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by Kyle Lobner on Jan 11, 2012 9:01 AM CST
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We're 38 days away from pitchers and catchers reporting to Maryvale, and the Brewers crossed another item off their to do list yesterday when they signed Carlos Gomez to a one year, $2 million deal to avoid arbitration (FanShot). Jaymes Langrehr of The Brewers Bar says the team got a bargain, as Gomez's defense alone is easily worth what he's making.
With Gomez and George Kottaras taken care of the Brewers still have six arbitration eligible players left to sign: Kameron Loe, Shaun Marcum, Nyjer Morgan, Manny Parra, Francisco Rodriguez and Jose Veras.
Meanwhile, one of our favorite former Brewers is back in the organization as Seth McClung signed a minor league deal (without a spring training invite) yesterday (FanShot). McClung hasn't appeared in the majors since pitching for the Brewers in 2009, and posted a 5.19 ERA as a starter/reliever for AAA Round Rock last season. Of course, no one is more excited than morineko. McClung is on Twitter as @BigRedBBall. (h/t @AdamMcCalvy)
Jonathan Lucroy continues to make the rounds on the interview circuit: @Mass_Haas directs our attention to his appearance on MLB Roundtrip with Cliff Floyd.
Here are today's Prince Fielder notes:
- Larry Stone of the Seattle Times says Fielder may wait to sign until after the 18th, the Rangers' deadline to work out a deal with Yu Darvish. If the two sides can't reach an agreement, the Rangers may re-enter the bidding for Fielder.
- The Nats Blog has a look at the role Ted Lerner's relatively advanced age (he's 86) could play into the Nationals' decision to sign or not sign Fielder.
- Jerry Crasnick is reporting that the Mariners are telling teams they're near the top of their budget, but Jeff Sullivan of Lookout Landing isn't buying it.
- Bovada.lv is listing the Nationals as the favorites to sign Fielder and listing them at 4/5 odds. Here's the full top five:
| Team | Odds |
| Nationals | 4/5 |
| Mariners | 3/1 |
| Rangers | 7/2 |
| Brewers | 5/1 |
| Orioles | 10/1 |
Meanwhile, the Brewers still project to enter the 2012 season with Mat Gamel as their primary first baseman. Stan McNeal of The Sporting News talked to Gamel about his efforts to get ready this winter.
In the minors:
- Carlos Gomez went 0-for-4 and struck out four times in Aguilas' 10-6 loss to Gigantes in Dominican playoffs yesterday, while Erick Almonte had two hits and drove in a pair of runs for the winners. You can read about that and more in today's Winter League Notes.
- As part of the editing process for his 2012 prospect book, John Sickels of Minor League Ball has downgraded Michael Fiers from a B- to C+ prospect.
This is pretty cool and long overdue: A group of 20 legislators are asking for the pedestrian bridge near Miller Park to be renamed "Bob Uecker Way." The unveiling would coincide with Uecker's birthday later this month.
Around baseball:
Cardinals: Signed catcher Koyie Hill to a minor league deal.
Mariners: Signed pitcher Aaron Heilman to a minor league deal.
Mets: Re-signed pitchers Miguel Batista and Fernando Cabrera to minor league deals.
Reds: Signed closer Ryan Madson to a one year, $8.5 million deal plus incentives.
Tigers: Signed infielder Niuman Romero to a minor league deal.
As Bob Nightengale points out, with the bottom falling out of the closer market Jonathan Papelbon has to feel pretty good about the four year/$50 million deal he got from the Phillies.
Yesterday's biggest story around baseball was almost certainly this: After years of no one believing he's planning to retire, Bud Selig is expected to be given a two year contract extension (worth somewhere between $20-25 million per season) tomorrow.
Today in former Brewers:
- Bernie's Crew makes the case for Geoff Jenkins' induction into the Brewers' Walk of Fame.
- Viva El Birdos has a look at Jim Edmonds' Hall of Fame candidacy.
Last week I mentioned that ESPN's Keith Law had interviewed with the Astros regarding vacancies in their front office. Yesterday he announced that he plans to stay with ESPN.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to invent a place. (h/t @beckjason)
Drink up.
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Finishing a thought from a previous thread
Here’s a chart of the seasonal WAR for HOF candidates, if their seasons were sorted from finest to worst.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
by nullacct on Jan 11, 2012 9:28 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
The only issue with this
is that you probably have to weight it differently for relievers, since they’ll have lower WAR. Also, due to IP, most SP will have a higher WAR.
But, its still a nice graph.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 11:26 AM CST up reply actions
I'm still not understanding WAR, in terms of equality
It’s weighted by position, right? For example, the reason Robin Yount had his spectacular 11-WAR season was in part due to his offensive production as a shortstop (compared to the standard #s for shortstops)?
If that’s the case, shouldn’t they be weighting WAR for relievers differently already?
Mark Attanasio is the best.
It doesn't account for pitching like that
similarly, catcher defense is not included.
Just by virtue of pitching 150 innings and having the potential to win more games, an average SP will have a higher WAR that the best closer. Most likely. Axford’s WAR last year (he was absolutely amazing, by the way) was 1.9 in 2011. Also, he had 2.0 WAR with less IP, worse overall stats, but 6 more wins in 2010.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 11:33 AM CST up reply actions
Actually the wins thing might be bullshit
but I can’t figure any other reason why Axford’s WAR would have calculated higher in 2010.
Also, I should have mentioned that a graph like the one above is great as long as people viewing it understand the differences in WAR like that. Or, if it was separated into three graphs: one of hitters, one of SP, one of RP, it would accomplish that too.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Maybe if it were somehow calculated with leverage involved?
The closer rarely appears in low-leverage situations.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
I believe only Baseball Reference factors in leverage for relievers
Not Fangraphs. Hence Axford’s jump in rWAR from 2 to 2.7 last year, while he slightly dropped in fWAR.
Somebody could correct me on that, though.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 11, 2012 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
But that can't be the only reason
I mean he had nearly 50% more IP in 2011, and pretty much every stat across the board was better, with the exception of wins.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, WAR is meant to compare all players. Some people just argue that current metrics don’t capture the value of end-game relievers. Other people argue that relievers just aren’t very valuable. Both seem plausible.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Yup, if you want to compare a closer's value to a starters on the same scale just multiply by 1.8ish
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
by Jordan M on Jan 11, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
In WAR they are compared to all hitters, then they add in a positional adjustment.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Basically, wRAA+UZR+positional adjustment=WAR, at least Fangraphs WAR anyway.
Offensive players – Take wRAA and UZR (which express offensive and defensive value in runs above average) and add them together. Add in a positional adjustment, since some positions are tougher to play than others, and then convert the numbers so that they’re not based on league average, but on replacement level (which is the value a team would lose if they had to replace that player with a "replacement" player – a minor leaguer or someone from the waiver wire). Convert the run value to wins (10 runs = 1 win) and voila, finished!
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
Haha, Jack Morris
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
That was a reply to null's chart
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
How that guy is even being seriously considered for a Hall spot is beyond me.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 11, 2012 10:51 AM CST up reply actions
1991 World Series, dude
I want to work out a way to transfer things between times and replace Jack Morris before Game 7 with peak!Brad Radke and see what would happen. Or with 1993 Terry Mulholland, whatever.
Revisionist history FTW
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Long, productive career in an era were there weren't a lot of HoF-worthy peers
Hall of Fame =/= Hall of Career Net Value
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Well
I don’t know about all of that, really:
But I do want to look at something – namely, what did the people who saw Jack Morris pitch think of him during his career? And not just any people, but card-carrying BBWAA members, the sort of people now currently engaged in Hall of Fame voting?
Morris was the pitcher “of the 80s,” so I took a look at Cy Young balloting from 1980 through 1989. I took each player’s point total from that season and divided by the maximum number of points for a pitcher that season (such that a 1 means a player won the Cy Young, and a .5 means a pitcher accumulated half as many points as the winner). In that spirit, I give you the top 25 pitchers in Cy Young share of the 80s:
Pitcher Points
Steve Carlton 2.333
Roger Clemens 1.943
Bret Saberhagen 1.893
Rick Sutcliffe 1.558
Fernando Valenzuela 1.558
Dan Quisenberry 1.486
Dwight Gooden 1.483
Mike Scott 1.433
Orel Hershiser 1.317
Frank Viola 1.036
Dave Stewart 0.914
Rollie Fingers 0.900
Mark Davis 0.892
John Denny 0.858
La Marr Hoyt 0.829
Steve Stone 0.714
Pete Vuckovich 0.679
Ron Guidry 0.679
Mike Norris 0.650
Willie Hernandez 0.629
Steve McCatty 0.600
Tom Seaver 0.558
Jack Morris 0.543
John Tudor 0.542
Mario Soto 0.533
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Also
this is a good quote from the article:
The lionization of Morris seems to have started when it wasn’t possible for anyone to have watched him pitch any more – in other words, upon reflection. If Morris is the Hall of Famer that people like Heyman think he is, it should be possible then to elucidate a case for Morris that relies upon reflection, and thus is as accessible to “stat gurus” as it is to those who were there for his career.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions
The fact remains that, to the large number of older sportswriters voting for him, Morris represents 80s baseball
Sometimes you just can’t incorporate advanced stats into the HoF discussion.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I don't think that the "Cy Young Shares" 'stat' from Wyers' article is an advanced stat...
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
It's another misguided attempt to attach a statistic to the HoF, call it what you will.
The fact that Morris is getting votes is proof in itself that his memory is highly regarded by a large number writers. Players aren’t buying votes or lying to get votes; in a sense it’s a pure election. IMO getting 75% of the vote (if Morris ever does) necessarily means that the player is justified being in the Hall of Fame.
It makes sense arguing that players who don’t get voted in belong in the Hall of Fame, but it doesn’t make sense arguing that players who do get voted in don’t belong there. Just my opinion.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 11, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree.
As I’ve taken to saying, it’s not the “Hall of ‘Hey I Remember that Guy.’” Unless it is, in which case I’m not going to bother paying attention to it.
by mpbMKE on Jan 11, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It's not that at all. It's very hard to get into the Hall of Fame, as it should be.
That doesn’t mean it’s 100% “Who was the statistically most valuable player?”
If you were voting for a Brewers Hall of Fame, who would you pick between Craig Counsell and Ellie Rodriguez?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I wouldn't vote for either of them
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
That's not the point.
The point is players can be more “HoF-worthy” than their career stats suggest.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
But in your question
You gave the requirement that one person had to be voted for, that’s not the case in the hall of fame voting, you can submit a blank ballot if you want. I agree with your general point that the stats we have (or the stats we had in the 80s) shouldn’t be the only deciding factor. But I think it’s ridiculous to say that you can’t have an opinion on who gets in. I still think letting guys like Jim Rice and Jack Morris lowers the standard for the hall, even if they are remembered fondly.
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
by mnbrewer on Jan 11, 2012 8:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That's still not the point...
My point is that “value” in terms of HoF-worthiness is not 100% stats, which is demonstrated by the fact that basically everyone would call Craig Counsell more (Brewers) HoF-worthy than Ellie Rodriguez. There are other factors.
When did I say you couldn’t have an opinion? Just don’t act like anyone who disagrees is an idiot, or go on vitriolic tirades trying to keep some dude out of the Hall, like much of the Internet is guilty of.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 12, 2012 1:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I see what you're saying
but this quote:
The lionization of Morris seems to have started when it wasn’t possible for anyone to have watched him pitch any more – in other words, upon reflection. If Morris is the Hall of Famer that people like Heyman think he is, it should be possible then to elucidate a case for Morris that relies upon reflection, and thus is as accessible to "stat gurus" as it is to those who were there for his career.
Is 100% accurate. Also, people that have seen him pitch, did not have a particularly high opinion of Morris when he was pitching, but now euphoric recall sets in and they think he is great. Also, Heyman’s comment that people who haven’t seen a player pitch essentially don’t have a valid opinion is asinine.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 12, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
Hypothetically speaking
Sometime in the future, an idea buzzes through the BBWAA hive-mind that Luis Sojo was somehow the pivotal member of those Yankees championship teams in the 90s and, thereby, belongs in the Hall of Fame (let’s forget about qualification and candidacy expiration for the moment, because this is a hypothetical and all), and he somehow musters an entry. Does that make Luis Sojo worth of the Hall of Fame?
If you can argue “yes,” then it’s an argument for a Hall of Fame that has dwindled into irrelevancy.
by mpbMKE on Jan 11, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm in the middle...
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"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
He didn't get voted in...
and shouldn’t.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
Did you read the article?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
The picture of Gamel in that article makes him look old...
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 11, 2012 11:22 AM CST reply actions
His wife does not look old, however
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions
Just for reference
Jersey chaser?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
He looks like he is wearing a bad 80’s game show host wig.
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Jan 11, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
He looks like an alcoholic :(
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 11, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
The only dangerous amount is none!
Packers: Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks: Taking care of business as usual.
Badgers: Chin up, boys.
Brewers: Move along, nothin' to see here.
Apparently Ryan Madson is signing a 1 year, $8.5M deal with the Reds
What a rollercoaster for that guy: going from making 4/50 (allegedly) in Philly to that? Yikes. Also, I wonder what’s going to happen to Cordero now. Further, maybe GMs are starting to understand that overpaying in dollars for back-end relievers is stupid. Finally: haha Philly.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 11:30 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
GM's are finally getting it.
Any dollar amount is fine on a one-year deal, but you don’t ever give a free agent reliever more than two years. Ever.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Jan 11, 2012 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if overpaying in prospects will stop happening for back-end relievers now too?
Probably a bit longer until that happens though.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
I hope not!
We need that to continue a bit longer.
Packers: Working on a dynasty.
Blackhawks: Taking care of business as usual.
Badgers: Chin up, boys.
Brewers: Move along, nothin' to see here.
Boras' whining about the 4 year, 44 million deal breaking down with the Phillies...
… is pretty obnoxious. I don’t think he’s doing his pending free agent clients many favors by saying that they had a deal and Philly backed out. It’s pretty clear what happened to me: they had numbers both sides could live with and Boras shopped the deal, so Philly got pissed off and pulled the plug. There are plenty of times when Boras can shop offers and get away with it because of the unique quality of a particular player but Madson in a year with a flooded closer market wasn’t the right situation for it. You’d think the guy who advised KRod to accept arbitration rather than test this particular market would have known that.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 11, 2012 7:04 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Prince is hoping it doesn't blow up in his face this year too.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but now Boras is somehow going to work this into a 10/$120M deal for Madson next offseason.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
What's the deadline for exchanging arbitration amounts?
I want to say January 17, but that’s an educated guess.
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Jan 18th
Calendar of events… link
2012
Jan. 5-15: Salary arbitration filing.
Jan. 18: Exchange of salary arbitration figures.
Feb. 1-21: Salary arbitration hearings, St. Petersburg, Fla.
Feb. 19: Voluntary reporting date to spring training for pitchers, catchers and injured players.
Feb. 24: Voluntary reporting date to spring training for other players.
March 2: Mandatory reporting date to spring training.
March 2-11: Teams may renew contracts of unsigned players.
March 19: Last day to place a player on unconditional release waivers and pay 30 days termination pay instead of 45 days.
Pujols is the Barack Obama of baseball.
Maybe
But you could also say that the Papelbon case screws it up.
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Great point
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 11, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions
Brewers have claimed 2B/SS Jeff Bianchi off waivers
Nice move. He missed the entire 2010 season with Tommy John surgery, but at one point he was actually a legitimate shortstop prospect and he’s still kind of young.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Spring Training is an interesting time.
Especially when it comes to the players not guaranteed roster spots. They’re just workin’ hard to get their fill. Everyone of them wants the thrill of seeing their name on the Opening Day roster. Some of them are payin’ anything to roll the dice just one more time. Among these players, some will win, some will lose, and some were born to sing the blues. Oh, and this movie of spring training never ends, it just goes on and on and on and on.
Of course, the day the roster is announced is the most tense. Many of them were strangers, but now they’re waiting, up and down the boulevard of benches in the locker room. A few are so nervous that they just look at their shadows, just searching in the night of their emotion. The locker room feels like it’s lit by streetlights, and all the people are just living to find emotion of joy that’s hidin’, somewhere in the night.
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Ok, now I am cracking out the few Journey songs I have on the music player today.
Yesterday was baseball song day (which I mean songs from the 2011 that make me think about the Brewers), today will be a limited Journey day.
All I have to listen to are the following songs:
Any Way You Want It
Don’t Stop Belivin’
Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)
Wheel in the Sky
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Those odds for Fielder
show just how few teams are that interested in him at anywhere close to the sort of figure that Boras was hoping for.
I am afraid that if Prince signs a much shorter deal than initially invisioned then people will be asking, with the benifit of hindsight, why Melvin did not re-sign him since it would likely be at a number that the Brewers could of afforded before signing K-Rod and Ramirez.
B-Ref Elo Rater.
I decided I was going to play around with it (if you’re not familiar, it’s their crowd-sourced method of ranking the best players in the history of baseball, based on a chess ranking system developed by a former Marquette professor), and the first two names that popped up to compare were Craig Counsell and Bill Hall. How do I choose?!
I had exactly the same problem
when mine asked me to compare Branyan and Babe Ruth…
BCB Fantasy Football 2011 winner (Swansons League)
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
by MrLeam on Jan 11, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't see where the problem is there
Was there one of those popup ads blocking the Branyan button?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 11, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Now reports are saying the Nationals are unlikely to sign Fielder.
He may want to find a place to sign soon, or he could end up like Bart Simpson in this one episode of The Simpsons.
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The reports originated from one person, and then people became gullible to spread it
According to some people in Federal Baseball, Bill Ladson(the guy who wrote the article), has a tendency to exaggerate and blow things out of proportion.
Plus the article also says that the Nationals were unlikely to give Fielder a Pujols contract, so if Fielder decides for something along the lines of 5/120 or 6/150 they may jump in.
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Jan 11, 2012 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
*gullible enough
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Jan 11, 2012 8:58 PM CST up reply actions
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