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Some things to read while reverse engineering.

We're nine days away from pitchers and catchers reporting to spring training, and we've officially reached Truck Day: Bernie Brewer has a picture of the Racing Sausages being loaded onto the truck headed for Maryvale, which Howie Magner says hit the road at 8:15 this morning.

Meanwhile, the Brewers unveiled their spring training broadcast schedule yesterday, featuring six televised games and 14 broadcasts on WTMJ (FanShot). As has been the case for a couple of years now, we'll have coverage via TV, radio or internet stream for nearly every spring game.

This could be a story to watch over the next few days: Doug Melvin told MLB Network Radio that he's had discussions with Zack Greinke about possibly working out a long term deal to remain in Milwaukee. Greinke is currently serving as his own agent, so if there's a deal to be made it'd probably need to be done before he reports to spring training. (h/t MLBTR)

Another day, another reminder that we still don't know what's happening regarding Ryan Braun. Miller Park Drunk has a two part post considering the potential reactions if Braun is found guilty or innocent. In theory we're supposed to have a final decision by Monday, but who knows if that's actually going to happen.

If Braun is suspended for Opening Day, then it could leave a roster spot open for someone like Brooks Conrad. Jack Moore of Disciples of Uecker makes the case for Conrad as a potential impact player this season.

Got some cash burning a hole in your pocket this spring? Ron Roenicke Stole My Baseball has a look at various Baseball Reference pages available from sponsorship, ranging from Ryan Braun ($705) to Taylor Green ($50). RRSMB, by the way, is now the proud sponsor of Russell Branyan. If you still have money to spend but are looking for a more tangible investment, Baseball Nation found a Seattle Pilots ceramic coin bank on Ebay.

Of course, you should probably save some of your money for actual Brewer tickets. Single game tickets will go on sale February 25.

The Opening Day bullpen doesn't appear to have a spot for Mike McClendon at this point, but anything could happen. The Brewer Nation has a look at McClendon as part of their "Brewers By the (Jersey) Numbers" series.

In the minors:

  • We're coming down to the wire in the voting for the 17th and final spot in our Community Prospect Rankings: As of this writing Hunter Morris leads D' Vontrey Richardson by one vote and Jimmy Nelson by two. You have until 1 pm today to help us decide this.
  • It's still much too early to seriously think about things like this, but Minor League Rundown has the Brewers drafting California high school third baseman/pitcher Rio Ruiz and TCU catcher Josh Elander with the 27th and 28th overall picks in their 2012 mock draft.

Major League Baseball has narrowed the list of candidates down to 50 for the 2012 MLB Fan Cave, and is now asking for your help to select a winner. I won't tell you how to vote, but I will mention that two Brewer fans made the ballot.

If you'd like more from me today but you're sick of reading, my appearance on The Home Stretch with Justin Hull from yesterday is archived online. We spent most of an hour discussing all things Brewers, and it looks like I'll be back making weekly appearances on the show again this season.

Finally, thanks again to Nicole for filling in for me yesterday while I was at the dentist. Go back and check out yesterday's Frozen Margarita, if you haven't already.

Around baseball:

Astros: Signed shortstop Jed Lowrie to a one year, $1.15 million deal to avoid arbitration.
Diamondbacks
: Signed pitcher Craig Breslow to a one year, $1.795 million deal to avoid arbitration.
Giants: Designated outfielder Justin Christian for assignment.
Marlins: Lost their arbitration case with outfielder Emilio Bonifacio, who will make $2.2 million in 2012.
Padres: Signed pitcher Jeff Suppan to a minor league deal.
Rangers: Signed shortstop Elvis Andrus to a three year, $14.4 million contract extension.
Reds: Designated pitcher Carlos Fisher for assignment.
Yankees: Signed infielders Bill Hall and Russell Branyan to minor league deals.

In former Brewers:

  • High Heat Stats has a look at how hitters' walk rates change as they approach both the end of their career and 3000 hits, but finds little conclusive evidence to suggest hitters become more swing-happy as they near the milestone. Robin Yount's walk rate actually went up during his last three years.
  • High Heat Stats also lists Bob Hamelin and Tom Brunansky among 27 major leaguers who posted an OPS+ above 125 in their first or second major league season, but finished their career below 110.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I think I've reached my limit.

Drink up.

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Russ

That 1B-NYY still hurts a bit, but totally worth it.

All this brouhaha over what cap Dawson might wear is silly. Big question: How will he get in? He's not going to walk.

by PaulNoonan on Feb 9, 2012 10:30 AM CST reply actions  

Or Almonte.

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 9, 2012 11:11 AM CST up reply actions  

I doubt it

Unless they let Counsell onto the field during warmups.

by sjlee on Feb 9, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

See?

He was worth something last year. Also, a good start to his front office career. I’ll unofficially call that his first personnel decision.

by mpbMKE on Feb 9, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Greinke could very work out a deal during spring training.

He might start discussions by himself, but when it comes time to work out a deal, he will hire an agent.

Asked about a possible extension, Greinke said, "I’ll talk to them about it. I don’t really want to talk to anyone else about it. But I like the business of baseball. It’s exciting for me. It’s not like I plan on being my agent, but it is exciting being able to know what’s going on behind the scenes."

link

People are making a big deal about him not having an agent at the moment, but really, it’s not that big of a deal.

by tcyoung on Feb 9, 2012 10:51 AM CST reply actions  

I think there's a good chance we'll get it done.

I think he likes it here, and hasn’t pitched so great that his contract will be astronomical.
I expect a big year from him, though.

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 9, 2012 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Gosh, this would be great.

Especially considering how many “#2-#3” pitchers we have in the system now and who could come up in the next few years…

Gallardo / Greinke / Peralta / Bradley / Jungmann

Yes. Please.

fka "warwick5s"

by DEUCE SLUICE on Feb 9, 2012 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Not bad.

Need me some Thornberg in that rotation and I’m set.

by Mr. McGehee on Feb 9, 2012 11:33 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

All 5'10" of him...

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Feb 9, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

If he were 2 inches taller no one would care

I obviously get the concerns with a smaller body type, but seems like a lot of the national “scouts” are quick to put him as a “bullpen” guy simply by looking at height alone.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Feb 9, 2012 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, also Drew Brees

I think its valid to point out that he’s short in stature, though.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Feb 9, 2012 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely worth noting

I guess it seems like we get a lot of “he’s short = bullpen” without explanation specific to Thornburg. With baseball players coming in all shapes and sizes, sort of expect reasons specific to Thornburg (and I haven’t seen many of them, may have missed them) if you’re going to be paid to write up evaluations about him.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Feb 9, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Can I guess?

btc’s standard complaint: He lacks a third pitch. Nobody has any third pitches!

by Noah Jarosh on Feb 9, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't hold your breath...

"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa

by mnbrewer on Feb 9, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions  

There is some merit though to the height thing though

There haven’t been very many sub 6-foot starting pitchers in MLB that had very good careers. While browsing through B-R, it took me a whlie to come up with a couple from the all-time games started list…Fernando Valenzuela and Pedro Martinez. I also found that Higuera was 5’10".

by sjlee on Feb 9, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely some merit

And I don’t mean to imply that it shouldn’t be brought up when discussing him.

Get a ife broseph

by Supertramp on Feb 9, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Right

So did the other two guys that I listed. My point wasn’t that no one under 6-ft tall could have success as an MLB starter, but rather it is unlikely.

by sjlee on Feb 10, 2012 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Not that he's spectacular, but

Randy Wolf is not 6’ tall. If I remember right he is listed as 5’11" or something but I have stood next to him and have pictures to prove he’s about 5’8" maybe 9".

by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 9, 2012 8:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I know

And that is why I was so surprised. My wife was up to his nose. But heights/weights are always exagerated in sports.

by Whiffleball Tony on Feb 11, 2012 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

There is no way Randy Wolf is only 5'8"

Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!

by SRB on Feb 10, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

he could _not_ hire an agent, though

some players have represented themselves over the years and normally just hire a lawyer on an hourly basis to deal with the paperwork. most MLB contracts are on a standard template, so there’s not much verbiage shenanigans, just years, amounts, incentives, really.

sheffield did this all the time and i think a couple other guys recently.

by Capt Science on Feb 9, 2012 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

How much leverage would the agent have?

If he tells his agent he wants an extension, because he doesn’t want to play somewhere else, what can an agent really do in negotiations? I guess he could know how to structure a contract better than Greinke, but without really being able to shop him around, the agent’s benefit would be hampered.

This is where Doug’s work on signing Hart, weeks and Gallardo to fair market price extensions could really pay off. He’s developed a reputation for fair play, but not being willing to overpay.

I don’t really see how the budget fits in a pitcher of Greinke’s calibre, but I would nearly pee my pants if they can head their rotation with Gallardo and Greinke for the next few years.

by ecocd on Feb 9, 2012 12:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Graham crackers can be addicting.

Just bought some for the first time in a while to make a crust for a cheesecake. The graham crackers I had left over didn’t last long.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

Time to make you shake your fist some more.

I like to put peanut butter on graham crackers, and then add honey to that…

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 9, 2012 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

No, not this time.

That doesn’t sound as good to me.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

If Ryan Braun is innocent...

I will make it my immediate goal to get Buster Olney to block me on Twitter.

by jcollins205 on Feb 9, 2012 12:08 PM CST reply actions   2 recs

Remember, that's not the correct terminology.

He won’t be found “innocent”. He’ll be found “not guilty”.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I know...

I wanted to use the "Miller Park Drunk’ terminology:)

by jcollins205 on Feb 9, 2012 12:20 PM CST up reply actions  

By the way, I know people were asking about this before

The difference between innocent & not guilty:

Not guilty means that there was not enough evidence to move a juror beyond a reasonable doubt. Innocent means that one has not committed a crime. A jury doesn’t find a person innocent.

Link

I know, not the greatest site to pull an answer from, but there’s the difference.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Right but in this hearing the burden of proof is on Braun (not the MLB)

So in this case he will be found innocent or not innocent.

I hate Yuni.

by BrewCrewBrian on Feb 9, 2012 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter isn’t “innocent” of my charge that he is a serial killer and routinely eats babies, he’s just “not guilty”

Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!

by SRB on Feb 9, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

The twitter bomb or the Shawshank?

Twitter bomb is more immediately satisfying. A single @ message every single day of the season could be more fun over the long-term.

by ecocd on Feb 9, 2012 12:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Do it Burma-Shave style.

Send him a few words of your message each day.

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 9, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I may just go nuclear on him either way.

His whole stance since the leak has really ticked me off. If Braun is suspended and Olney gets to do the whole ‘I told you so’ routine, it’ll be much less satisfying. Not that he’s gonna care anyway, of course.

by jcollins205 on Feb 9, 2012 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Watching the Brewers away from home

Wondering if anyone has thoughts on this. I live in Minnesota where I get Extra Innings on Direct TV. I’ve gotten it for four years now and I like it but I took a new job so I live in a hotel in San Diego one or two weeks each month. What’s the best way to watch the Brewers away from home. Has anyone used a sling box which would connect me back to my Tivo at home. Or is MLB TV better? Other options?

by Hangwith'em Rach on Feb 9, 2012 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

Slingbox is cool, but you need to hook it up to your main cable box, which means you need to watch whatever your family/roomates are watching.

You can control the TV with slingbox, but so can they. If you put it on a secondary box, you’ll need to leave that box on all of the time.

I love my MLBtv, but it’s pretty expensive, especially if you’re already paying for cable.

by tcyoung on Feb 9, 2012 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

My family has MLB.tv

but then again, we have 3 people in 3 different places that watch on it.

Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.

by Tepo6688 on Feb 9, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I haven't, no.

But then again, I can’t say for sure that there’s ever been more than one person on it at a time.

Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.

by Tepo6688 on Feb 9, 2012 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

bandwidth may be a problem regardless of which method

Bandwidth in hotels tends to be good for surfing and light streaming, but I’m skeptical if it would be enough to consistently stream a baseball game for 3 hours.

I love MLB.TV and I actually think it’s a bargain at $120. Slingbox would offer you the opportunity to stream other programs on the road or on vacation. I don’t know if either will be a great solution for your situation in SD.

Another option would be to find a sports bar out there that has the Extra Innings package and will consistently show the game on a TV for you. The last option is MLB Audio which is only $15-20 and lets you listen to Uecker call every game almost no matter where you are.

by ecocd on Feb 9, 2012 12:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I was able to watch a Brewers game at a hotel in CHI last summer using MLBtv.

The picture quality reduces with bandwith, but I think you should probably be able to tune it in and watch just fine.

by tcyoung on Feb 9, 2012 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Good point

I don’t know how good Slingbox is at adjusting the bitrate with limited bandwidth. MLB.TV is pretty good at it.

MLB Audio comes with MLB. TV, btw (but not the At-Bat mobile app).

by ecocd on Feb 9, 2012 12:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed on hotel bandwidth

of course if she’s already doing loads of remote work she probably already knows this, but: 4G data connection is probably a good bet there

I have a 3G hotspot, and it’s kind of crap for streaming due to bandwidth limit, but it works pretty well for most things.

by morineko on Feb 9, 2012 11:50 PM CST up reply actions  

So...

How ‘bout that local sports team? I think they’re pretty good, but the star player has a bit of an ego.

Baseball, you can't get here soon enough.

by Tepo6688 on Feb 9, 2012 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

They're not that good

I prefer the other local sports team. They’re better, and while the star player isn’t as good, he has no ego.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 12:40 PM CST up reply actions  

worst defensive play you ever saw at a minor league game?

Mankato Moondogs, a few summers ago, I saw three errors on the same play. CF boots a hard grounder up the middle. Throws home but skies it over the catcher into the backstop. The pitcher picks it up and tries to gun the original batter down at third. His throw bounces before it gets to the bag and goes through the legs of the 3B. Everyone scores.

Ugh, Shortstop

by theBrouhaha on Feb 9, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Pujols is a first class a-hole, however

he’s one of the best players in the history of the game. Braun is cocky, but he’s the reigning NL MVP. It’s not boasting if you can back it up.

How much of Pujols’ elitist, holier-than-thou attitude is justified by his status? How much is Braun’s cockiness is justified?

by ecocd on Feb 9, 2012 12:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think he even admits it.

But it’s one thing to be cocky, and another thing to be arrogant. I don’t think he’s arrogant, in fact he seems to be really level-headed. He’s an abundantly confident person, and why shouldn’t he be?

by mpbMKE on Feb 9, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Pujols can be as arrogant as he wants

The reason to make fun of Pujols is because he does things like admire his home runs, but then gets very self-righteous about that behavior in others. It’s more the hypocrisy.

Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!

by SRB on Feb 9, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

We could continue the video game tangent that's been going on...

I have no idea where that has even gone lately.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 1:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I play very few games on my PC.

I just have too many problems trying to play most games on it. Unless you get a dedicated gaming computer, that’s probably the case. I’d rather have a console that is specifically designed for the game.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I do most of my gaming on PS3. I got it just for The Show.

But I also use it to stream MLB.tv. And some of the PS3 exclusive games (Uncharted, inFamous, Little Big Planet) are a lot of fun. I can live without Halo.

I used to be primarily a PC guy, and I’d regularly upgrade my desktop box to keep up with the necessary system specs. But it’s a lot harder to upgrade a laptop. So I mainly use the PC for web, office, etc. now.

Remember: Schadenfreude is still Freude.

by Brew Angel on Feb 9, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions  

360 is going to be able to stream MLB.TV this season and I AM PUMPED

I wish it could do The Show, but the exclusive ends this season and I can deal with 2k12 until there’s The Show for the 360.

fka "warwick5s"

by DEUCE SLUICE on Feb 9, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Hate to break it to you...

But The Show is produced by Sony. It’s a 2K third-party exclusive, which just meant no one but Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo were allowed to produce MLB-licensed games for the consoles. EA Sports might get back into the MVP Baseball franchise, which was fantastic in the last generation, but that would still be a start-up property and need a couple years to develop.

by mpbMKE on Feb 9, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone ever type "sausage" into the search box at B-R?

Thanks, Jay Jaffe and Jacob Peterson. Good times.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Feb 9, 2012 12:58 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

That's pretty good.

Whatever happened to him? Is he toiling in the minors somewhere?

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 9, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Nevermind, he's old as hell.

Career WAR -1.1

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 9, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Kameron Loe is now on Twitter

Don’t know if that has been mentioned.

Link

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 1:47 PM CST reply actions  

By the way

Sounds like he’s already in camp (or at least working on his pitching somewhere in preparation for camp).

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep. "Good first day of bullpen."

Also, he’s had
lunch with Manny P. Good news, I think.

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 9, 2012 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Who is the player on the Brewers

most likely to shove Manny Parra in the face now that Prince is gone?

by NatronJ on Feb 9, 2012 1:52 PM CST reply actions  

I would love this

"Our attitude is we look at ourselves and we grade ourselves. And even if we don’t like what’s happening on the other side, we don’t make a — it’s not our business" - Tony Larussa

by mnbrewer on Feb 9, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

ha

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Feb 9, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Who wins in a fight?

Rickie Weeks vs. Prince Fielder + CC Sabathia + Stay Puft Marshmallow Man + New York National Guard

Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!

by SRB on Feb 9, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh wait, Prince isn't on the Yankees...

Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!

by SRB on Feb 9, 2012 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Rickie Weeks vs. Prince Fielder + Miguel Cabrera + Robocop

Solve for X: 5.5 (Fielder) + 0.3 (McGehee) + 0.5 (Betancourt) < X (Gamel) + 3.6 (Ramirez) + 1.1 (Gonzalez)... X >= 1.7 fWAR!

by SRB on Feb 9, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

+ Iggy Pop

To balance out the Fielder/Cabrera girth.

by kmals on Feb 9, 2012 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Absolutely,

Roenicke will.

...BRANDONJENNINGSSUX!!!

by TwoShoesMcGooze on Feb 9, 2012 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Man.

Ear hair really bums me out.

by NatronJ on Feb 9, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Better that than turning you on I guess.

Give him an offspeed pitch down and in. He will swing and miss.

by cooper82 on Feb 9, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Hadn't seen it summarized anywhere else

But I know it was mentioned that Wily Peralta was 39 on Keith Law’s prospect list, and Taylor Jungmann came in at 58. I’ll summarize to keep from reposting content that I have to pay for, and ESPN probably will get irritated at me copy/pasting:

Wily Peralta:

Law feels like Peralta would be best suited to start this year as the #5 starting pitcher in the Brewers’ rotation(but acknowledges that it almost certainly won’t happen), and that he has #2 or #3 upside. He says that Peralta will be 94-97 with his fastball, with an above-average slider and average changeup. I didn’t realize that Peralta is 6’2" 240, but Law says that he handles it well on the mound. He suggests that Peralta could contribute immediately in the rotation while he develops command and control, but that his strikeout totals and results caught up with his stuff last year.

Taylor Jungmann:

Its surprising that Law says that Jungmann doesn’t have as high a ceiling as many prospects on the list, particularly considering his methodology includes a recently-adjusted viewpoint on emphasizing higher-ceiling guys, rather than lower-ceiling but closer to the majors. Law justifies it by saying Jungmann has an easy delivery and commands both sides of the plate extremely well. He profiles as a #3 starter, but could play above that due to command and strike-throwing. He’ll sit at 91-93, but can easily hit 94-95 whenever he wants it. Law says some teams didn’t like him due to some post-release head-violence that did not affect his command, but might indicate potential for injury. He also suggests that if Jungmann lengthened his stride, he could add some velocity.

I’m hoping its appropriate for me to summarize this insider stuff (I figure MLBTR does it on a regular basis). If not, feel free to delete it.

"If we want to sign a Type A free agent, we would lose a second-round pick, but we don't have a way to get picks back. Our whole Draft process needs to be redone."

~Doug Melvin

"Something always good seems to happen when he's in there. Numbers matched up good."

~RRR

by Charlie Marlow on Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I think from all the reports that

Peralta will be the 1st starter called-up if/when one of the starting 5 goes on the DL.
It is good to think that over the next couple of seasons that there will be 2 or 3 pitchers coming up from the minors rather than relying on the rather more expensive FA route.

by Saltire on Feb 9, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm guessing Fiers is Starter #7 (Estrada being #6)

I’m not sure the Brewers would want to bring Peralta up just for a couple of starts and mess with the chance of him getting shelled and sent back down with no real time to work anything out. If the Brewers bring up Peralta, I think it’ll be as a long-term (> 1 month) injury replacement.

by Cheeseandcorn on Feb 9, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that Estrada will be #6

If it is only for 1 or 2 starts but if that is the case then Fiers would be called up to be the “long man” in the bullpen. I don’t see him being used as a starter before Pertalta unless it is for a 1 off game due to injuries/rainouts etc.

by Saltire on Feb 9, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Kyle posted some Not Breaking News on Twitter a half hour ago.
NOT BREAKING: Ryan Braun’s appeal WILL NEVER BE RESOLVED.

Does that mean that we won’t have to worry about him having to be suspended at all?

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

Maybe it's him

I don’t know, I usually assume Kyle because he’s the only one I know with direct access to that Twitter account.

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by -JP- on Feb 9, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I wrote a similar sentence a few hours ago.

But, yeah, if it’s the BCB account, it’s Kyle. Unless it links to one of our stories.

by Noah Jarosh on Feb 9, 2012 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

That was me.

I’m getting really frustrated with the lack of resolution.

Now that's great tasting chicken!

by Kyle Lobner on Feb 9, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions  

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by Yar Nivek on Feb 9, 2012 7:21 PM CST up reply actions  

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