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just beat me to it. I’ll delete.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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Yeah, I saw that.
Haven’t bumped this up to front page yet, waiting for confirmation + a little time for prospect poll to get top spot on page.
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Congrats Prince!
You are now the King of Detroit
by torts on Jan 24, 2012 2:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
yeah, he's not a vegatarian, and hasn't been for awhile.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
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what does that have to do with the price of BocaBurgers in Detroit?
refraining from all caps
by BEARDEDJEFF on Jan 24, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
It is an official -JP-
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 PM CST reply actions
At this point, it does look like it is official
Multiple people are now confirming/passing along the information.
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However
when I was at school there were multiple people passing on the rumour that I fancied Emily Stewart and that didn’t make it true. It actually was true, but that’s not the point…
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by MrLeam on Jan 24, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
PS
If by any chance Emily Stewart has developed an interest in the Brewers, ever reads this and is even a quarter as hot looking as she was 20 years ago please feel free to get in contact. Not that I’m clutching at straws or anything. Boy, she was gorgeous though…
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by MrLeam on Jan 24, 2012 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Super rec'd
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Jan 24, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
You make this board a weirder place.
Thank you.
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Can't believe he signed somewhere his dad played.
But I wish him well, good for him getting that kind of cheddar.
Miggy / Prince is going to be sick.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Jan 24, 2012 2:07 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
agreed about the dad thing. never thought he'd go to detroit.
doubt they’d have gone after him if V-Mart hadnt gotten hurt
can't wait to buy a Prince Fielder Tigers shirsey
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Little more info from Heyman
prince will be the first baseman, for anyone asking. cabrera will have to change role. #tigers
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McCalvy also notes:
Prince Fielder to #Tigers would give #Brewers back-to-back 1st round picks in next year’s Draft (27th from DET, then 28th per ’11 record).
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by -JP- on Jan 24, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Digging this.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Jan 24, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
This is the part that make the Tigers such a surprising place for Prince to go
They already had a young 1B who was as good as Prince
Cabrera to the outfield, I guess?
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Jan 24, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
He also is signed until 2015 for $86million and Verlander $60million for the next 3
That is alot of money on 3 players for a team that is not exactly a “big market team”
Defense is overrated. Mash taters, everyday.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Jan 24, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
He'd played 3B about 75 pounds ago.
I suppose Detroit makes sense to give Prince such a huge deal despite his body type. It’s sort of what they do.
...
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:21 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
I know
the media is already eating this up.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
Molitor's sandals spotted.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 24, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Cankles!
"This one means 'Kill Kirk!!!!'... And also, 'hallelujah'... Depending on the context."
by trippingandy on Jan 24, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
An article has been posted on CBSSports.com
The first paragraph is worth a chuckle.
Chalk up one more for the so-called mystery team. First it was Cliff Lee going to the Phillies, then Albert Pujols heading to the Angels. Now Prince Fielder has shocked the baseball world by signing with the Detroit Tigers, a team that hadn’t even been remotely connected to him in rumors the entire offseason. The robust first baseman has signed a nine-year contract worth $214 million, CBSSports.com insider Jon Heyman has learned.
Link
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I'm glad it wasn't the Brewers
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by BEARDEDJEFF on Jan 24, 2012 2:26 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
And out of the NL!
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by Yar Nivek on Jan 24, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was referring to
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
so
Pujols
Teixeira
A. Gonzalez
M. Cabrera
P. Fielder
all in the AL lol damn
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:37 PM CST reply actions
And, in the other major move of the off-season
the AL also secured the services of Yuni, thereby still making it advantage NL.
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by MrLeam on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 11 recs
Always thought
he was chasing years, not money (the money was a given, IMO) and the process dragged on awhile more than anyone expected, so I’m sure Prince took the best offer on the table
BUT
I’m a little shocked he’d follow in his dad’s footsteps in Detroit. My guess is that’s killing him just a bit. He seems to go out of his way to separate himself from that legacy and its going to be impossible to do with the Tigers. I feel a little bad for him that it came to that.
He just signed a forever-gazillionaire contract
His father’s years in Detroit just became a footnote to that
Mark Attanasio is the best.
by nullacct on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
youre nuts
if you think that won’t be the story line his entire time there. This is cliche journalistic heaven.
He will be answering questions about his dad for at least the first 6 months and then any time he approaches any of his dad’s records.
First it’ll be about how he spent so much time there as a kid. Then they’ll move on to their strained relationship and speculation on how Cecil feels about it and lots of Cecil quotes and whether than can reconcile. Then it’ll be “chasing his dad’s shadow” every time he reaches one of his dad’s milestones.
Consider the number of “rematch” stories we’ve seen about Pats/Giants in the SB this year. Writers can’t resist a “Storyline”
by Nicole Haase on Jan 24, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Prince Fielder: The Decision 2012
“I’m taking my talents to Flint”
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 24, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha
Michael Moore is directing, right?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions
If I had to listen to that every day I'd demand a trade by the end of spring training
Mark Attanasio is the best.
Well, he made his bed
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
In the long run that is probably an awesome purging opportunity for him and his dad.
Maybe signing in D was the first step towards reconciliation with his father.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
that was my thought, too
but on the other hand, he could view it as a chance to obliterate all his dad’s records.
by Capt Science on Jan 24, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
so what good first basemen are left in the NL?
Ryan Howard and his ruined Achilles and Joey Votto? Corey Hart is probably the third best first basemen in the NL now.
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:41 PM CST reply actions
haha I know
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
just remembered Berkman and Morse
Morse should make the all star game this year.
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
Paul Goldschmidt, that's right. He could be good as well.
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know much about him
other than the 8 homers he hit in the NLDS.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Speaking of that
It was announced that La Russa will manage the All-Star Game.
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he's probably pissed he won't be able to throw at Braun
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
That's bullshit
I think if you decide to retire, you forgo the right to manage the All Star team.
That and the fact that he’s an alcoholic assclown.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
TH brings up a good point
So, home-field advantage in the World Series is tied to the All-Star Game winner and a retired manager is going to lead the NL?
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
haha well done
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions
I have no idea how Boras does this
There’s no way any of the other suitors were offering anywhere near this contract.
This was my first thought too.
I’d bet my next paycheck there wasn’t another team offering more than ~180. And I’d be surprised if anyone but the Nationals was offering more than 150.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
But do we actually know who all the suitors were?
Detroit wasn’t even listed among the “finalists”, but yet managed to be the high bidder.
I'm happy you got your money, Prince!
Now I can forget about you and go back to cheering on my favorite team, the Milwaukee Brewers of the National League Central.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
I just checked out the Tigers SBNation blog.
They are in complete shock.
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Good or bad shock?
He’s a phenomenal player but that’s a lot of years and a lot of money.
On Wisconsin!
probably a little bit of both I bet
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Mostly just shock in general
I think it was good shock, few were questioning the years/money.
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As a side note, Prince Fielder got $200,000,000 on my birthday
I got $35 from my Grandma.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:44 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Prince gets $200MM to swing a baseball bat.
Charlie got $35 for being born.
Advantage: Charlie.
(Happy birthday.)
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Jan 24, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Haha awesome
thanks man
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Happy birthday!
I like stuff
by molitorfan on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
So next year the Tigers will have
Cabrera, Fielder, Victor Martinez together? That’s scary.
Automatically favorites to win the AL Central.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
if they can find 3 places for them to all play at the same time. haha
It wouldn’t surprise me if Detroit tried to move Cabrera next offseason.
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions
No way
Cabrera will play 3B, Prince at 1B, Martinez at DH.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
I mean not "No Way"
but I see it working.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
should be an awesome defense haha
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
they’re following the Brewers’ model. Also: Packers, Saints, Patriots
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
not to take the thread off topic
but I think the Packers are two pieces away from having a good defense again (Collins hopefully returning and a pass rushing OLB/DE)
now back to baseball!
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
I was just thinking how defense was supposedly the new market inefficiency in baseball
Jack Z. and his Mariners fielded perhaps the best defensive teams ever the past few years. But that didn’t help them win games.
So, go the other direction and you get the Brewers and Cardinals.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
this is incredibly true
It’ll be interesting for the Brewers this year because the defense has improved but the offense is the wild card. You could argue that losing Prince will mean the offense will regress, but they did replace two black holes in the lineup, so it could even out. I’m not a huge advanced stats guy though, so I have nothing to back it up haha
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Defense is quickly becoming the old market inefficiency again
With teams signing guys who can’t hit for significant money to save ~5-10 runs on defense.
The pendulum may be getting ready to swing the other way again.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
I think its pretty clear that middle ground is probably the right way to go
If you’re all defense but can’t hit, you’re the Mariners. If you’re all offense and can’t defend, you’re the Cardinals.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
I know
I mean I think all parties would agree that there was a decent amount of luck in the Cardinals’ winning the World Series last year, but they had the 4th worst team UZR/150 in baseball at -5.0, but the 4th best wRC+ in all of baseball at 111.
FWIW, Brewers were actually 9th best in UZR/150 with a 0.9, and 6th in wRC+ with 105.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Tony LaRussa's VooDoo Doll Magic?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Martinez played catcher a lot for a while,
but Avila has done so well, that’s no longer an option. If it comes down to Cabrera or Martinez for who stays, like I think it will, adios Miguel.
2011: A wasted year
I think they all stay.
Cabrera will go to third or the outfield.
fka "warwick5s"
by DEUCE SLUICE on Jan 24, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Certainly with offense
Ground balls towards either line will probably be hits.
Detroit baseball will not lack excitement.
Yeah, and 2 and 3 and 4 aren't bad
in Scherzer, Fister and Porcello
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
By next year I take it you mean 2013...
I don’t know how good Martinez will be after a whole year out plus I think he is a doubt to play catcher again
Yeah 2013
Also they have Alex Avila to catch who’s pretty damn good himself. Martinez will just DH.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Victor Martinez is basically Corey Hart; if he's not catching he's not that amazing
But yeah, Cabrera-Fielder is ridiculous.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I'm very happy about this
Close enough to visit, far enough (division-wise) that he doesn’t conflict with the Brewers.
For losing Sabathia and Fielder to FA
We netted a No. 27 pick, two supplementals and a second-rounder.
Something is wrong with that.
The # of games we had CC is irrelevant
We had rights to compensation — that was part of his value in the trade — and ended up getting dicked because NYY signed Texiera in the same offseason.
by MooseHaas on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd also point out that the ranking system is ridiculous
There’s no way Teixeira is more valuable than Sabathia. At any point in time.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm sure the rights to compensation were part of CC's value in the trade.
I’m also pretty sure they weren’t a big part of that value.
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
Have you literally not been paying attention to the last 2-3 years of MLB
in which prospects/draft picks have suddenly been valued more than they EVER have in the history of the game?
I mean, we made that trade out of desperation to make the playoffs, and got a lot of value out of it, but there was most certainly an expectation that we’d get a first-rounder back in the deal.
by MooseHaas on Jan 24, 2012 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Prince was a Cubs fan all along!!!!!
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 3:03 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
giants? cubs? tigers?
well, at least the zubaz match…
by Capt Science on Jan 24, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
Is that Alan Trammel?
He’s like “come on, fatass, get off the field”.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha yeah
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
Prince deserves a lot of credit
How many fat rich kids end up actually doing something productive with their lives?
I’d say less than 10 percent. He ended up being a world-class athlete.
by MooseHaas on Jan 24, 2012 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He ain't an athlete, lady, he's a baseball player
/Kruk’d
His jiggling is almost hypnotic.
by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Jan 24, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not smart enough to plan something like that.
Life is kinda cool sometimes.
His jiggling is almost hypnotic.
by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
Good for him
The Tigers play in Baltimore the weekend after the All Star break. The warehouse has been put on notice.
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by molitorfan on Jan 24, 2012 3:05 PM CST via mobile reply actions
TH notes the Brewers do play AL Central teams in the interleague rotation this year
but not the Tigers. I’d imagine we’ll see him once a year after the Astros move and we have interleague play all season
"I was so drunk I thought a tube of toothpaste was astronaut food"
My Twittah!
As a transplanted Brewers fan in Michigan,
This gives me a fabulous reason to finally make my first trip over to Comerica Park to see a Tigers game. And even to pay attention to Tigers games on the airwaves now and then. I like this.
"Aw, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. Forfty percent of all people know that."
haha this tweet from Peter Gammon
Joey Votto will love L.A.
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by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 24, 2012 3:11 PM CST reply actions
Like the guy in the $7000 suit is going to take a one-year deal
Come on!
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
And Milwaukee gets screwed AGAIN.
Thrilled he won’t be donning a Cubs Unix though.
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 3:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Eh
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
How is this Milwaukee getting screwed?
by cwolf20 on Jan 24, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Draft pick could be higher.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
How exactly did Milwaukee get screwed here?
With their $100 million payroll they could’ve signed Fielder to this deal. They just chose not to.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 24, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't even want to know what a "unix" is, and why it is capitalized.
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
Would have preferred #16, but back-to-back picks is kind of cool, I guess.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I'm just glad the Brewers got a first round pick for him
The difference in value between picks 15-20 and 25-30 is way less than the difference between 25-30 and 55-60.
Branyan>Gehrig
What’s your point?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 24, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for truthiness...
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Thank you for your insight, TexTexington.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
They couldn't REALLY sign Prince
Unless they wanted to handcuff this team for years to come.
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 3:34 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Did you know you can reply to a specific comment?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
I think we're barking up the wrong tree
and by that I mean we’re barking up a tree that has been chopped down.
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
IT'S LOG!
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
by Rubie Q on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll be singing that all day now.
Better than bad, it’s good!
His jiggling is almost hypnotic.
by Morbidly-Obese, Right-Handed Jamie Moyer on Jan 24, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
I originally thought we were being trolled, but then...
I realized he’s been a member on here since March 2011.
On Wisconsin!
I wasnt trolling. I was stating an opinion you all dont agree with.
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 4:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think the big problem is you made a comment that doesn't make any sense
when you said
And Milwaukee gets screwed AGAIN.
So, it isn’t really about disagreeing with an opinion, its that what you said doesn’t have any factual merit.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think you were, it was the Fielder>Gamel comment.
It came off as a little troll-y.
On Wisconsin!
I think the issue is actually that what you said didn't make sense
when you said:
And Milwaukee gets screwed AGAIN.
Its not really an issue of disagreeing with your opinion, its more that your statement has no facts.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Here
And Milwaukee loses an elite level player AGAIN just like they did with CC. Sorry for the confusion “Charlie Marlow”.
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 4:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
They didn't lose anything
Both Sabathia and Fielder decided they didn’t want to sign with the Brewers.
Again, you aren’t really making cogent statements.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
How did the Brewers offer Prince and CC?
Nothing even remotely close to what they got in the end.
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 5:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So?
How does that mean they got screwed?
I don’t think you understand this whole ‘baseball’ or ‘sports’ or ‘screwed’ thing.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 5:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Apparently
When really good players leave a team for ridiculous money it means the team got screwed… not that the team avoided seriously handicapping themselves by keeping the player.
by sjlee on Jan 25, 2012 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Draft pick could have been higher.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
That doesn't mean they got screwed
-sjlee
by cwolf20 on Jan 24, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The Brewers lose a fantastic player(though inevitable)
And replace him with Gamel(horrible) and Hart(usually good for 3 weeks per season)
Ugh. Guess that’s just the way baseball works:/
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 3:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wait, Gamel is horrible?
Support that, please.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Career .684 OPS with bad defense
But nobody’s great right away… except Braun
Mark Attanasio is the best.
Wait, you're using what sample size for that?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Disregard, I completely read the comment wrong.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah he'll have to play
but we don’t really know anything about how he defends at 1B, just at 3B. Also, as a reminder, here’s the number of PA’s specific stats take to stabilize:
Offense Statistics:
50 PA: Swing%
100 PA: Contact Rate
150 PA: Strikeout Rate, Line Drive Rate, Pitches/PA
200 PA: Walk Rate, Ground Ball Rate, GB/FB
250 PA: Fly Ball Rate
300 PA: Home Run Rate, HR/FB
500 PA: OBP, SLG, OPS, 1B Rate, Popup Rate
550 PA: ISO
Thanks to FanGraphs for that. So, keeping in mind that Mat Gamel’s entire major league sample size has consisted of 194 PAs over parts of 4 different seasons, I always hesitate to use any of those statistics for projecting.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah his sample is as inconsistent as they come.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
Perhaps you don't know what "screwed" means then?
by sjlee on Jan 24, 2012 3:58 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, this is the problem.
He means, “Unfortunatized”
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
but also unlucky.
2011: A wasted year
by Tepo6688 on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
2010-11
Prince Fielder: 8.9 fWAR, 1406 PA
Corey Hart: 7.9 fWAR, 1165 PA
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 24, 2012 3:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Happy it is a stupid huge deal
So I dont have to be angry that doug didn’t spring for another 5-10% to keep prince.
When there is a scuffle in Ireland, there’s no need to specifically mention in the news story that alcohol was involved
by Getting Yosted on Jan 24, 2012 3:40 PM CST via mobile reply actions 6 recs
Yeah, for sure
It’s kinda how I felt, I was pretty sure he was going to get an enormous payday we couldn’t afford to match. I’m left with nothing but good feelings for a former Brewer who hit a huge payday.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
Now that Prince is not-a-Brewer, can I ask the hardhitting question?
How the hell did he get $214M? Really?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I don't think you're going to get much discussion on this
I’m pretty sure no one who is sane would have thought he would get that big a deal this late.
Market logistics aside, I'm just wondering how a guy who's maybe 5th? 6th? best in the majors at his position got A-Rod/Pujols money.
No disrespect to Prince, who is still awesome.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Counting stats still have value to teams
But once again, I’m not disagreeing with you at all. This doesn’t make any sense. This is 3 years and 60 million more than I would have ever expected him to get.
Market logistics considered
at what point do the Tigers realize they were negotiating against themselves?
We pull our pants up and do our jobs here.
No opt-out clause.
Sometime after the laughter from every other GM calling the Tigers’ front office and the lonely sobbing of Doug Melvin have passed they’ll have an Arrested Development-level moment of revelation.
Boras paid of the team doctor doing the physical
Had him erase the “2” on the chart so it said he only had 8% body fat. The number guys went nuts and projected him for 90 HRs.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
Good for him, good for us.
Prince not being a Cub or Cardinal = yay us!
I have no concept.
by menchkins on Jan 24, 2012 3:52 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Bye you fat greedy bastard :)
Detroit was so stupid to give him this deal better them than the Brewers that amount is so stupid
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
by WSB Chris on Jan 24, 2012 3:55 PM CST via mobile reply actions
For the love of all things holy
You got banned for being repeatedly obnoxious during a playoff game. Referring to Fielder multiple times as “chubsy wubbsy” was the specific offense, but the overlying factor is that you were being unbearably obnoxious during a playoff game.
If you keep acting like you’re being persecuted somehow, then you’re going to force me to prove you right.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 24, 2012 5:25 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
took me a second to figure out you were not talking about me Kyle
I was like I do not remember being banned during the playoff but i was pretty drunk for a few of those game ;)
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
I'm persecuting you too, but you're not the subject in this case. :-)
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 24, 2012 10:04 PM CST up reply actions
Trying this out...
Thank you for your… insight?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 24, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Trolling my fat ass
You knew I am not a huge Prince fan I have been nothing but consistent on this front
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
by WSB Chris on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know, I'm thanking you for your continued insight on this matter.
Prior to your post I had never considered the, “Fat Greedy Hypothesis,” as I’ve now taken to calling it.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
What ever you all kiss his fat ass on the way out of town
I have soccer matchs to watch just glad he is gone and we can move on
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
by WSB Chris on Jan 24, 2012 4:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thank you for your Insight, WSB Chris
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah a snarky reply by Charlie
Yeah I missed that, shouldn’t you be lighting candles at your Prince Shrine you guys all remind me of all the mopes at Buckys 5th Quarter trying to convince themselves that getting to the Rose Bowl and losing is ok
That is why we will always be a second tier team we accept shit like this with a smile while we eat our shit sandwich :)
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Thank you for your insight, WSB Chris.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 9:53 PM CST up reply actions
Please... God... Punctuation...
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
Thank you for your insight
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
by mnbrewer on Jan 25, 2012 9:04 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You guys are using it so much, it is already stale as week old bread
way to beat a dead horse and to be so unoriginal MN or should I call you the Teaching Assistant since you are grading our comments on punctuation and style.
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
YOU WILL NOT TALK ABOUT THAT GAME!
Actually, I am okay with that game, because I feel like the kids did what they could to win it, and quite literally, the ball didn’t bounce Wisconsin’s way. Combine that with the coaching staff getting a much needed makeover, and I can’t be too upset.
2011: A wasted year
what you mean the second Rose Bowl in a row we have lost
That game but it is ok Tepo as long as you try hard it is ok winning does not matter unless you in the SEC
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Oh, winning most assuredly matters, and it will come.
But that specific game, they did what they could.
2011: A wasted year
man, i'm kind of hoping someone you love becomes fat
so maybe you’ll stop with the self-righteous, overweight suffering people are horrible scumbags that clearly have little to no redeeming value to humanity trip… ;)
Mark Attanasio is the best.
by nullacct on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
I see what you did there
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
It hasn't prevented him from doing his job at a very high level
also =D
Mark Attanasio is the best.
by nullacct on Jan 24, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We could just take that entire conversation
and recycle all of the comments for every argument ever here and I think it would make sense.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
I think he started a charity too.
To help other fat people find good baseball agents.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
It's like...
The end of a stand-up performance
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
So that means the comments yesterday were a joke, right?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Let us hope.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
Not really.
You caught me, I’m soundly prejudiced against people who recreationally abuse drugs and alcohol.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
No really, here he is at his his charity working with tubby youth
Prince’s FatCademy for Plus-Sized Young Athletes
Mark Attanasio is the best.
by nullacct on Jan 24, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I call photoshop.
The kid on the bottom-right has clearly been edited to look skinnier.
2011: A wasted year
If I am fat do I count ;P
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
by WSB Chris on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh I will couple of Crackers tomorrow
Liverpool vs Man City and Barcalona vs Real Madird must see TV
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
by WSB Chris on Jan 24, 2012 4:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Liverpool FSC+ real vs barca ESPN3
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
by WSB Chris on Jan 24, 2012 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I move to change name of "Fat Greedy Hypothesis"
to “Glutton Hypothesis”.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just glad he's in the AL.
Now I can still root for him.
2011: A wasted year
by Tepo6688 on Jan 24, 2012 4:06 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I do not understand all the love
Prince basically said all of your years of support mean nothing just show me the money. Unlike Braun who choose us over a lot of places that would pay him more
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
by WSB Chris on Jan 24, 2012 4:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I'm with you
I have always liked Prince, I think he’s a great hitter, but Braun showed who was the better team player in my opinion. Milwaukee>big money
When did the Brewers offer Prince a 15-year contract years before he was a free agent?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Seems fairly obvious to me
1) He was a fantastic player
2) He was relatively engaging and appeared to be having fun when he played
3) He didn’t screw us over when he left
Just because you really appreciate Prince doesn’t mean you can’t like Braun as well
BCB Fantasy Football 2011 winner (Swansons League)
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
by MrLeam on Jan 24, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
He probably has some daddy complex and is afraid to end up broke like Cecil...
Subconsciously had to take the money.
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
Also
the just ever so slightly important factor that the Tigers offered him millions and millions more than the Brewers did. In order for him to have stayed he wouldn’t just have had to have loved the Brewers but married them, changed his name by deed poll to “Prince Brewer” and worn around his neck a vial containing the blood of Robin Yount mixed with the tears of Bernie Brewer…
BCB Fantasy Football 2011 winner (Swansons League)
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
I guess I don't understand
Why is a player a bad person or “greedy” if he chooses to take more money to play somewhere else and not take a huge discount and the place that happened to draft him?
Are you “greedy” for leaving your job for a huge raise at another company? It’s how the real world works, not just baseball.
Exactly
If someone chooses to turn down money to stay at a club he loves that’s fantastic and they deserve to be shown considerable support. However, if someone leaves to get more money then good luck to them…
BCB Fantasy Football 2011 winner (Swansons League)
"LOLOL I LOVE YUNI!!!!": ThroughBeingCool
Its really just that people are pissed about the free agent system
that’s the only logical explanation I can think of. Its so much easier to say “Player X is a terrible human being and disrespects the fans because he didn’t take less money to stay with Team A. Obviously by signing for _ more dollars with Team B, he is a selfish, greedy asshole” than it is to say “The free agency system in baseball (really any sport) has made it so that there are very few players who spend their entire careers with one team, and that makes me sad.”
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd
Because I was going to make a comment similar to that last statement. It does make me sad.
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
It doesn't bother me at all
We don’t get any of our players from Wisconsin to begin with. They mostly come from California and Texas and Florida, and they go to college at Notre Dame and Cal State and Miami, and play their minor league ball in Helena and Huntsville and Nashville. Then eventually they play for us, for a few years, and they move on. These are great guys who chase a dream, and are fun to watch play. We don’t own them, we borrow them, and just because we like them doesn’t mean they have to stay, and just because they don’t stay doesn’t mean we have to stop liking them.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
by nullacct on Jan 24, 2012 9:09 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I never said they had to stay, or that we shouldn't like them
I just think it’s sad when they leave a team that they have come to be associated with, and I don’t think MLB fully understands the value of having identifiable players on every team who stay there for a good portion of their careers.
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
by mnbrewer on Jan 25, 2012 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Or maybe if there were more of them
they wouldn’t have as much value.
by placidity on Jan 25, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
Lightning McQueen turned down Dynaco to stay with Rusteeze, and Dynaco had a helicopter.
Yuni hates space garbage
by supercarnie on Jan 24, 2012 9:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, but he learned his lesson in the end!
Never trust a buck-toothed tow truck.
2011: A wasted year
Easy.
Ryan Braun is insane. Or really doesn’t value money in teh way most people would, would could be construed, in some light of the word by a segment of the population, as being insane.
He’s insane and ours. I’m not unhappy about this. But I also can’t blame Prince Fielder for doing the exact same thing I would have done if someone proposed a $214MM contract that was guaranteed the moment I signed it.
From 2010-11, how many current Brewers were more valuable than Prince Fielder (fWAR)?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Braun, Weeks and Greinke
Plus Hart and Gallardo if you adjust for playing time.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
Was going to guess Hart and Gallardo
but, really, Greinke?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Greinke is like the best player on the team...
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I find that number very hard to believe
I guess I have to believe you, because you wouldn’t make it up, but he sure didn’t seem that valuable.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
The latter
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions
Where are you getting that?
3.9 pitching, .4 batting.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
Greinke only pitched in 2011 for the Brewers
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
I just didn't understand why you'd take his stats from a different team
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
I was intending to clarify that
But his wording technically allows 2010 despite ZG not being a Brewer.
Oh you're including his 2010 with the Royals?
I wouldn’t do that
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
I was asking who, from the subset of current Brewers, was most valuable from 2010-11
Alex Gonzalez is fair game too, though I don’t think he out fWAR-ed Fielder
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I don't understand the significance
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
Because they are baseball players on the Brewers? Versus the one who is now on the Tigers?
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
I mean in the choice of 2010-11
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions
(Because it looks worse if you do 2009-11)
Only Braun and Greinke.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
GGGotcha
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
Fun with arbitrary endpoints
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I didn't read it that way
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 4:36 PM CST up reply actions
The difference between ZG and Prince is negligible
But yes, he’s technically .1 higher.
Gallardo, if you include batting, yes. I do not, however, include playing time. Total value includes injury time.
In class, just found out the news
I’m going to be watching a lot of Tigers games this year.
We’ll miss you, big fella. You were the straw that stirred the drink.
by Cheeseandcorn on Jan 24, 2012 4:27 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Wow
That’s a lot of money. But good for him. Congrats to Prince. More than anything, I’m glad there’s now no chance of him becoming a Cub or a Cardinal.
My goodness.
by BrewHaHeather on Jan 24, 2012 4:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I know it's all been said ad nauseum by now, but....
1. So long Prince, and thanks for all the fun!
2. Go Tigers.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 24, 2012 5:52 PM CST reply actions
Oh, and, while I'm pretty comfortable with my own abilities...
… I wish I were half as good at my job as Boras is at his.
What a ridiculous contract to get in this market and this late in the game.
There almost has to be a buyout 3-5 years in that we haven’t heard about yet, right?
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 24, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed re: Boras
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
Looks like no opt outs or options
Wonder how that’ll fly around years 7/8/9 of this contract?
by Chuckiehacks83 on Jan 24, 2012 7:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I imagine they are thinking World Series...
with a “let’s not worry about the future until it’s worry time”, attitude
On Wisconsin!
Does Braun get paid while he is suspended?
If he is in fact suspended.
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 6:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions
No, he doesn't.
However, I don’t think the Brewers get to keep the money. I believe it usually gets donated to a charity.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
Whither the Milwaukee Brewers in 2012
You guys are in for a long season. Hate to say that because I like it when the Brewers are a good club, but not as good as the Cubs.
You need to come to grips with the fact that a rebuilding job is in order asap. No more juiced Braun and no more Prince is awfully hard to overcome. Spin Gallardo and Greinke for top tier prospects. Trade Weeks to the highest bidder. That’s what I’d do. You have a very good manager in Roenicke. And presumably enough payroll room to support a decent team when it is time to win once again.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Thank you for your insight, BLou
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Jan 24, 2012 7:48 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
Oh man he can't be serious...
A samurai sword collection. If you can do it. I don’t know if you’re allowed.
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Jan 24, 2012 7:58 PM CST up reply actions
I was expecting a Brewers-suck troll, but "not as good as the Cubs"?
It has to be remotely believable to be effective, dude.
If Plush had to pick Wearwolf or Vampire, I'm a Wearwolf!
by SRB on Jan 24, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Someone should make a site where BLou and BTC can talk to each other without bothering me.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jan 24, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
I'm not sure he was saying the Brewers are better than the Cubs,
I took it as a qualifier to his “I like when the Brewers are good” statement.
"Well they can't test for LSD, so I started frying on weekends"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
wait, wait…..
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Go ahead, make my day.
by ilikeburritos on Jan 24, 2012 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Who exactly do the Cubs have that makes them "leaps and bounds" better than the Brewers?
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 9:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And you're gone.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Jan 24, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
But he was offering so much insight!
2011: A wasted year
by Tepo6688 on Jan 25, 2012 12:17 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
...
"Who ever heard of the Cubs losing a game they had to have?" -Frank Chance
"If [Ruth] had [called his shot], I would have knocked him down with the next pitch." -Charlie Root
by Clutch16 on Jan 25, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
lol Awesome.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Jan 25, 2012 10:45 PM CST up reply actions
No comment
You have a very good manager in Roenicke.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
you lost me at "have a very good manager in Roenicke."
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Jan 25, 2012 8:19 AM CST up reply actions
Stay Classy, Chicago
Thanks for Stopping By.
But mainly, Stay Classy.
by tcyoung on Jan 25, 2012 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Whither the Chicago Cubs in 2012
You guys are in for a long season. Hate to say that because I like it when the Cubs are a good club, but not as good as the Brewers.
You need to come to grips with the fact that a rebuilding job is in order asap. No more hot-head Zambrano and no more Ramirez is awfully hard to overcome. Spin Garza and Dempster for top tier prospects. Trade DeJesus to the highest bidder. That’s what I’d do. You have a very good manager in Sveum. And presumably enough payroll room to support a decent team when it is time to win once again.
by sjlee on Jan 25, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I bet you in 9 years when he's 36 we can afford him.
For some reason, I can’t shake this feeling that he’ll come back here and wind down his hall of fame career where it started. Hank Aaron style.
Fighter of the Nightman. Champion of the sun. Master of karate & friendship for everyone.
by The Dayman on Jan 24, 2012 8:40 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I will miss his moon shots.
I will not miss him saying “you know” 9000 times during every post game interview.
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 9:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Plush is so damn cool I don't even care.
Any chance you saw the interview on MLB Network last year with Braun and Fielder where Plush was their “security guard”? Gold Jerry gold!!!!!
by TexTexington on Jan 24, 2012 10:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I hope the Detroit fans understand that he's a notorious slow starter
If they expect him to tip the fences from opening day and he doesn’t heat up until the second half like usual, it could set the tone for his stay in Detroit. Nine years is a long time to play for an unappreciative crowd.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
Buster Olney on SportsCenter just said the plan is to play Cabrera at 3rd
There’s no way that could go wrong…. right?
"Well they can't test for LSD, so I started frying on weekends"
Jinx was just thinking the same thing
They better both Mash at the plate to make up for the missed balls and errors lol
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Detroits defense on the corners is going to intresting to dismal
With Prince at 1st and Cabrera at 3rd it could be a fun year at Comerica
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
Sigh to be interesting to dismal sorry MN I did not proof read my Paper before turning it in
"It's a joke. It's all a joke.
as he gets older
and not playing in the cushy warm MP in spring and fall I expect the injury bug to finally catch up to the big man.
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
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27 | 20 | .574 | 0 | Won 2 |
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St. Louis
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26 | 22 | .541 | 1.5 | Won 1 |
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Pittsburgh
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23 | 24 | .489 | 4 | Won 3 |
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Houston
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22 | 24 | .478 | 4.5 | Lost 1 |
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Milwaukee
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19 | 27 | .413 | 7.5 | Lost 1 |
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Chicago
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15 | 32 | .319 | 12 | Lost 12 |
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