Brewers All-Time Best Line-Ups - Rob Neyer Revisited...

Rob Neyer's "Big Book of Baseball Lineups" came out in 2003 and includes a number of different line-ups for each team, ranging from the serious (all-time team, gold glove team, all-rookie) to the less serious (best nicknames).

Two of the teams listed for each MLB side were the best all-time team and the second best team with Neyer's full commentary noted below. Eleven years on, what changes would you make to the Brewers teams listed below?


DH: Paul Molitor (1991-4). Became full-time DH his last 2 years in Milwaukee, and enjoyed two of his best three seasons; games by position as a Brewer: 3B 791, DH 418, 2B 400, SS 57, OF 50

C: Charlie Moore (1973-1986). He spent 14-plus years in the majors, and was generally a good-hitting catcher except for three mid-career seasons in which he was a poor-hitting right fielder

1B: Cecil Cooper (1977-1987). Stolen from Red Sox for George Scott, batted .302 as a Brewer - third best behind Cirillo and Molitor - and garnered four straight top 10 MVP finishes, 1980-1983

2B: Jim Gantner (1976-1992). Entire 1,801-game career came as a good-fielding, weak-hitting Brewer; more games (1,449) at second base than the next three Brewers (Garcia, Vina, Molitor) combined

SS: Yuni Betancourt Robin Yount (1974-1984). Hall of Famer's career stats look something like Phil Niekro's: a couple of incredible seasons (MVP for Yount in both) mixed with a lot of good ones

3B: Paul Molitor (1978-1990). Amazing progression as a postseason player; from '81 to '93 his postseason averages went .250, .316, .355. .391, and culminated with a 12-for-24 World Series

LF: Ben Oglivie (1976-1986). Up-and-down player who hit above .300 and below .245 twice in a 5-year period. Brewers got him for Jim Slaton, who ended up coming back to Milwaukee a year later

CF: Robin Yount (1985-1993). Came up when he was 18 and played more games (243) as teenager than anybody, and was the last active player to have been a teammate of Hank Aaron's

RF: Jeromy Burnitz (1996-2001). Truth be told, Burnitz never had anything like a great year; instead he was solid in each of his five seasons as a regular, balancing plenty of K's with plenty of homers

SP1: Teddy Higuera (1985-1994). The closest thing to a superstar pitcher in franchise history, Higuera went 69-83 in his first four seasons before injuries overwhelmed his career

SP2: Mike Caldwell (1977-1984). Joined Brewers after washing out of NL; in his first full season, spitballer went 22-9 with AL-best 23 complete games; in second led AL with .727 (16-6) winning percentage

SP3: Jim Slaton (1971-1977, 1979-1983). Evolved from staff workhorse - 5 straight years with 30 or more starts - to swing man. Pitched in 8 postseason games, posting 2.01 ERA in 13 innings

SP4: Bill Wegman (1985-1995). Pretty average pitcher whose control (2 walks per 9 innings) kept him from getting regularly waxed. Not to be confused with photographer who takes ironic dog photos [??????]

RP: Dan Plesac (1986-1992). Burst on the scene with 124 saves between '86 and '90. Got hurt and has mustered only 31 more as a setup guy over the next 11 years

Number 2

DH: Dave Parker (1990). His last full-time gig resulted in reasonably productive season (21-92-.289); other notable short-term occupants of DH slot include Aaron, Simmons and Hisle

C: Darrell Porter (1971-1976). The Brewers gave up on Porter's high OBP/occasional power after a bad year in '76; he eventually played a pivotal role in beating Miwaukee in the '82 Series

1B: George Scott (1972-1976). A big man with big power, he enjoyed his two best offensive seasons as a Brewer and he won a Gold Glove in each year he played in Milwaukee

2B: Fernando Vina (1995-1999). Everyone wants a claim to fame..., or, failing that, something else; Vina is the Brewers' all-time HBP leader with 58, beating Gantner's 52 and Yount's 48

SS: Jose Valentin (1992-1999). With Valentin, you had to take the good with the bad; in '96, he hit 24 homers and struck out 145 times, and showed good range at short but made 37 errors

3B: Jeff Cirillo (1994-1999). The Brewers have enjoyed run of good third basemen; Cirillo heads a list that includes Tommy Harper, Don Money, Sal Bando, Gary Sheffield, and Kevin Seitzer

LF: Johnny Briggs (1971-1975). Greg Vaughn's the obvious choice because of his long tenure, but Briggs, now mostly forgotten, posted the highest adjusted OPS for a career in franchise history

CF: Gorman Thomas (1973-1983, 1986). Tempting to mistake Thomas as a Dave Kingman-like, big homer/big K player, but he also drew a ton of walks, was solid with the glove, and a likeable guy

RF: Sixto Lezcano (1974-1980). Always left the party too early, playing for Brewers, Cards, and Padres the year before each made it to the postseason; outstanding throwing arm

SP1: Chris Bosio (1986-1992). Rarity among modern pitchers, as three times he posted a save and a shutout in the same season; thanks to lousy run support he twice lost as many as he won

SP2: Lary Sorensen (1977-1980). Among the zillion players included in the big Brewers/Cardinals trade; terrific control, and odd spelling of first name was tribute to Tigers pitcher Frank Lary

SP3: Moose Haas (1976-1985). Gritted out 91 wins with the Brewers. At 6'0" and 180 pounds, one of the more unlikely guys named "Moose" in the game, though he was an accomplished martial artist

SP4: Marty Pattin (1970-1971). Threw 5 shutouts in '71 when he, Slaton, and Bill Parsons combined for 13 (more than the Orioles' four 20-game winners totaled that year)

RP: Rollie Fingers (1981-1985). Milwaukee might have won the '82 World Series had Fingers not been hurt; missed '83 season due to injury, but came back to post 1.96 ERA in '84