Game Thread #120: No Predictions Today

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 15, 2007 6:36 PM CDT in Game Threads

I'm not sayin' anything.

Go Brewers!

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I see we learned our lesson :)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 4:24 PM CDT reply actions

lineup

Gabe Gross RF
J.J. Hardy SS
Prince Fielder 1B
Ryan Braun 3B
Geoff Jenkins LF
Johnny Estrada C
Bill Hall CF
Craig Counsell 2B
Yovani Gallardo P

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 4:48 PM CDT reply actions

But what is new. Guys gets called up from AAA not only does he start but he leads off. With Fielder and Braun hitting 3 and 4 really all our top two hitters should be doing is trying to get on base however possible. With this lineup we have a .321 OBP followed by a .323 OBP. If Counsell wasn't struggling so much I wouldn't mind seeing him at the top of the lineup.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions

Agreed on Counsell

He'd understand what his role was at the top. He'd still hit .250 or so in that slot, but I bet he'd push his OBP up pretty quickly in that slot.

That said, I'll take Hart at the top of the lineup. I just wonder what Brewer fan slowed Gross down in security to keep him out of the leadoff spot tonight.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions

here's what i don't get..

hardy was doing so well in the 8 spot--so why move him?

"You can't explain it. That's why it's a game." -Ned Yost

by Michael M on Aug 15, 2007 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Ouch

with this lineup he should hit Yovani 8th like some other manager...

by molitorfan on Aug 15, 2007 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions

8th?

or 6th?

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions

it changed

Hart is in now. Where? Not a clue.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 15, 2007 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions

hart is now batting leadoff...

i still wish hardy was batting 8th, but i'm a bit happier

"You can't explain it. That's why it's a game." -Ned Yost

by Michael M on Aug 15, 2007 6:33 PM CDT reply actions

Apparently

The only reason Gross isn't batting lead off is because his plane was late.

by drezdn on Aug 15, 2007 6:44 PM CDT reply actions

Edmonds behind Pujols

So be very careful with Pujols today.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 6:56 PM CDT reply actions

Is Capuano

pitching again tonight?

by molitorfan on Aug 15, 2007 7:14 PM CDT reply actions

Albert cheats

he puts his back leg behind the line.

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 7:16 PM CDT reply actions

So do 30% of the hitters in MLB.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions

do you know that for a fact?

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Absolutely not.

But I've noticed it out of enough hitters (including some current and recently former Brewers) that it seems to be a widespread tactic.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Case in point:

BA just commented on the fact that Ryan Braun had his back foot in pretty much the same spot as Pujols.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions

braun

had it on the line. Albert had it behind the line.

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Have it your way then.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Me & my dad

used to discuss this all the time when I was little.

It wound up being one of those "Everybody does it, deal with it" situations.

So, I'd try to go kick the chalk off the back line before little league games. I was pimpin' it.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 15, 2007 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Off Topic

But it's going to be very interesting to see what our rotation looks like next season. I just hope Parra and Gallardo's arms survive the major increase in innings from 2006-2007.

Assuming good health for all involved:

Sheets, Gallardo, Suppan, Capuano, Parra?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 7:19 PM CDT reply actions

I really hope Capuano can return to form

It'd be good if we get last year's Capuano next year instead of this year's, but I don't know if you can count on it. They'll definitely have a huge selection of arms to choose from.

by warwick5s on Aug 15, 2007 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions

well

he hit some ball hard this inning, its only a matter of time before the bats break out, hell if billy is hitting homeruns, then the rest of the guys can't be far behind

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 7:45 PM CDT reply actions

am I the only one here??

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 8:05 PM CDT reply actions

my enthusiasm for this team

is plunging by the day.

Weird, but not weird.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 15, 2007 8:06 PM CDT reply actions

I hear ya.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions

I keep thinking that at some point

we have to catch some breaks for a few days in a row. That we have to get hot again. But the longer we go without that happening, the less likely it seems. Not to say there haven't been some high points over the last month or so. There have, but they just never seem to string them together, and because of the kind of team they are (sporadic defense, home run dependent offense) they're hard to watch when they're losing.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions

why

am i gonna waste my time watching this team.

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 8:19 PM CDT reply actions

yeah

I feel like watching the Brewers these days is just a waste of my time, I am sick of these no name pitchers giving up nothing against us

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 8:25 PM CDT reply actions

wow

when the brewers are batting the inning goes by so fast....I thought we were suppose to play good at home, what ever happen to that. Did everyone forget we only play shitty on the road?

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 8:28 PM CDT reply actions

Well it is already 5-1

If they add anymore this inning it is going to be near impossible to win. Have to hold them here and pray the top of the order can do something.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 8:34 PM CDT reply actions

Yoga

needs to do or do not, there is no try.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 8:37 PM CDT reply actions

Needed that laugh.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Wow.

The Cards are really playing well. Hate to say it, but it's hard to find any mistakes (under the pitch to Hall) tonight.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 8:38 PM CDT reply actions

So I know Gallardo just hit 100 pitches....

... but it seems odd to hook him with 2 out in the 6th when you're down 6 runs and showing 0 life at the plate anyway.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 8:42 PM CDT reply actions

I'm confused

If we're so concerned with Gallardo's arm, why was he in there so long on a night he clearly didn't have it?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Well, time to watch the Reds kick the crap out of

Ted Lilly.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 8:46 PM CDT reply actions

Sounds like

Cappy is going to get another start. Harang going for the Reds so good luck Cappy.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 8:48 PM CDT reply actions

you might as well

have cappy pitch through it because we arnt going ANYWHERE. EVERYBODY GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS THAT WE ARE DONE.

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Wait

What are you trying to say?

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions

sorry

just frustrated.

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions

Gallardo

has learned from our veterans- give up 7 and leave after 6.
&- can someone in a Brewer uniform get a G55$&& Hit- Jes*%$ I'm losing it- get a hit someone- they are professionals.
christ ! another homer- the crowd has got to let them have it- this is embareassing

by Brooks Kieschnick on Aug 15, 2007 8:55 PM CDT reply actions

no need to censor it

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 15, 2007 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Reds 2, Cubs 0

middle of the second

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 9:11 PM CDT reply actions

who gives a shit

some one has to win the central, and I don't want it to be the cards, so it might as well be the cubs.....go cubs

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions

sorry

maybe went a little over board there, just sick of them playing like shit and cheering for the cubs to lose every fucking night

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Well some positive news

2-0 reds on a homer by Ryan Jorgensen(?). At this point we will take any good news.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:12 PM CDT reply actions

Jorgensen

He was a Cubs draft pick way back in the day but still begs the question, where do all these emergency catchers go between their 4 at bat seasons in the majors? Speaking of catchers whose major league experience was few and far between, Tim Laker is retired now and managing the Indians' NYPL team -- that's kind of sad and cool at the same time. Alright, I'm done waxing nostalgic now.

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by TheJay on Aug 16, 2007 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions

I know it seems terrible right now

But this team still has a good chance of winning the division. They have to play better obviously but the cubs and cards are not good teams.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:18 PM CDT reply actions

i can't take this...

i purposely didn't follow the game cause they are tough to watch, and i had a theory that they play better when i dont watch... but just... damn. damn.

by Jamie in LA on Aug 15, 2007 9:20 PM CDT reply actions

if we

If we are not going to win games at HOME, against BAD teams, then who are we going to beat??

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions

I wonder how much heat is on Ned right now

from the front office? I have to think he is going to get fired if they don't win this division. BTW cubs up 3-2 now. Reds going to need a lot of runs tonight.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:23 PM CDT reply actions

and

the cubs are winning

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 9:24 PM CDT reply actions

do you think

joe dillion can pitch too??

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions

I think we are going to see him start tomorrow

Probably at 2nd. I wonder what kind of lineup Ned is going to put out there tomorrow? While tomorrow is by no means a must win it sure will be an important game.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions

man o man...

could we all have been right all along; that ned is a terrible manager? seriously, hire ted simmons.

by Jamie in LA on Aug 15, 2007 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Not disagreeing just wondering about the lineup

While I blame a lot of things on Ned if the starters continue to get shelled every single night I don't know how much anyone could do.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions

ya...

but i think ned is responsible for the starting pitching to some extent; cause he should he getting these guys confident and ready to play every day. and his lineups make him look like he is managing for his job.

by Jamie in LA on Aug 15, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions

I think

I think he is managing for his job!

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions

he wasnt a month ago; i guess thats my point

by Jamie in LA on Aug 15, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions

I think he's running a speed camp

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions

How about Dillon in the lead-off spot?

by Pa Wobs on Aug 15, 2007 9:27 PM CDT reply actions

That Dillon is the cat's pajamas.

Finer than frog hair!

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions

But ...

you can't see frog hair!

by Pa Wobs on Aug 15, 2007 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions

8-3 with two outs in the 8th

and LaRussa is double switching. Now that might drive some people nuts but you have to admire a guy who is willing to squeeze ever last drop out to get the win.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:30 PM CDT reply actions

I would take

Larussa over ned any day of the week

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Hey... Shouse is alive

Good to know that.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:35 PM CDT reply actions

3-3 Griffey tied it up

That game is going to go late into the night.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:36 PM CDT reply actions

I believe...

...Matt Kinney, Jose Mercedes and/or Jeff Juden are available to enter the rotation. Cripes, the team is just awful right now.

by Action202 on Aug 15, 2007 9:39 PM CDT reply actions

wow

simply put, a beautiful comment.

Jose Mercedes. Awesome.

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 15, 2007 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions

6-3 Reds on a conine homer

That game is going to wear out my typing fingers.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:40 PM CDT reply actions

Rally?

Izzy up in the pen.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:44 PM CDT reply actions

We've got to think positive

So... Go Sounds!

by drezdn on Aug 15, 2007 9:45 PM CDT reply actions

Could we see an R.A. Dickey appearance?

That really might be a panic move.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions

You know we are behind by a lot

When Estrada doesn't swing at either of the first two pitches.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:46 PM CDT reply actions

HAAAAAAAAAAA

by Jamie in LA on Aug 15, 2007 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Holy Sh**.

Did Estrada just try to work the count?

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 9:47 PM CDT reply actions

Well obviously that didn't work

Back to the regular game plan tomorrow (or more likely Friday).

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions

OMG

the reds just brought in Victor Santos with no outs in the bottom of the 3rd.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:50 PM CDT reply actions

Can we hit the panic button yet?

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:54 PM CDT reply actions

by the way...

im not even bothering to watch the game on my mlbtv package. it's too painful. im letting you guys do the heavy lifting...

by Jamie in LA on Aug 15, 2007 9:54 PM CDT reply actions

Well it is over now

Reds pitchers walk the first four cub batters in the bottom of the 3rd after being staked to a 6-3 lead. Ugh. And we thought we had pitching problems.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:56 PM CDT reply actions

6-6 reds cubs

That is it I'm going to bed.

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by dixieflatline on Aug 15, 2007 9:58 PM CDT reply actions

i am sooooooooooo sick

of VITOR LOOOOOOOOOOSER SANTOS

by baseballdan1092 on Aug 15, 2007 9:59 PM CDT reply actions

Admit it

A lobbyist for the CAPS LOCK people is giving you kickbacks.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions

I love the very idea

that there are caps lock "people"

maybe that's why karl rove left the white house--he got an offer from the caps lock people that he couldn't refuse.

Weird, but not weird.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 15, 2007 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Well sure

Typing in all caps is considered an computing no-no, yet every keyboard has a CAPS LOCK key. The only reason that makes any sense is a CAPS LOCK lobby.

I also have suspicions about the vertical bar (|) as well. What is this, UNIX?

I thought Rove left because thre was a puppy in Texas who was rumored to have been unkicked. That's what Rambling Al says, anyway. :)

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 15, 2007 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions

interesting.

i wondered what the story was with rove, yet i didn't think to check with Al.

personally, i like the vertical bar, though i would prefer the greek letter pi. but that's just me.

Weird, but not weird.

by Jeff Sackmann on Aug 15, 2007 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Ramirez

Ramirez home run to deep left field... man that gives me nightmares. Cubs up 7-6. Well... there's always next year.

by MunichBrats on Aug 15, 2007 10:14 PM CDT reply actions

go packers

atleast they have not lost yet

by Bigdogg2002 on Aug 15, 2007 10:21 PM CDT reply actions

9-9 top 8

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by Dikembe Meiztombo on Aug 15, 2007 11:23 PM CDT reply actions

Joe Dillon

He has the team's longest hitting streak now.

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by TheJay on Aug 15, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply actions

Cubs lose.

11-9.

The reaper is held at bay for another 2 days.

Whoopee.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 15, 2007 11:54 PM CDT reply actions

Yeah

Clinging to the 1 1/2 game lead on the NL Central right now is sort of like holding onto the railing at the stern of the Titanic around 2 AM.

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by TheJay on Aug 16, 2007 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions

do you guys think we will win again this season?

by Jamie in LA on Aug 16, 2007 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions

Yes, indeedy

I still think the team will mount a mini-run, something like 7-2 or 8-3 and people will get cautiously excited again. With how it's going right now, though...oy.

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by TheJay on Aug 16, 2007 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions

haven't you

been calling this hot streak for about 3 weeks now?

by molitorfan on Aug 16, 2007 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Probably

I don't know exactly when it'll happen, but I doubt the last 40 games will go by without it.

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by TheJay on Aug 16, 2007 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions

I hope that

it starts today. For all of our mental health!

by molitorfan on Aug 16, 2007 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions

It'd be nice

If the winner of the NL Central at least had a .500 record.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 16, 2007 6:50 AM CDT reply actions

Timmy K

is on Mike and Mike right now saying 83 wins takes it.

by molitorfan on Aug 16, 2007 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions

Sure would.

Too bad baseball doesn't have ties. I'd know what to root for when the Cards and Cubbies hook up later this week.

by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Aug 16, 2007 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions

Cappy's Last Chance

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270815108

"Before Wednesday's game, Yost said he would give another struggling starter, former All-Star Chris Capuano, one more chance to regain his command against Cincinnati on Sunday. The Brewers have lost the last 15 games Capuano has started."

by molitorfan on Aug 16, 2007 6:55 AM CDT reply actions

Against Harang

Nothing like adding to the pressure Ned isn't doing Capuano any favors giving him one last start.

Harang will use his fastball to pound the nails in Capuano's coffin.

It is a shame Cappy seems like a nice decent guy he was very cool to me the one time I met him. I guess its true Nice Guys Do Finish Last.

Fire Ned, Hire Joe Girardi

by WSB Chris on Aug 16, 2007 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions

Talk about pressure

No, it doesn't look good. I like him too, though this season has been a lost one for him.

"I will agree that the attitude [at BCB] is ridiculous and they have done so much to instigate animosity and then block us from responding. Real mature!"

by roguejim on Aug 16, 2007 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions

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