walking away with it over the defending world champs.

by nullacct on Sep 7, 2011 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, there's really no case for Roenicke over Gibson

Hunt’s argument is essentially that the Brewers were expected to contend for the division but are instead running away with it. Well, the Diamondbacks are running away with their division, too, and no one even expected them to contend.

by Cheeseandcorn on Sep 7, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gibson should probably win

But I wouldn’t be surprised if Gibson looks like an embarrassing choice in a few years.

REWIND YOURSELF!

by drezdn on Sep 7, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can only manage as well as your GM puts a team together

And with Kevin Towers now running the show out there, Gibson should always have a good supply of young talent on hand and trade pick ups to help when needed.

by backtocali on Sep 7, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt they'll find a way to trade-rape Jon Daniels again

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Sep 7, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

and didn't Towers put the Padres farm system in the ground?

I remember distinctly a few years ago them being at the bottom of the BA org rankings.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Sep 7, 2011 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Id have to look that up

But Towers had a very impressive run with the Padres. Didnt they have something like 6 playoff appearances over a 10 year period?

by backtocali on Sep 7, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

as recently as 2008, Goldstein had them at 29th.

Towers had them in the playoffs in 98, 05, and 06.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Sep 7, 2011 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably shouldnt discount

the ’10 team that missed by a game (he built that team)

And the 07 team that lost in game 163.

Dbacks will have an impressive farm system going forward with Bundy and Bradley at the top of the class. the guy knows his stuff.

by backtocali on Sep 7, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think it's a case where his longevity eclipses his actual results.

he ws the GM when they made the playoffs in 06 as well. In his 15 year stretch as Padres GM, they had 6 winning seasons.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Sep 7, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm kind of coming around to that argument

Not that Gibson’s a bad manager, but this team ISN’T the 2010 team. I’ve heard that it may have been Gibson’s idea to get rid of the high-K batters, so that poke at the front office is on him. But the bullpen, which was the 2010 team’s biggest problem? That’s turned over.

by morineko on Sep 7, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

awesome.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Sep 7, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about the case

That the Brewers are better?

"If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be." - Yogi Berra

by mnbrewer on Sep 7, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

By that logic

The Manager of the year should be Charlie Manuel then.

by backtocali on Sep 8, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pitches/PA

Gallardo is at 3.99 and Greinke is at 3.97.

by Noah Jarosh on Sep 7, 2011 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Marcum is at 3.89.

So they’re seventh, eigth, and fifteenth in qualified pitchers according to B-Ref.

by Noah Jarosh on Sep 7, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Greinke's said as much.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 7, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

After the August 23 game against the Pirates:
After Greinke struck out Ronny Cedeño, he walked pinch-hitter Andrew McCutchen on a wild pitch that sent another run home. Jose Tabata followed with an RBI double to spell the end for Greinke, and the inning spiraled out of control completely against the erratic De La Cruz.

“That’s why strikeouts are the best thing to do,” said Greinke, who fell to 12-5. “I feel like if you make good pitches, a lot more things are going to happen good than bad.”

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 7, 2011 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

hm, i think interpreting that quote as a comment on the quality of the defense

is a bit of a stretch. maybe if it came after one of their error-riddled games but after a game with a wild pitch and a clean double?

by Foul Tip on Sep 7, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, it wasn't about the quality of the defense.

As honest as Greinke can be, even he wouldn’t say something like that.

I was just citing it in response to null’s question of whether Yo and Greinke are throwing more pitches because they’re trying to strike everybody out.

We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.

by Rubie Q on Sep 7, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough

I read

Because they can’t count on the defense to make a play behind them?

as the operative part of null’s question hence thought you might have something juicier.

by Foul Tip on Sep 7, 2011 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

More fun stats from that page

Narveson and Greinke are tied for second among qualified NL pitchers in swinging strike percentage.

by Cheeseandcorn on Sep 7, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

And from the hitters' side of those stats

Among qualifiers, Yuni leads the NL in % of pitches swung at, total strike %, and balls in play %.

He is dead last in the league in % of 3-0 counts, % of 2-0 counts, and % of 3-1 counts.

by Cheeseandcorn on Sep 7, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

TLR / Santana

I wonder if Santana knows about TLR’s position on “states’ rights.”

by Pablo Max on Sep 7, 2011 12:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Not to be that guy, but...

If Estrada is “averaging 4.06 pitchers per batter faced,” wouldn’t that be more of a personality disorder? I mean, how many pitchers can one guy be?

by leftisbetter on Sep 7, 2011 12:51 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

2011 Postseason Ticket Lottery

Open now. Here’s a FanShot.

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by -JP- on Sep 7, 2011 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

put my entry in

I think I have the best shot with requesting Wheelchair seating.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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by Hyatt on Sep 7, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the link

I would’ve missed it entirely.

by ecocd on Sep 7, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Brewers vs. the Cardinals this year...

are 9-8. So a win tonight could solidify a series win against the Cards. A lose would, obviously, lead to a tie.

That dog just won't hunt.

by Bush League All Star on Sep 7, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Thing I really love about being back at school

is that probably half of the links are blocked. Really makes my mug experience unsatisfactory…

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by toki47 on Sep 7, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Are you in high school?

Doesn’t make sense that those sites would be blocked on a college campus’ computers.

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by -JP- on Sep 7, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately yes..

but only got this year left, so there’s that at least

This game is bigger than YOU or ME.
Without me, the game will go on...Without the game, I won't go on

by toki47 on Sep 7, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tonight's Lineup

RF Hart
CF Morgan
LF Braun
1B Fielder
3B McGehee
2B Green
SS Betancourt
C Lucroy
P Greinke

Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.

by sjlee on Sep 7, 2011 4:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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