Turnbow Splits - Days of Rest
On days when Turnbow has had at least a day of rest:
33 games
30 innings
19 hits
7 ER
13 BB
37 K
0 HR
2.10 ERA
On days when Turnbow has had no rest:
19 games
16 innings
16 hits
15 ER
9 BB
21 K
4 HR
8.44 ERA
Ned talked about getting Linebrink to get some rest for Turnbow. The numbers seem to back up the theory that Turnbow pitches better with at least a day off between appearances.
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Interesting
by Jeff Sackmann on Jul 30, 2007 10:47 AM CDT 0 recs
interestingly...
by Zeyes on Jul 30, 2007 12:01 PM CDT 0 recs
it's true
OPS against is .676 vs. .782 respectively.
So who's cheating at home against us? First I looked at batting average on balls in play against for the different ballparks. i only concerned myself with the NL central, record is included.
3-3 wrigley, .352
2-4 riverfront, .357
2-1 enron, .329
1-3 pnc, .272
2-4 busch, .364
Woah! In the NL central this year teams hit better at home, in '07 so far home team as a BABIP of .299 and away is .295
I'm looking at BABIP because what i'm looking for is something that would show up as good luck, and that is stealing signs. You are going to hit the ball harder, and more balls in play will fall in for hits if you know the pitch coming, and in the NL central this year, nearly everyone is doing much better against the brewers than would be expected. particularly st. louis, cincinatti, and chicago.
To find out if I'm on to something i look at home & away splits for each of these teams. If they are stealing signs at home it should show up in the splits. In the NL this year teams are +.024 OPS and +.004 BABIP at home. Here's how the NL Central stacks up:
cubs @ wrigley OPS +.016, BABIP +.004
reds @ riverfront OPS +.086, BABIP +.008
astros @ enron OPS +.032, BABIP +.011
pirates @ pnc OPS +.020, BABIP +.019
cardinals @ busch OPS +.009, BABIP +.015
aside from the reds @ home (nearly double their HR rate at home versus the road!) everything looks pretty acceptable.
if teams are stealing signs, it's not against everyone, or not showing up here in the stats i'm looking at.
I looked at one more thing, the late & close split, but the samples get muddied and small enough to have too much noise, interestingly though the cardinals and the cubs both had significantly more "luck" (their highest babip) late & close than the other NL central teams.
by jacob on
Jul 30, 2007 12:57 PM CDT
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good stuff
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2007 1:00 PM CDT
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One idea
"There are freaking geeks out there who get ... off on this kind of stuff," Melvin said.
by TheJay on Jul 30, 2007 12:37 PM CDT 0 recs
Some numbers
21 G
17 IP
18 H
16 R, 16 ER
10 BB
24 K
3 HR
1 HBP
8.47 ERA
4.61 FIP
Days when Turnbow is facing a team for the first time in a series:
31 G
29 IP
17 H
6 R, 6 ER
12 BB
34 K
1 HR
1 HBP
1.86 ERA
2.65 FIP
Part of that goes hand in hand with the days rest split, though, too. Six times this year he's faced a team for the second (or third) time in a series with a day's rest under his belt and he's put up a 5 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 7 K, 1 HBP, 3.60 ERA line, which kind of splits the difference. Of course, six games isn't very much in the grand scheme of things.
"There are freaking geeks out there who get ... off on this kind of stuff," Melvin said.
by TheJay on
Jul 30, 2007 1:01 PM CDT
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thanks!
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2007 1:12 PM CDT
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D-backs
by MunichBrats on Jul 30, 2007 1:49 PM CDT 0 recs
Interesting
by stevie ray Braun on Jul 30, 2007 3:24 PM CDT 0 recs
good to know...
I also wonder, if it is sign of D-Bow (and perhaps others?) tiring as the season moves along?
by oaklandbrewerfan on Jul 30, 2007 4:20 PM CDT 0 recs
Good stuff
by TAPmoney on Jul 30, 2007 4:32 PM CDT 0 recs
you know...
by Jeff Sackmann on
Jul 30, 2007 5:14 PM CDT
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No excuse
by Jwillie67 on
Jul 30, 2007 5:44 PM CDT
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because
11 times on zero days rest turnbow has posted a zero, and once on back to back days of zero days rest.
i'm, as the otherside derisively likes call it, a stathead. but, as the otherside is wont to overstate, the stats don't always paint the whole picture.
by jacob on
Jul 31, 2007 9:20 AM CDT
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In Ned's Defense
We haven't gotten a chance to see if this will happen yet though because last weekend was so crowded with the double header and all. No situation to rest Turnbow so far since Linebrink's been here, but Linebrink could take over part of that 8th inning role from now on.
by stevie ray Braun on Jul 30, 2007 7:57 PM CDT 0 recs













