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by Kyle Lobner on Feb 21, 2012 10:09 AM CST
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We're 45 days away from Opening Day and Carlos Gomez has joined the team in Maryvale a few days ahead of the deadline for position players to report to camp. John Steinmiller has a slide show from yesterday's first official workout, and Adam McCalvy filed his first "official" blog from spring training.
Brewer relievers are expected to throw their first bullpen session of the spring today. Yesterday Todd Rosiak talked to Jose Veras (behind the JS paywall) and Tom Haudricourt heard from Zach Braddock (likewise). Both are ready to take the mound. Adam McCalvy has a preview of the Brewer relievers.
Knock on wood, everyone in camp appears to be healthy at this point. Todd Rosiak says Cody Scarpetta, who is apparently having problems with his teeth, is the only pitcher currently limited.
Here's another reminder that this is a pretty big spring for Shaun Marcum: Aaron Wilberding says he's the Brewer pitcher with the most to prove in 2012 after his late season fade last year.
Meanwhile, we've got what appears to be bad news for anyone hoping for a Zack Greinke contract extension: Greinke told reporters yesterday he still doesn't have an agent, and "there's no reason to have one for the moment."
Another day, another reminder that we still don't know anything about Ryan Braun. Howie Magner has a suggestion that might speed things up a bit. Braun is expected to be in attendance for the team's first full squad workout on Saturday whether this mess has wrapped up or not.
The team made another series of minor transactions yesterday, signing Tim Dillard, Marco Estrada, Mike McClendon, Mark Rogers and Martin Maldonado to 2012 contracts. All five will likely receive at or near the league minimum for any time spent in the majors this season. Todd Rosiak notes that six Brewers remain unsigned: John Axford, Zach Braddock, Michael Fiers, Brandon Kintzler, Chris Narveson and Jonathan Lucroy.
Elsewhere in minor transactions, one more familiar face will be back in camp this spring: Kosuke Inaji, who spent 2011 with the team translating for Takashi Saito, will fill the same role for Norichika Aoki in 2012.
You can add "Las Vegas" to the list predictors expecting the Brewers to fall off dramatically this season: They've set the over/under on Brewer wins in 2012 at 81.5, which seems ridiculously low to me. On the other side of the coin, David Pinto of Baseball Musings is still treating them as contenders.
In the minors:
- BCB Community Prospect #3 Tyler Thornburg threw his first bullpen session in major league camp yesterday, pitching to Jonathan Lucroy with the coaching staff and "entire front office" in attendance.
- @Mass_Haas spotted a video interview with former undrafted free agent pitcher Connor Whalen, who is spending his first spring in Brewer minor league camp.
- The Janesville Gazette's Peace and Glove blog has a Twitter interview with Seth McClung.
- The Wisconsin Timber Rattlers know that the waiting (for Opening Day) is the hardest part.
Earlier this winter I mentioned that Carson Cistulli of FanGraphs was working on a crowdsourcing project to rate MLB TV broadcasters. This morning he has a reminder that you have until the end of this week to submit your thoughts on the Brewer TV team, or any others you see frequently.
Around baseball:
Athletics: Signed outfielder Manny Ramirez to a minor league deal.
Marlins: Reliever Juan Carlos Oviedo (formerly Leo Nunez) is still in the Dominican Republic working on visa issues and is not expected to be ready for Opening Day.
Red Sox: Pitcher Bobby Jenks won't be ready for Opening Day and may miss the first half of the season with a spinal issue.
Rockies: Extended manager Jim Tracy's contract indefinitely.
Ramirez will have to serve a 50 game suspension before he's eligible to play in the minors or majors for the A's.
Yesterday's scariest moment came in Braves camp, where starting pitcher Tommy Hanson had to leave workouts and go see a doctor after hitting his head in a car accident. He's missing workouts for the second straight day today, but is believed to only have a minor concussion and should be ready for Opening Day.
Meanwhile, my favorite story of the spring so far came in Mets camp yesterday, where pitcher Jonathan Niese reported to camp with a new nose. Former teammate Carlos Beltran is supposed to pick up the bill for it.
Today in former Brewers:
- Nearly a decade after leaving Milwaukee, 2000-02 Brewer Jamey Wright is still pitching in the majors. True Blue LA has a profile of Wright, who is entering his first season with the Dodgers.
- Yankees GM Brian Cashman used Bob Wickman as an example of a player who had a weight clause in his contract and didn't handle it well. He accuses Wickman of going to some relatively extreme measures to make weight and hampering his performance as a result.
- The Baseball Codes remembers the time Mike Cameron, with an opportunity to hit his fifth home run of the game, took a 3-0 fastball in the ninth inning of a 15-4 blowout.
This morning's edition of Today In Brewer History notes 1970-71 Brewer Ted Savage's 75th birthday. Savage was hit by pitches eleven times in his career, and Plunk Everyone notes that it's the fifth highest total for a player born on February 21.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm running out of guesses.
Drink up.
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If I was a betting man
I’d jump on that 81.5 over/under so fast. Either Vegas really knows something we don’t, or that’s pretty much stealing.
I mean, 84 or 85? That’d be a tough bet. But basically betting (at almost even odds) that the Brewers will have a winning season? Come on.
Lines are driven by national perception.
As we know here, the national perception of the team is down significantly.
Likewise.
I’m typically not a gambler, but this has me doing the math to figure out how much I’d have to put down to be able to hire out contractors to finish my basement with the winnings.
Now that's great tasting chicken!
by Kyle Lobner on Feb 21, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
It's basically a 50-50 bet against the Brewers completely collapsing.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 21, 2012 10:33 AM CST up reply actions
Calling it
Whoever wins the division – injuries will be the deciding factor.
Mark Attanasio is the best.
Yeah, and Arizona is 3 higher.
Apparently Prince Fielder accounts for 15 wins
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
I saw in yesterday's spring training photos
That Counsell was going through drills in uniform.
Brilliant plan by Melvin: All of Counsell’s gritty, veteran leadership, none of Counsell actually having to bat.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 21, 2012 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
It's a combination at the Brewers overacheiving and losing Fielder + Braun
I’m still having a hard time seeing how the Brewers are set at 81.5. If you figure in luck from last season (those 1 run victories), you could maybe drop the Brewers from 96 to 91. Figure some regression to make it 87-88. Lose Braun: 85-86, Lose Fielder: 83-84
Even stretching, I can’t get it below 83.5.
I'm definitely getting in on that.
Last year I had money on the Brewers winning the division, NLDS, NLCS, and World Series. The first payoff bought me NLDS tickets. That was nice.
Payoffs on an over/under are typically just 2:1 right?
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 21, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
If anyone has the patience for those of us who have never betted, could you walk us through it?
Where does one place a bet? Somewhere online, I assume.
Do you bet that the Brewers will win a specific number of games and only get paid if they win exactly that many? Never done any betting before, but this seems like a good one to go in on with a fairly low risk.
by kotsaythebuzzkill on Feb 21, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
I couldn't tell you the best site to place a bet
But as far as how it works, you’d basically be betting that the Brewers win 82 or more games next year. If they win any number at or over 82, you win. If they win any number at or under 81, you lose.
At the site Kyle linked to, the over is -115, which means that if you bet $115 on the Brewers winning more than 81.5 games, you’d win $100 if you won the bet.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 21, 2012 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
For reference sake
since
At the site Kyle linked to, the over is -115, which means that if you bet $115 on the Brewers winning more than 81.5 games, you’d win $100 if you won the bet.
could be a little misconstrued, If you bet $115, and you win, they will give you $215(your original bet, plus $100).
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 21, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
I use Bodog.eu
The downfall with them is you have to open an account with a minimum of $100. You can’t just go on and put in a $5 bet…But I use them for the ponies at least three times a year, so its alright.
They also have a bunch of fun stuff to bet on in baseball for each game. Like “will this pitcher get X strikeouts today?” or “Will this guy hit a home run today”, etc. Watch out though. Betting is highly addictive. I stay away from these things and only bet on the once a year type stuff.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
Ah. Yup. Sorry.
I forgot about that and my bookmark automatically forwards me over…and I haven’t use it for a few months now since everything I bet on had ended.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 21, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
No kidding
I’m not a betting man, but there’s not much that’s a bigger sure-thing.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 21, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
It's illegal to wager online from U.S. shores no matter which website you use.
There’s really no gray area anymore. This is illegal, period.
Also, most (or all?) sites do a credit check when you sign up
Call me crazy, but if I were building insurance models, I would knock your credit score down for having a gambling site checking your credit.
Uh...
Not that I’ve seen. Over the years I’ve had accounts at a handful of poker sites and at Sportsbook.com, and I’ve never had anything from them show up anywhere on any of my credit reports. They just need proof of identity for a payout, so you have to make sure you’re using a site that’s well-regarded and credible.
Which poker site was it that Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer, et al used as their personal piggy bank? Full Tilt?
yes, it was Full Tilt.
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Feb 21, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
not to mention Russ Hamilton and friends having a “God Mode” on Ultimate Bet and Absolute Poker that let them see the cards of everyone at the table
"I agree but dont agree"
by juggernaut400 on Feb 21, 2012 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
All of the horse wagering sites do credit checks
I guess the other guys don’t care. Strange that some would and others wouldn’t. Good to know.
Never had that happen.
They just charge your credit card. When your money is gone you can’t place any bets. They have no reason to dig into your credit. Credit checks cost money.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 21, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
do you hate gambling or something?
and its not the site that does the credit card check its the credit cards that put stops on the cards for gaming sites. I recently just put more money on my gambling account so when the brewers w/l is posted, i will be taking the over, that is if you all don’t bet a ton of money on it causing vegas to change it!
I think I'm just bitter I can't beat the system
I’ve tried. I’ve been a member of the Arlington Park Arlington Racing Club for the last three years. Gambling makes darn near anything more fun. I’m not particularly good at it, however.
Twinspires, the legal online operator of horse wagering in Illinois, does a credit check. I’m actually surprised the other gaming sites don’t.
I honestly don’t think it’s legal in the U.S. to bet on sports online.
CCCCCCOOOOOMBOBREEEAKERRRR!!!
Someone change their profile pic.
...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 21, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions
It's not. But I think the sites are located outside of the US, so there's not as much the US can do about it?
I could be wrong, though.
I think it's the transferring of money that's illegal
Wire fraud or something like that. I’m not sure they can legislate that you can’t use an internationally-based website, but they can prevent you from transferring money to and from said international website.
You can bet on Arlington Park on Bovada
No credit check needed! But of course, not really legal.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 21, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions
There wasn't a database record of everyone that consumed alcohol during prohibition, though.
by tcyoung on Feb 21, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You are correct sir.
Good thing those servers are out where rich people hide their money from the taxman.
So is speeding...
And actually, there is quite a bit of gray area still. Mostly because what the polititians say is not the same as what is being policed.
by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 21, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
Every online betting site has moved offshore
Bodog shut down their U.S. site entirely. I meant that the law isn’t grey. Enforcement may be, but the law on the books is pretty clear and the Internet sportsbooks seem to think the winds are blowing.
BODOG did not shut down there site
they were just the host for the betting service and the betting service decided to sign a contract with bovada gaming.
there are no sports betting lounges in wisconsin
you would have to know an underground bookie? You go to UW right?
BLASPHEMY!!
It is not illegal to bet on sports onine according to federal laws! It is individual states that have put restrictions on what people can and can’t do. Out wonderful, god for saken state of wisconsin has made it illegal to gamble online however there are still sites that will allow wisconsin residents to gamle online. Bovada is one of them. This is from a website that breaks down gambling laws:
there are no federal laws that make it illegal for you to gamble online. The federal online gambling laws have done nothing more than complicate financial transactions and make it illegal to operate a gambling business of your own
so there
I just got paid out by Sportsbook.com.
So they probably won’t steal your money. Also, I odn’t think there’s a minimum buy-in.
Were these online bets?
It is legal to make these types of bets in Nevada, so when I was in Las Vegas last winter I put a whopping $5 each on the Brewers to win the NL pennant and the World Series. Those were the only two types of bets I could find in the sportsbooks; I couldn’t find division or NLDS bets available. I’m scheduled to visit Las Vegas again at the end of March, and so I’ll probably try it again this year.
it has nothing to do with how many wins vegas thinks the brewers will have
it has everything to do with what number can vegas post that will have 50% of the people take the over and 50% take the under, thats how they make money because they pay out -110 on a standard bet that means (100 + (the odds given in this case -110))/100 giving you 90 cents on the dollar for your bet. that way vegas finishes in the money no matter what. as more and more people take the over the payout gets worse and worse. thats why when the packers played the superbowl against the steelers and conventional wisdom said the steelers would win but the packers have a super big following vegas took this biggest sports betting loss of all time, because you had people placing irrational bets and irrational won.
Right, I know that
I guess by “Vegas” I meant “everyone who bets on the Brewers” – I should have used “the betting public” instead.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 21, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions
I guess the main gist is
As tcyoung said above, the general perception of the Brewers is of a team that’s about to come crashing back to earth. That perception is based on ignorance. Smart people would take advantage of the public’s ignorance and bet the over.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 21, 2012 11:21 AM CST up reply actions
and sorry posted the wrong equation
you can just think of it as how much you have to wager to win x amount or (-100/x) if negative i was confusing something else in my explanation.
Devil's advocate...
Well if you started with 91 wins (2011 Pythagorean) and subtracted 6 wins from Prince leaving, you are already down to 85. Ramirez and a Braun suspension might be a wash. The bullpen has lost Saito and Hawkins (sub – 3.00 ERA in the second half) and the team may not be as healthy as the team that got by with six starters last year.
It would be interesting to see how far the line moves when Braun’s appeal is sorted out. I guess if he is suspended the line will stay about the same. If he wins, there may 3 or 4 wins added (Actual WAR + perception and intangibles)
Of course there's a risk they don't win 81
And I know you’re making a simple argument, but even if you do consider Fielder a 6 win player, they’re not going to get 0 from first base most likely. Yeah if Greinke and Gallardo go down I doubt they break .500 but that doesn’t explain how the Reds are at 87, either.
E: George 4 (5, throw, throw, throw, throw).
Other interesting bets
Braun is 40-1 to have most HR, Hart is 100-1
Brewers are 11-4 to win division, Cubs are 10-1, yet both are 17-1 to win the NL Pennant
Get a ife broseph
Here in the UK where gambling is much more prevalent
You can check out this site which give the odds on baseball from about 20 different bookmakers.
The best price I can get on the Brewers winning the NL is 20/1. Only 2 have priced up the individual divisions so far, I suppose it will depend on demand.
However there is no over/under bets, it is not a type of bet that is all that common over here.
These are the O/U lines I found:
For the NL Central, anyhow.
Cinci 86.5
Milwaukee 83.5
StL 83
Cubs 74.5
Pitt 73
Houston 64
In other words, bunched at the top, and everyone else sucks.
I'm STRONGLY considering putting money on that.
I mean, come on.
Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.
Living in the Chicago area
It’s really weird seeing all the billboards that just went up with Dale Sveum on them. It’s also funny how the billboards don’t have a name on them and I hear people say “Who is that?”
"It's the Chicago Cubs."
That’s how you should but-in and respond.
by tcyoung on Feb 21, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Those are funny, had same reaction
Was also trying to think of who else they could put on them and couldn’t come up with anything. Its odd to have the new manager, who isn’t a big name at all as the face of the team.
They can’t put up anyone who might get traded, and Starlin Castro a little risky in light of the allegations from a couple months ago.
Get a ife broseph
Theo Epstein
would probably be the best bet.
by jcollins205 on Feb 21, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Think they probably want someone in a Cubs uniform
But I’m probably over-thinking it.
Get a ife broseph
Wait, you mean they actually have to field a team of players in uniform?
That front-office stuff is harder than I thought!
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
Sammy Sosa?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 21, 2012 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Baseball America Top 100 Prospects released today
3 Brewers on the List:
Peralta (56)
Jungmann (70)
Bradley (71)
Pretty shocked about the last two on there. There are a ton of 2011 draftees on the list, which is pretty rare.
Uh oh.
Happy learned how to draft pitchers.
I'm on a raptor.
by Rubie Q on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 16 recs
Wouldnt go that far yet
Mark Rogers was at one time a top 100 prospect, as was Jeremy Jeffress.
I’m just surprised that those two guys were top 100 without any professional experience. I felt that they would both be worthy of the ranking after a year of minor league ball if all went well.
Jeffress help land Greinke
"You are only a success at the moment that you do a successful act"
-Tex Winter
Corey?
...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!
by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 21, 2012 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
National analysts don't hate the Brewers like you do?
"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa
Considering the only thing wrong with Jeffress is that he likes weed,
I don’t see the issue there. Get someone to teach him how to avoid getting caught with it, or God forbid give it up until he’s done playing, and he’s fine.
Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.
Well the weed and his walk rates.
Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.
This is my favorite comment ever.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
I'm not shocked that you're shocked
I am a little surprised though…too bad SRB didn’t take me up on my bet
Get a ife broseph
I specifically didn't because these lists are such nonsense
Jungmann is still better than Peralta.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
I've seen Peralta pitch, but that's irrelevant
Because this is not a science and NOBODY on the Internet is a pro scout. LITERALLY NOBODY.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
Of course not
Just wondering where you got your opinions from. I have no idea if Peralta is better than Jungmann.
Watching is irrelevant so assuming you’re just looking at college stats and competition and referencing that against AA and AAA stats and competition?
Get a ife broseph
Yeah, basically, but it's just an arbitrary opinion
I think Jungmann is underrated because he didn’t have huge strikeout numbers, but I think that’s because he’s a smart pitcher and didn’t need to in college.
In terms of pure stuff, Jungmann was supposed to be in the mix for #1 overall in 2011, so I don’t see how his stuff would have changed. If he had had higher K/9 his Junior season, he probably would have gone much higher.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
How do you know about the quality of his pure stuff though?
And what makes you think he’s a smart pitcher?
Get a ife broseph
If sources had him in the mix for #1 in the 2011 Draft (in late-2010/early-2011), I assume it was because of his raw potential. But apparently he didn’t take the step forward in terms of results (i.e. K/9); I doubt he lost any talent.
He’s a smart pitcher because of his ridiculous success in college and because that’s what every write-up on him has said. If you have a <1.00 ERA do you really need to tweak your strategy just to get more K? ERA/W are bad stats, but I don’t think they’re totally meaningless at the extremes.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
I guess my point is...who are the "sources"?
Because this is not a science and NOBODY on the Internet is a pro scout. LITERALLY NOBODY
Then say you like Jungmann better because of the internet reports and internet sources. What gives?
Get a ife broseph
Notice the "arbitrary opinion" part?
Nobody on the internet knows what they’re talking about, sorry.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
The link to the BA Top 100 you provided is interesting
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Feb 21, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Busy day shopping for Irish-Catholic/Protestant literature on Amazon?
Get a ife broseph
by Supertramp on Feb 21, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
Don't judge
how else is a father to let his daughter know about the dangers of mixed marriage?
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 21, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Wow.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 21, 2012 6:23 PM CST up reply actions
Just curious
Does the “wow” come from the perception of the term “mixed marriage” as it applies to race?
If so, I dont think that was his point, as the mistakenly posted link relates to Catholic/Protestant issue in Ireland. And in this particular case, the book listed in the link tells the story about how the “persecuted” class in Ireland turned the tables.
Yeah I was a little confused too.
The book’s subtitle mentions ‘mixed marriage’, with respect to Catholic/Protestants in Ireland.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 22, 2012 9:07 AM CST up reply actions
Nope.
His comment alone, in response to Supertramp’s comment, made it pretty clear that his tongue in cheek use of the phrase “mixed marriage” didn’t have anything to do with ethnicity (I’m not using the word race, in spite of its popular usage, because the concept that there are different races of human beings is complete bullshit genetically speaking.), but rather a reference to the nearly as ridiculous and dated concept that a protestant marrying a catholic is a mixed marriage, which is so ridiculous that it was humorous in its own right.
I also clicked the link before I typed “wow”, which would have removed any doubt (if I’d had any) that this was a reference to anything to do with ethnicity.
But mostly the “wow” was in reference to my surprise at finding catholic/protestant trash talk (even if it was intended to be ironic) on a BCB comment thread.
As usual, I was less confused that you presumed.
"fortunate, but also lucky"
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 22, 2012 5:55 PM CST up reply actions
Damn!
backtocali came this close to linking to his OkCupid profile.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
by SRB on Feb 21, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Here comes the putter throw.
That dog just won't hunt.
by Bush League All Star on Feb 21, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Jonah Keri's 2012 Brewers preview
Is up at Grantland. He picked the Brewers to make the World Series last year, and he still likes them.
He loves the rotation in particular – says the pitching staff “could be one of the best in the game”:
In the 30th anniversary of Harvey’s Wallbangers, pitching and defense just might nudge the Brewers back to the postseason. …
Between Greinke, the steady and underrated Gallardo and effective no. 3 and 4 men in Marcum and Wolf (or vice versa), the Brewers can hang with any rotation short of Philly’s and maybe San Francisco’s.
He should really change his first 'If everything breaks right' pick
to Braun is not suspended and repeats his MVP performance.
"...just throw that pill over the plate and I'll make it happen." - Tony Plush
by thefreewheelin76 on Feb 21, 2012 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
I've always liked Keri
He’s been banging the “Small-market teams aren’t really at a disadvantage” drum a lot recently, which is annoying, but he’s always struck me as a mensch. I especially like that he actually seems to find all the teams outside of New York/Boston/Philadelphia interesting, unlike a certain Grantland founder.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 21, 2012 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
Whenever I see mensch
I think “just a dude”, since it literally translates as ‘person’ or ‘human being’ in German. That’s what I get for taking a language I was interested in and not the one that would have been useful in life.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 21, 2012 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
Jedermann is a great word though.
Applying pop culture to Brewers discussions since 2009, earning the nickname of "Our Little Abed".
You can't "vice versa" Shaun Marcum and Randy Wolf
Still, good to hear he is aware of Brewers players not named Braun or Fielder.
Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!
Non-Brewer Related Article
A article on the making of the episode of “Homer At The Bat.” I know there are plenty of Simpsons fans and it’s really neat to see baseball and The Simpsons cross paths.
Lose those sideburns!
"The way to catch a knuckleball is to wait until it stops rolling and then pick it up." ~Bob Uecker
Who are the Simpsons?
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by Yar Nivek on Feb 21, 2012 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I drove out to Maryvale today
Yo and Marcum were throwing Bullpens today. Parra and wolf signed autographs and so Did Bradley but I think I’m the only one here who knew who he was. I think they’re gonna let us in to the reserved area today to watch. I’ll try to snap some pics.
by jmag043 on Feb 21, 2012 12:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
First couple pics
are Tim Dillard throwing to Martin Maldonado and Jose Veras throwing to Lucroy.
Last pic was just Doug Melvin and a few of the assistants and trainers chatting.
The Bush in the last pic
Is actually a considered a better shortstop than Yuni.
REWIND YOURSELF!
by drezdn on Feb 21, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
It doesn't let anything roll between it's branches.
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by Yar Nivek on Feb 21, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention the fact that it has better range.
Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.
by Tepo6688 on Feb 21, 2012 5:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The pictures are worth a rec.
However, I cannot rec it because you forgot a title. I can’t encourage that.
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Appreciate it
Mobile image uploading on the iPhone is fun enough as it is
by jmag043 on Feb 21, 2012 6:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
I understand
It’s just annoying to have to scroll past the pictures constantly. In a post like this one, it’s not a big deal, but once the season gets going….ouch.
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Anyone else think
That Gamel needs to get his butt in early and show some extra effort?
Mark Attanasio is the best.
And says he's lost 25 pounds since last year
According to McCalvy.
by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 21, 2012 1:34 PM CST up reply actions
Gamel is there and he said he is in the BSOHL
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Feb 21, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
I read that
and loved how you put it…“goaded into saying he was in the BSOHL” I believe. I really want Gamel to succeed but I fear that he may be a tad on the dim side.
by NatronJ on Feb 21, 2012 7:59 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
...
Because it takes brains to be a big leaguer.? If he can hit a baseball, I don’t care if he can’t spell his own name. Actually, he can’t spell his own name, he’s missing a “t.”
by mpbMKE on Feb 21, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not brains persay
but something…instinct maybe, the wherewithal to make an adjustment during an at bat, or possibly the ability to not come off as a jackass in interviews? I just haven’t seen it yet and hope to this year.
by NatronJ on Feb 21, 2012 8:54 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
By the way
it’s “per se” not “persay” I was making that mistake for years and felt pretty stupid when someone pointed it out to me as I consider myself an intelligent person.
He is there
and BSoHL
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 21, 2012 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
My guesses
Hold the Ball — Hide the Ball
Quit Making Faces At the Plate
See the Look on the Plate’s Face And Think Positive Thoughts About Your Looks
by tcyoung on Feb 21, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Try the Cheese Plate
I'm on a raptor.
by Rubie Q on Feb 21, 2012 1:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
The first letter is Q
I think it says “Queso on the plate”
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The second line clearly starts with a "Q"
So it’s probably “Queso Plate.”
Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.
Hold the Ball – Hide the ball
Quit Practising Karate
See The Ball – Get Your Looks
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by Yar Nivek on Feb 21, 2012 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
On careful consideration, the only thing that makes sense for the middle line is
Quick to the Plate
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When did DM sign the White Rabbit?
And can he play shortstop?
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have we ruled out the banner including the text "Don't Play Pick Up Basketball"?
I am too drunk to taste this chicken.
by ThroughBeingCool on Feb 21, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Also
today is a woot-off day.
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
That's what I said when I heard, too!
"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."
~Doug Melvin
"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."
~RRR
by Charlie Marlow on Feb 21, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Melvin talked to TH about Greinke.
He’s got a blog post up. Still sounds optimistic about a deal, but he has to talk to MA about the budget parameters before they start any real negotiations. He’s expecting to negotiate directly with Zack until things get serious.
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| W | L | PCT | GB | STRK | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Cincinnati
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27 | 20 | .574 | 0 | Won 2 |
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St. Louis
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26 | 22 | .541 | 1.5 | Won 1 |
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Pittsburgh
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23 | 24 | .489 | 4 | Won 3 |
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Houston
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22 | 25 | .468 | 5 | Lost 2 |
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Milwaukee
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19 | 28 | .404 | 8 | Lost 2 |
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Chicago
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15 | 32 | .319 | 12 | Lost 12 |
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