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Tyler Thornburg, who also pitched in the 2011 MLB Futures Game, will be joining the Brewers in big league camp this spring.

Some things to read while expanding your vocabulary.

We're 11 days from pitchers and catchers reporting to spring training, and one more Brewer minor leaguer received a late camp invitation yesterday: BCB Community Prospect #3 Tyler Thornburg will be in big league camp for the first time, wearing #70. Thornburg was a third round pick in 2010 and posted a 2.57 ERA over 156.2 innings between Wisconsin and Brevard County last season, striking out 10.5 batters per nine. He also appeared in three games in the Arizona Fall League.

After about a week of listening to gloom and doom from baseball's various national analysts, David Schoenfield of ESPN has turned the tide the other way a bit: He previewed the NL Central position-by-position and arrived with the Brewers as the best of its six teams. If you like your previews with less analysis and more haiku, Babes Love Baseball has exactly what you're looking for.

Zack Greinke (as #2 starter) was one of several Brewer pitchers to come up #1 in Schoenfield's position rankings. At Disciples of Uecker, Jack Moore compares the players the Brewers gave up to acquire Greinke to the hauls of talent the Cubs and Reds had to give up for Matt Garza and Mat Latos.

We still don't know the outcome of Ryan Braun's appeal, but we do know he'll be on the cover of the 2012 media guide along with Carlos Gomez and Nyjer Morgan. Apparently someone in the front office learned to use Photoshop this winter.

Speaking of Braun, his potential meeting with 2011 NY Cy Young Award winner Clayton Kershaw and MVP runner-up Matt Kemp when the Brewers host the Dodgers on April 17 is one of John Schlegel of MLB.com's most intriguing moments of early 2012.

In the minors:

  • Seedlings To Stars created an All-Prospect Team for the Brewers, and the picture isn't as grim as you'd expect.
  • Three Brewer batters combined to go 0-for-9 last night, but at least Sergio Miranda walked twice in Puerto Rico's 4-3 win over Mexico. You can read about that and more in today's Winter League Notes.
  • The Brewer Nation's "Brewers By the (Jersey) Numbers" series continues with a profile of Wily Peralta.
  • The Wisconsin Timber Rattlers borrowed a speech from "Miracle" for their latest video to promote their Opening Day bobbleheads.

As of this writing Zelous Wheeler has a ten vote lead on Nick Bucci and Jimmy Nelson for the #15 spot in our Community Prospect Rankings. Voting will remain open until 1 today, and the voting for the #16 spot will begin at 2.

Around baseball:

Astros: Signed outfielder Justin Ruggiano to a minor league deal.
Cardinals: Signed infielder Alex Cora to a minor league deal.
Cubs: Claimed infielder Adrian Cardenas off waivers from the Athletics and designated infielder Blake DeWitt for assignment.
Dodgers: Designated infielder Russ Mitchell for assignment.
Mariners: Signed pitchers Hong-Chih Kuo and Shawn Camp to one year deals and designated catcher Chris Gimenez and outfielder Mike Wilson for assignment.
Nationals: Signed third baseman Mark Teahen to a minor league deal.
Rangers: Signed first baseman/outfielder Conor Jackson and pitcher Joe Beimel to minor league deals.

In former Brewers:

This morning's edition of Today In Brewer History remembers Jeff Cirillo's 2005 return to Milwaukee as a free agent. Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times notes that it's also been 4000 days since Devon White was traded to the Brewers and 20,000 days since Hank Aaron's worst game as a major leaguer.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm working on my flexibility.

Drink up.

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A few things:

• Mark Kotsay has a job!? Of course it’s with the Padres. Of course.
• I’m liking that Thornburg wears New Balance, it indicates to me a preference of functionality over style. Dude’s head is in the right place.
• The media guide looks terrible. It doesn’t make any sense, and IMO it’s just weird.

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

Media Guide

Somebody needs to learn the “soften edges” tool.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't know...

Given how brightly, but differently, lit the players are compared to the stadium, I think I would have tried to washout the color of Miller Park a bit, just to reduce that harsh break, which can be seen most prevalently around Gomez’s head. A little blur, no more than a few pixels, around the edges of the edges of the cutout could have gone a long way, as well.

But I only do this stuff for fun.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I was going to mention the lighting/(maybe?)filter difference between foreground/background...

Maybe it’s a statement- like a retro look.
Ha maybe they didn’t have enough money to hire someone to do it after they expanded payroll.

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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 12:03 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't think it was that they didn't have anyone do it
A very special thanks to Brewers Senior Graphic Designer Jeff Harding for his help with the cover.

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 12:09 PM CST up reply actions  

"Senior Graphic Designer", eh?

That guy probably did the ‘94-’99 logo, too.

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Doubtful

The guy looks like he’s only in his 20s or early 30s

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

How'd you find a picture?

Anyways it was just my little joke, stemming from the fact that most people don’t like that logo.

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, he definitely looks sketchy back there, hah.

Just kidding. This brings up a great opportunity, though, for me to say that I think that the Brewers’ marketing team does a great job.

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: All-prospect team

The pitching looks legitimately decent. The hitting looks terrible, though. If Arcia does pan out like I think he will, then that will help.

The next two drafts need to focus hard on hitting.

by cwolf20 on Feb 7, 2012 9:42 AM CST reply actions  

Dave Schoenfield has the Brewers primarily because of their starting rotation

which is what I’ve thought all along. The Brewers probably have the most stable rotation along with some depth in their 6th starter. I don’t understand how can anyone ignore a team that has the best pitching in the division. They’re going to have a really difficult time generating runs without Braun for 50 games, but they have three starters and a bullpen that have the ability to win a game with no more than 3 runs of support. 3 runs could be a challenge for a Braun-less lineup, but I’m sure Roenicke will find a way to bunt his team to 3 runs when they need it.

Dave S. links to a blurb by Dave Cameron that suggests the Brewers just move Ramirez to 1B and use Green at 3B. Given that Ramirez has only ever played at 3B, I’m not sure how he makes that transition. Given Gamel’s consistent success at AAA, don’t they have to give him a chance at 1B before they give Green 3B? There’s every chance Gamel develops into a left-handed Corey Hart. I just can’t take Green of Gamel right now.

by ecocd on Feb 7, 2012 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

Agree

I was ok with his analysis. A 100% healthy Wainwright gives the Cards a real boost, but his return and the managerial and coaching changes leave question marks. The Reds could be good but there’s a lot of inconsistency in that staff. I’m surprised Arroyo has lasted this long.

From top to bottom the Brewers still have as good of pitching as anyone else so I don’t understand how any objective analysis can dismiss them at this point.

And I agree about Ramirez and Gamel. Let’s just give Gamel a shot already. Call the Ramirez to 1st idea Plan B.

by Tristram28 on Feb 7, 2012 10:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Plan B,

I think, is Corey Hart moving to 1B and rotating Aoki, Gomez, and Morgan in CF/RF.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

And I think that's the correct decision.

3B is a really tough position to fill right now. If you’ve got a guy who can play there passably, you should keep him there.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yup.

If we’re looking at Green/Ramirez, I’d rather just teach Green 1B.

by tcyoung on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah you're right

Good catch. Although we may be talking about two separate but related problems:

1. Gamel is a disaster and must be replaced
2. A-ram’s defense drops off so far that he is too much of a liability at third.

I’ll be surprised if either one of these things comes to be though.

by Tristram28 on Feb 7, 2012 12:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

From the enemy perspective, I have to say I agree with this.

And that this is what I’m afraid of. That rotation has the ability to carry you guys through a couple lean months of offense, if a few guys are hot at once. And with Braun back in the lineup any difference between the teams (standard health caveats, etc.) pretty well disappears.

by Pegasus on Feb 7, 2012 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds about right.

Personally, I’m already getting myself adjusted to an inevitable Carpenter injury. He’s overdue for his arm to fall off again.

by Pegasus on Feb 7, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Beltran too

But you still have Allen Craig as insurance.

by cwolf20 on Feb 7, 2012 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh, I hear you.

I mean, I’m definitely one of those who will say “aww, that’s a shame, heck of a player” while thinking “FINALLY!”

by Pegasus on Feb 7, 2012 3:11 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Plus Furcal

And regression from Berkman

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

This is, in fact, what happened during the Brewers torrid post-ASB streak

Rickie Weeks went down with injury which should’ve been a huge blow to the team. Suddenly, the pitchers were collectively unhittable both rotation and bullpen. On offense, Yuniesky Betancourt, of all people, got red hot at the plate to help replace the production lost from Rickie Weeks. What should’ve been a tough time for the team ended up with one of the best stretches in all of baseball.

On the flipside, when Corey Hart started the season on the DL, the Brewers offense floundered as nobody stepped up offensively to help out and Gallardo had a string of terrible starts.

by ecocd on Feb 7, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

True

But that’s again a case of unexpectedly good performance from a replacement player.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions  

True. It was definitely unexpected.

I just want to make the point that Greinke’s spot in the rotation was not a direct cause for any sort of slowish start.

by tcyoung on Feb 7, 2012 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Fair.

Shaun Marcum stepping up would also serve that point.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 4:58 PM CST up reply actions  

We signed Corey Patterson!!!!

did anyone else see this great news? it’s about a week old, but I don’t see any mention of it on the front page!!!

http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120130&content_id=26516908&vkey=news_mil&c_id=mil

by PagsBrewCrew on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 AM CST reply actions  

Flagged

for bad memories

by Tristram28 on Feb 7, 2012 10:30 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

See:

here

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

You know,

I was just saying to myself, “If there’s one thing the Brewers need more of, it’s outfielders.”

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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

"Outfielders with no valuable skills besides grit."

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Macha liked him. Ergo, yes.

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Did he?

Because he only started 2 games.

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Would Macha give two starts to a guy who didn't have grit?

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't recall what happened with him under Macha.

But he did go learn grit over the winter in his visit to Pete Rose.

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry if I missed it.

I’ve been preoccupied with the birth of my daughter. Has anyone else seen that two brewer minor leaguers that tested at the same time as Braun, also tested positive for elevated testosterone levels?

by Mr. McGehee on Feb 7, 2012 10:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Yeah, old news.

I’m curious as to what you think the significance of it is.

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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

2 Shoes and I had a discussion about it.

link

Elevated levels does not equate to a failed test.

I never heard that they were minor leaguers. Do you have a link?

Supposedly, according to Patrick’s source, this may have been part of Braun’s appeal, arguing that this is evidence that the test could have been flawed.

by tcyoung on Feb 7, 2012 11:00 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll grab the link when I get home.

I do think some questions need to be answered.

1. Are Brewers trainers mistakingly used banned or unknown supplements?

2. Are the tests bad or incorrectly run?

3. What do these players share in common?

I think it either shows that Braun is innocent or the Brewers trainers are guilty of something.

by Mr. McGehee on Feb 7, 2012 11:38 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Gotcha

I thought the sample was only tested in one lab… not twice in two different labs and both got the same results.

Granted, it’s still possible that all the samples were tainted.

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, the first test is just a quick, test to determine how high the ratio is.

If the ratio is higher than 4:1, which really isn’t that high, it gets sent to the olympic lab to run amore accurate test which determines if the elevated level of testosterone is naturally occuring or not.

by tcyoung on Feb 7, 2012 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Re: Disciples of Uecker article

I’m not sold on his analysis of Lorenzo Cain. The guy has posted .800-.900 OPS each of the last three seasons in the minors, something Gomez never did. He also posted a .743 OPS with the Brewers in that short stint two years ago.

I think discounting him as a valuable trade piece is disingenuous.

by cwolf20 on Feb 7, 2012 10:48 AM CST reply actions  

agree

while i generally like jack moore’s writing, this one seemed to have too much hindsight in it. escobar was off top prospect status (#12 BA) and had a small sampling of ABs in the majors… enough to make him less shiny, but still a good prospect (esp for someone who’s more defensive oriented).

cain hit okay in the minors and then had a good stint in the majors. backtocali always thought of him as a corner outfielder (as did others, but he was pretty vocal about it), but he looked like he could play center. this further muddies the comparison with gomez.

odorizzi had a season that got him ranked #69ish (BA), so he was well regarded at the time.

i dunno. if you want to compare anyone to gomez, compare escobar and then go back to the santana trade.

by Capt Science on Feb 7, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

I think the point was hindsight, yes?

And with that as our guide, it doesn’t look like Escobar is developing the way he was expected to. Odorizzi is a bigger question mark than he was a year ago, and Cain wasn’t good enough to get a significant look on a bad team. Maybe the guys in the Garza and Latos trades don’t pan out either, and we can later apply further hindsight, but as of right now, I don’t really think he’s off-target.

I think we discussed this trade’s present-day value at the time it was made exhaustively enough, so I think it’s valuable to analyze the aftermath.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Cain

I disagree that he wasn’t good enough to get a significant look from the Royals. All three OFs for the Royals last season had very good seasons, so there wasn’t a reason for them to use Cain.

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Was just looking that up

They signed Melky Cabrera 10 days before the Greinke trade

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Feb 7, 2012 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Plus

Francoeur was signed 11 days before the trade.

With Cabrera no longer in KC, I think they have Cain slotted to start in CF next season.

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think having Cain was the reason they traded Melky

I don’t think Cain will be a star or elite type guy, but is definitely good enough to be a starter on a playoff team or 4th OF at worst.

Not sure why Jack is calling the bat terrible, wish he would have explained his reasoning.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Feb 7, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

I think the only real knock on Cain is that he’s not patient at the plate, but I don’t think a guy who had a .877 OPS in his first full season in Triple-A last year has a terrible bat.

by sjlee on Feb 7, 2012 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Everyone who rooted for the Royals wanted Cain and not Cabrera

Seriously. It just happened that Cabrera had the best season of his life.

by cwolf20 on Feb 7, 2012 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure...

But Cain has spent his age 21-25 seasons struggling to get through the minors, while Gomez was a full- or part-time major leaguer.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 11:24 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Injuries killed his age 21-25

Cain, when healthy, has always been productive.

by cwolf20 on Feb 7, 2012 12:19 PM CST up reply actions  

He also seems to discount the value of Odirizzi and Escobar

The article itself is a bit misleading when he states that they wont have any regrets about dealing for Greinke, when the reality should be that without a World Series appearance, at the very least while Greinke is her, will be a failure when looked at in the grand plan that went on during last years off season to “go all in”.

He also negelects to mention the importance of Escobars value as a “prospect” the season before.

In the grand scheme of things, the Cubs gave up a couple of top prospects, only one of which is still regarded as so, for 2 years of Garza at much less of a cost than what Greinke is to the Brewers.

Even with an extended Greinke at a big bagful of money, I’m pretty sure the Brewers will be partially regretting the deal in 2014 when the Royals are contenders with a .270 hitting gold glove caliber shortstop, a solid #3 starter in Odirizzi and a solid CF in Lorenzo Cain, all the while paying those 3 players a combined $5 million.

by backtocali on Feb 7, 2012 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Whether it is a failure or not is up to individual fans

Every year in which you don’t win the WS is ultimately a failure.

Some people will be happy with an above .500 record, some need a playoff appearance, some need a WS appearance, some need a Championship, some don’t care at all.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Feb 7, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Sigh

I actually think Odirizzi’s ceiling is that of a #2 starter. And was never really high on Cain as a CF, but that of a second division type of RF. But I slowly came around to realize that even as an average defender for him in CF, his offensive numbers would make him at least average att eh position.

by backtocali on Feb 7, 2012 1:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok

“Escobar has the glove, but is still a sub-.300 OBP guy. Odorizzi has #2 ceiling potential, but Melvin sucks at developing pitchers and Cain is OK but just average.”

Am I pretty close?

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Feb 7, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Cain is a fantastic defender in CF

So I have no idea where you’re getting “he’s a RF” thing or “even as an average defender”.

by cwolf20 on Feb 7, 2012 2:40 PM CST up reply actions  

He has average range for a CF, and an arm that is more suited for RF

The problem with making him a full time RF is that he doesnt have enough power to justify the full time job as a RF.

An average defender in CF with an average bat is a very good thing to have for any team, which Cain gives you.

by backtocali on Feb 7, 2012 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I think if the Brewers extend Greinke

they are no doubt the “winners” in this deal.
Regardless, I’ll be happy with the trade.

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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I think its more than that

The guy is more valuable than Jered Weaver and he signed for 5/85, and in FA I think he could get as much as 5/115.

by backtocali on Feb 7, 2012 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I question

that he’s more valuable than Weaver and always figured he’d prefer to avoid a large media market. I’d say the two are pretty comparable but the unpredictable nature of Grienke’s social anxiety disorder is the reason I’d value Weaver slightly more…

by NatronJ on Feb 7, 2012 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with "More valuable than Jered Weaver"

If you’re strictly talking cumulative WAR, then yes. But that’s what a single 9+ WAR season will do. And how often do those occur? Take out the 2009 season for both of them, and Weaver has more cumulative WAR for 2008 + 2010 + 2011.

I agree that they’re good comps. I’d take either one. (And actually, I get to cheer for both!)

Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.

by Brew Angel on Feb 7, 2012 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Escobar will never hit .270.

Maybe in his best season, but it will be an outlier. Come back to me in 5 years, we’ll revisit this discussion.

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

"the reality" meaning your opinion.

Again. I’m sure you believe it, but like most of us, not everything you believe is the truth.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 7, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow.

Brett Lawrie put up 2.7 WAR in only 171 PAs? That’s a breakneck pace.

by Archibaldcrane on Feb 7, 2012 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Totally sustainable

Remove Brewers jersey, become amazing.

by cwolf20 on Feb 7, 2012 1:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Gomez =Escobar

He just plays a different position.

Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!

by SRB on Feb 7, 2012 6:40 PM CST up reply actions  

No prospect poll today?

Or has it just been delayed?

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by -JP- on Feb 7, 2012 2:11 PM CST reply actions  

So, the nine players that didn't win yesterday's poll...

They are not considered prospects anymore?

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by -JP- on Feb 7, 2012 2:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats right

they're just farm fodder

by Fiesta on Feb 7, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I see your sarcasm detector is still broken.

Don’t worry, it was pointless, anyways.
Although, maybe it was a subconscious assessment of the current state of the Brewers’ farm system.

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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

It's up now.

The site is unresponsive for some reason and I’m in a dozen places at once today.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Feb 7, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Counsell?

"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa

by mnbrewer on Feb 7, 2012 3:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Pujols

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Feb 7, 2012 5:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Barf

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by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 7, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I figured out how fast he was going.

But now I don’t know where he is.

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

This makes me think about how we should view each Brewers game this season.

Consider Schrodinger’s Cat. He is placed in a closed box with a vial of poison set to open on a timer. After a while, we can consider the cat both dead and alive. It is only by opening the box that we find out if the cat is dead or alive.

Now, apply that to a Brewers game. Each game is inside a box with a vial of poison. We don’t know if the poison will be released during the game and can’t know unless we open the box. So, while the box is closed, the game is both good and bad. It is only by opening the box and seeing the results for ourselves that we know what happened.

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by -JP- on Feb 7, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I know you can't trust Frank Catalanatto, but this is totally uncalled for.

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Sarcasm?

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by -JP- on Feb 7, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Mitch Stetter taught us that when you say cat, you really mean Catalanatto.

So putting him in a box with poison just seems cruel.

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 7, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Would referring to it as "Schrodinger's Kitty" be better?

No, wait, that doesn’t sound better.

How about I just make it something everyone will hate. Let’s go with “Schrodinger’s Cubs”.

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by -JP- on Feb 7, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

How about Schrodinger's P... Never mind

"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa

by mnbrewer on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Schrodinger's Cubs?

That doesn’t work. They weren’t alive when they went into the box.

Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.

by Tepo6688 on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Then we modify it slightly.

They’re put into the box with a bottle of reviving potion, that just has to touch the Cubs in any way to revive them. The bottle will break open on a timer, so after a while, the Cubs can be considered both alive and dead.

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by -JP- on Feb 8, 2012 1:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Is this box air tight?

Because if it isn’t, there comes a point when you don’t have to look in the box to know the cat is dead.

by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 7, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions  

...

Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.

by Tepo6688 on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Ah, the career arc of players

From the minors they came, and to the minors they return. That is just the way of things in baseball.

Bill Hall will experience the end of that arc in the Yankees minor league system.

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by -JP- on Feb 7, 2012 3:02 PM CST reply actions  

Bill Hall is a Yankee

So he’s got that going for him.

REWIND YOURSELF!

by drezdn on Feb 7, 2012 4:18 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

No, he's a Yankee.

A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankee.

(He does have an opt-out if he’s not on the MLB roster on April 4th.)

Contributor on Brew Crew Ball, Commissioner of Prognostikeggers, Owner of a broken sarcasm detector

by -JP- on Feb 7, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Well then.

Ahem.

(Kidding!)

(And NSFW, just in case.)

by mpbMKE on Feb 7, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I lol'd.

But I have an angry sense of humor, so you shouldn’t find my amusement encouraging.

"fortunate, but also lucky"

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Feb 7, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Which is nice

"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa

by mnbrewer on Feb 7, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

awesome

It’s nice to see the Brewers finally having a good rotation.

by Brew_Crew on Feb 7, 2012 10:40 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions  

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