Tuesday's Frosty Mug
Some things to read while Vince McMahon ruins your coffee.
We're four days away from pitchers and catchers reporting to Maryvale, and by the end of the day we should have a near-certain picture of the 2012 payroll. Jose Veras, the team's last unsigned arbitration-eligible player, and the Brewers had their hearing yesterday, and the results are expected today (FanShot). Veras requested $2.375 million from the team, who countered with a $2 million offer. That difference doesn't seem like much but, as Mykenk points out, there is another gap to consider.
Yesterday we reported that John Axford was held up on the way into the US due to some border issues regarding his son. Today I'm happy to report those issues have been resolved and the Axfords are likely in Phoenix by now.
It's safe to assume that Axford and nearly every other Brewer regular and veteran won't play in this game: The team announced yesterday that they'll play a game in Tucson against the Mariners on March 16. It's a split squad game (the Brewers also visit the Royals on that day), but technically listed as a Brewer home game. Players who can get away with it usually avoid the long bus ride from Phoenix like the plague.
2012 will be Jonathan Lucroy's second full major league season, and he's already become steady enough that we kind of take him for granted. J.P. Breen of Disciples of Uecker has a look at Lucroy's slide to end the 2011 season and his expectations for 2012.
In the minors:
- David Laurila of FanGraphs has a Q&A with Brewer director of amateur scouting Bruce Seid.
- Brewer Nation continued their "Brewers By the (Jersey) Numbers" series with a profile of Cody Scarpetta.
- Craig Counsell will be the special guest at Wisconsin's Leadoff Experience in April.
- The Timber Rattlers are also continuing to promote their Opening Day bobbleheads. This week's video is titled "The Good, The Bad, & The Bobbly."
Many of you will probably recall that last spring the JS was shorthanded with Todd Rosiak still covering Marquette, so the paper turned to several Arizona State journalism students to help fill the gap. The program has apparently expanded this spring, and the Brewers are now one of four teams that will have students.
Around baseball:
Athletics: Signed outfielder Yoenis Cespedes to a four year, $36 million deal.
Blue Jays: Signed reliever Casey Janssen to a two year, $5.9 million deal with a club option for 2014, avoiding arbitration.
Red Sox: Signed DH David Ortiz to a one year, $14.75 million deal to avoid arbitration.
Even with the Cespedes signing, Jon Paul Morosi of Fox Sports lists the A's as one of five teams that got worse this winter and won't make the playoffs in 2012.
While the Brewers get ready to report to Maryvale, their NL Central rivals are also days away from opening their 2012 seasons. Mark Sheldon of MLB.com has a list of the site's spring previews from around the division.
In former Brewers: Tim Brown of Yahoo has a great, extended story on baseball in the Dominican Republic that features Dave Valle and a moment during his time in winter ball that appears to have changed the direction of his life.
This morning's edition of Today In Brewer History celebrates Takashi Saito's 42nd birthday. Kelly Stinnett also turns 42 today, and Plunk Everyone notes that he's second among all February 14-born batters with 42 career HBP.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to submit a complaint.
Drink up.
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Early mug
Maybe you should’ve called it the Frosty Mug (of Iced Coffee).
Where was your daily mention of Ryan Braun’s arbitration hearing and lack of outcome? It’s like watching an entire Brewers broadcast without having Rock blurting out some baseball platitude. It’s somehow disappointing.
Don be a dick
the same things are never said at this site. Now if you excuse me I have to go RIDE BIKES~!
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by Jeo on Feb 14, 2012 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
LOLLERSKATES~!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Hope this helps...
@Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
A decision on Ryan Braun is expected before Feb. 24, the day he would report to spring training. jsonline.com/blogs/sports/1…
He links to this JSOnline (omg 20 views!) article by Haudricourt.
So in essence, nothing real new and probably nothing you couldn’t have guessed yourself. So basically what Kyle said:
There’s really only so many times I can say the same thing.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Feb 14, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
So expect the decision on Feb, 23rd 11.59pm.
...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 14, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'm started to get a bit upset about this
I’ve been pretty placid about the whole thing, but it’s past the point of being insulting to Braun. If it hadn’t leaked, the organization would’ve been blindsided entirely the night before Spring Training? How could the possibly make a move to help cover themselves on that timeline? MLB is making absolutely no friends with this and has likely created a new contentious point during the next CBA talks in a few years.
I’m still trying to figure out how the independent artbitor himself could take so long unless he’s been enlisting an army of experts to help him sort through things. Then again, maybe he has enlisted the help of a few experts to sort through everything. Idle speculation would lead one to the same conclusion a few people have drawn before that this isn’t necessarily an open-and-shut case if it’s taking this long to come up with a decision.
by ecocd on Feb 14, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Interesting question...
Does MLB inform both the player and the team of the potential suspension before the appeal? Say it hadn’t leaked, would Braun have been at liberty to tell the Brewers what was going on? Would MLB have kept the Brewers looped in? I imagine they would have to for that very reason.
That is where you maybe could find a silver-lining in the "leaking" of the information...
Like you suggested, Braun could have told the Brewers. He could have also withheld the information. At least now, the Brewers have taken some options to buttress the situation.
But in reality, that would be the most extreme example of a silver-lining. This whole situation just sucks.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Feb 15, 2012 1:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Wouldn't it be great...
As I understand, if it weren’t for the leak, there would be nothing to report because the whole thing would’ve remained confidential. In other words, if the ruling was overturned, MLB would not report anything because they would have to act as if nothing ever happened. If it was overturned, I believe it is up to Braun and his handlers to make any announcement because MLB would not.
Wouldn’t it be great if the Brewers and Braun both knew something, and they are just waiting until the last minute to say, “Oh, by the way, Braun can play. He was never actually suspended so we don’t know what everyone was worried about”? I think that would be a hilarious PR move.
by valley_man0505 on Feb 15, 2012 8:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The key word is "expect"
It’s still not a deadline, so there’s still a chance that it could go beyond that date.
Four Days.
Four days until actual, official, baseball related activities start. I feel like my wife is coming home from a 4 month vacation and the only communication I had with her was via postcards.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
"Telegrams" would've been funnier
BREWERS SIGN AOKI TO INCENTIVE-LADEN CONTRACT COULD BE INSURANCE AGAINST BRAUNS POTENTIAL SUSPENSION
STIO
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
*STOP
ugh, I should look at it first.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
I really need to rewatch that episode.
Because it’s one of the greatest.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Dammit where were you earlier?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
Haudricort says Brewers win Veras arbitration case.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 14, 2012 11:18 AM CST reply actions
Melvin now has 375K burning a hole in his pocket.
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Oh. Then he should have gone lower!
Fire Doug Melvin!
Just trying to get in rage-shape for the season.
by The Left Button on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
I love the idea of journalism students covering the Brewers
iirc, they came up with some really good articles last spring too
Mark Attanasio is the best.
One things for sure
They’ll be better than Anthony Witardo
REWIND YOURSELF!
by drezdn on Feb 14, 2012 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Arizona State has a fantastic journalism school
They’re really on the cutting edge when it comes to pro-am stuff like this.
Arizona State: Come for the partying, stay for the journalism!
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 14, 2012 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Spend all your money on boos and valtrex so that you can make none of it back with your journalism degree!
by tcyoung on Feb 14, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL BARISTA JOBS
Actually, though, ASU’s working on that, too.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 14, 2012 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
Halloweenie?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
?

"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
ASU: Where they put Plan B contraception in the water supply
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
ASU
Closer to the University of Phoenix than you’d think.
by mpbMKE on Feb 14, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
As a University of Arizona student...
I love this. I hope this quote will be my valentine.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
Boos haha
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
-784 GAAR
(Good Articles Above Replacement)
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 14, 2012 11:42 AM CST reply actions
Reply Fail...
AGAIN. I’m terrible at this.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 14, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
you really Witradoed that.
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by Jeo on Feb 14, 2012 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Ouch.
I deserved some ridicule, but thats pretty harsh.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 14, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions
I went to one of the Brewers' ST games in Tucson back in 2009
YoGa was the starter, but other than that, it was a lineup of Mike Lamb, Tony Gwynn Jr., Hall, Counsell, Mike Rivera, etc.
The Braunophile asked “Where’s Prince Fielder?” I had to tell him, “Back in Phoenix, I think.”
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=290323127
Not such a bad day for Rockies fans, though, since Ubaldo was pitching and it was Tulo Bobblehead day.
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
I went to one in 2010 in Tucson
I dont remember all the specifics, but the starter was someone from the pen.
The two bright spots I could sell to my girlfriend and family. “Look Craig Counsell, you know who he is!” and “Hey Brett Lawrie is someone you will hear about soon, hes the brewers top prospect!”
One of those is still relevant.
BCB: Pointless Exercises in Devils Advocacy
Don't recall if they had the rule in place in 2009 or 2010
If you go, you’re guaranteed to see at least four players who are projected to be on the 25-man roster at the game. So, just pick the worst four players on the projected 25-man roster and that’s who you will see.
Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector
Circa 07/08, there was a bit of a Cactus League feud between Scioscia and Yost...
Regarding not bringing their best players on the road to play in Angels/Brewers matchups. No Vlad in Maryvale. No Fielder in Tempe. This obviously affected me, since the reason I go to AZ (March 17 this year!) is to see at least one matchup between the teams.
I’m guessing with RRR and Scioscia’s history together, all is forgiven.
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
Helena Brewers relocating?
Yesterday, the Casper Star-Tribune in Wyoming reported that an "unnamed Pioneer League" team will be visiting Casper in May to see if they want to re-locate to Casper in 2013. The Rockies’ team was there since 2001, but they grew tired of minimal fan support and moved the team to Grand Junction, CO for 2012. The location is vacant, but the team looking to move there is unknown.
Might it be the Helena Brewers? My first thought is that it would be a team from Casper’s division. But Ogden and Idaho Falls are doing very well with their stadiums and attendance, and Orem seems unlikely given its proximity to both of those two. If it’s a Northern Division team…well, the Brewers play in an 80 year old facility.
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 14, 2012 12:31 PM CST reply actions
Hopefully they rename the team
to “Casper, the Friendly Brewers.”
by mpbMKE on Feb 14, 2012 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
You're on
fire today.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
Would be a weird move, if so
If Casper has trouble drawing fans with a Rockies affiliate, I can’t imagine they’d draw with anyone else.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 14, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
I don’t see why any team would move there. the wind and weather are horrible, the facilities marginal and the fan support minimal. ultimately, I wouldn’t see a move happening, unless Helena shuts them out. But for now, A team IS kicking the tires on Casper. Odds might be highest that Helena is that team
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 14, 2012 2:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
actually, looks like Casper outdrew Helena by 10000 last year
more and more, looks like Helena is the mystery team to me.
"Some guy on the net thinks I suck, and he should know - he's got his own blog." - Nick Hornby
"Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est"
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Feb 14, 2012 3:00 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Haha Whiffleball Tony reply failing noob!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 14, 2012 2:39 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Also, apropos of nothing at all
If you’ve never seen the pop culture translator by the Canadian College of English Language, its definitely worth checking out. Potentially NSFW, but only due to some language.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
!!!!!!! BCB PSEUDOFANTASY LEAGUE !!!!!!!!
For anyone who signed up for the pseudofantasy league (or still wants to; anybody can join), please see the comment in the original Fanpost about the upcoming draft on Sunday, February 19.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!










































